Enanthate/Tren cycle

[KTCKSports]

Hey gentlemen,

I hope y'all are having a fine day. I have never tried tren before but was considering trying it. I think I am going to try 2 different 2 week cycles and see how it goes.

If anyone has an opinion with these two stacked together I would appreciate it. Or any comments on Tren would be appreciated as well. I heard it is good for keeping gains because of its low water retention.

Have a nice day
K-

 

[PHit41]

I think I am going to try 2 different 2 week cycles and see how it goes.



K-

what do you mean 2 week cycles. Even if you are using test prop and tren acetate you will just begin to make great gains. Why would you stop after only 2 weeks. I would recommend no less than 8 weeks min.

 

[joe shmoe]

side effects i noticed while on 75mg/ED of tren acetate:

1) first week or 2 felt tired and sleepy, but strength was going up.
2) "rage" was apparent. not uncontrollable, but a definate increase in aggression. this is what separates the AAS user from the jack-ass that just shoots juice....controlling the anger/aggression. if it gets a bit too much for you, then drop it to 50mg/ED.
3) after the first week or 2 of tiredness had passed, i had slight problems sleeping. also, felt "warm" all day long.
4) not so much a side effect, but something to remember....your strength will increase so much so fast, you need to control how much weight you're putting on the bar so as not to hurt yourself/rip something.

to quote someone from the old board, and i whole heartedly agree with this statement: "when on tren, i sometimes felt like throwing cars around.".
yes, its THAT good. i love tren. i really love it. i really really do.

please read #2 again and again. this is very important. you need to keep reminding yourself that its the tren causing you the anger...not a person. my friend, phil burmese1 of this board, only used it for 4-5 days before stopping. too much for the guy. he didnt like the aggression. now i'm not trying to scare you away from tren...i really do love it and will be using it again soon, but i just feel compelled to let you know of the added aggression.

i'm sure you'll like it too.

have a nice day

 

[KTCKSports]

Joe,

Wow, I had no idea it was that good for increasing strength. Do you think that it is a substitute for EQ?

Currently like I said my current cycle is Enanthate, EQ and a few weeks of Anadrol. Can you run Tren for a short time during the cycle, for instance when I get off the A-bombs?

Have a nice day
K-

side effects i noticed while on 75mg/ED of tren acetate:

1) first week or 2 felt tired and sleepy, but strength was going up.
2) "rage" was apparent. not uncontrollable, but a definate increase in aggression. this is what separates the AAS user from the jack-ass that just shoots juice....controlling the anger/aggression. if it gets a bit too much for you, then drop it to 50mg/ED.
3) after the first week or 2 of tiredness had passed, i had slight problems sleeping. also, felt "warm" all day long.
4) not so much a side effect, but something to remember....your strength will increase so much so fast, you need to control how much weight you're putting on the bar so as not to hurt yourself/rip something.

to quote someone from the old board, and i whole heartedly agree with this statement: "when on tren, i sometimes felt like throwing cars around.".
yes, its THAT good. i love tren. i really love it. i really really do.

please read #2 again and again. this is very important. you need to keep reminding yourself that its the tren causing you the anger...not a person. my friend, phil burmese1 of this board, only used it for 4-5 days before stopping. too much for the guy. he didnt like the aggression. now i'm not trying to scare you away from tren...i really do love it and will be using it again soon, but i just feel compelled to let you know of the added aggression.

i'm sure you'll like it too.

have a nice day

 

[atlmo]

Joe,

Wow, I had no idea it was that good for increasing strength. Do you think that it is a substitute for EQ?

Currently like I said my current cycle is Enanthate, EQ and a few weeks of Anadrol. Can you run Tren for a short time during the cycle, for instance when I get off the A-bombs?

Have a nice day
K-

I dont know if I would call it a substitute but I would replace EQ with Tren any day of the week for strength.

ON the other topic, tren has not affect on agression in me. So just know that it doesnt neccesarilly happen to everyone.

 

[graybass]

Tren

Tren is the strongest strength gaining drug in the world, bar none!
When I added Tren enanthate to my last cycle, (and only the last 6 weeks of 12) my strength went up so dramatically that I slightly tore my biceps at the pec bicep tie in area. It turned all kinds of nasty colors. (Very minor though, healed in 2 weeks) I felt like it was a message from God to slow down on the weight training gains. So I eased off on the poundages for a while!
So it's really important you don't get carried away. I never did gear before that made me grow too fast!!!! (Twenty years of cycles)
I all ready got more for my next cycle.

 

[Neodavid]

20 years of cycles? Holy CRAP man!

Thanks for giving me advice when I first came to the board, it was rock solid, and I'm using it.

Now I'm going to have to try some Tren...

Tren is the strongest strength gaining drug in the world, bar none!
When I added Tren enanthate to my last cycle, (and only the last 6 weeks of 12) my strength went up so dramatically that I slightly tore my biceps at the pec bicep tie in area. It turned all kinds of nasty colors. (Very minor though, healed in 2 weeks) I felt like it was a message from God to slow down on the weight training gains. So I eased off on the poundages for a while!
So it's really important you don't get carried away. I never did gear before that made me grow too fast!!!! (Twenty years of cycles)
I all ready got more for my next cycle.

 

[KTCKSports]

Is there excessive water retention? How are the ability to keep the gains and strength increases when off the cycle?

What have y'all stacked it with and how much for how long? To give you an idea, Im 5'10 200. Currently running 750 mg Enanthate and 450 mg EQ.

 

[joe shmoe]

KTCK...as mo said, its not a substitute for EQ. just like deca isnt one for test. you could add tren in anywhere, on just about any cycle. mo brought out a good point about the aggression. its just from everything i've read, and mine and my buddys personal experience, aggression is definately there. thats why i was such a pain in the ass in warning you about it.

excessive water retention? i'd say almost zero water retention. keeping strength gains will be hard...atleast it was for me. size wise, you dont get as much as from test or EQ. tren is mostly for strength and some good lean/clean muscle.

i used it with prop...100mg/ED prop and 75mg/ED tren. ran it for about 14-16 weeks. i didnt have any tests run, but i never felt anything bad was happening to me. while shooting the acetate ED was a bitch for that long, it'd be easier with the enanthate version. through it in on your current cycle if you want.

as i said before...i love the cattle juice (get your mind out of the gutter! i mean the tren, not cattle sperm ).

have a nice day

 

[Pablo34]

I read Joe's post and he said he lost most of his strength gains after getting off Tren. Has anyone else had this problem? I am thinking about taking tren enanthate with some type of testosterone next cycle, but I don't just wanna be strong for the 12 weeks i'm "on"; I want some sort of permanent base of strength increase as well.

 

[jlanders]

Hey guys,
I am 4 weeks into a 12 week cycle of 600 mgs. test cyp. per week..added 60 mgs tren ac, ED 8 days ago, I cannot believe how strong I am getting. My lifts in the gym go up every work out ! and my sex drive has skyrocketed, i get wood when the wind blows ! This may be the fact the Test has really kicked in but I believe the Tren has helped as well. i have noticed some mild aggrestion but its not that bad.
Do the Tren you will love it.

 

[KTCKSports]

This Tren sounds great. My concern is what you lose in both size and strength post cycle and if you can run it effectively for 4 weeks max on the back-end of the cycle.

 

[Deacon]

I am currently on a test cyp - tren enth - EQ cycle

the strength is going up every day - I am putting on lean mass - I gained 14 pounds while leaning out so my abs can be seen easily - there is no bloat and I feel excellent - a bit of a short temper but nothing out of control.

I would suggest this cycle to anyone looking for strength and lean mass gains.

But I would suggest you combine test prop with tren acetate and if using tren enth a longer ester test like cyp or enth.

Plus you can run EQ in there if you want.

 

[BigDrip]

Finaplix and Propionate was one of my favorite cycles. I had great gains, but horrible night sweats.

 

[Pablo34]

I read Joe's post and he said he lost most of his strength gains after getting off Tren. Has anyone else had this problem? I am thinking about taking tren enanthate with some type of testosterone next cycle, but I don't just wanna be strong for the 12 weeks i'm "on"; I want some sort of permanent base of strength increase as well.

ANYONE?