elbows are killing me !

To answer some of the above questions..yes ..I am on cycle...and no this is not my 1st time....no winstrol though..just eq/test/and just finished 4th week of methanabol.I went to 5x5 at first of cycle..this is when I noticed the elbow pain..I am finished with 4 weeks of 5x5 I am going back to lighter wieghts and more reps and will go to failure..I have layed off triceps and biceps exercises for now..those were the one's that were causing me pain...I know the skull crushers were the culprit , I was doing them with 115 lbs when I normally use 75 -85 pounds..I only weight 171 lb.s.My elbow pain seems to be going away...
 
STEEDA69 said:
I think Most of us can relate to some extent, as to the sheer frustration this type of injury can cause! The very first responce to your question (greyowl) is probably the closest Dx and Tx protocol given thus far! "Tennis Elbow" does NOT imply that you must or DO play tennis! It's basically Tendonitis, but more specifically "Lateral epicondylitis." I won't go into the physiology of this injury but it can basically be detected by a very sore and tender elbow (outer portion). If however, your pain is directed more to the inner portion of the elbow (ante cubital fossa), you may have what is referred to as "golfers elbow" or "Medial epicondylitis." Only YOU can determine where your pain is, anatomically speaking! Again, I won't go into the physiology as such BUT many tricep exercises incorporate either pronation or supination of the wrist to some extent (ESPECIALLY SKULLS). This constant Flexion OR Extension of the forearm muscles, can cause either of the two conditions I mentioned! I would venture to say that it IS probably the first, as was mentioned above by greyowl. In any case, you DO need to seek the advice of a medical practioner BUT in the meantime, STOP working you upper body period, as was suggested above (greyowl)! Doing More warm up sets and/or using lighter weight for more reps is counterproductive and you will just be prolonging the inevitable as well as compounding your injury, not to mention the excess cortisol your body will produce to combat your injury. Unfortunately, the only way to completely recovery from this is to keep away from the weights and / or picking up / carrying anything which may aggravate your elbow further. In addition, Using the R.I.C.E. method (rest, ice, compression and elevation) is extremely helpful in reducing pain and swelling. Icing the elbow for 10-15 minutes at a time will decrease the inflammation and swelling and relieve pain. GOOD LUCK! Hey, you could probably do with a well deserved rest now anyway!!!
JD~


What you are saying to do is completely opposite of what the research shows...unless you have performed the latest research that no one has seen yet because it is so revolutionary. Open any text book...they will completely disagree with your statements. As far as your RICE method, I agree. But to totally stop all upper extremity work is wrong. How is he supposed to pick up a gallon of milk to pour his cereal? Hope the cow leaks milk out while his bowl is underneath her?

Also, how can you diagnose this guy when you have never looked at him...probably never treated an epicondylitis either?! If you did, then you would know that tendonitis is no longer a correct term...look up tendonopathy on the same website that you got your other "tendonitis" information and you will see that when they dissect cadavers the so called tendonitis never showed the inflammation that was supposed to be there upon original diagnosis. Also look up tenosynovitis and get back to me.

Good Luck SteedA
 
greyowl said:
What's a 45 degree french press. I know what a french press is ... position a bar above your head and press up and down ... but not 45 degrees.

If you think of a skull crusher, where you arms are at a 90 degree angle to the body and then you move them so that they are at a 45 degree angle, that's what it is. I hope that made sense.

I found the exercise in FLEX years and years ago. I rather like it.
 
greyowl said:
What's a 45 degree french press. I know what a french press is ... position a bar above your head and press up and down ... but not 45 degrees.

You're at a 45 degree incline on a bench...then make the pressing motion
 
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