Endurance Athlete and roids

Shmegaly

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Hello,

I am a endurance athlete (cycling and running) and I work full time (phsyical work) and i am fatiqued with all this work. I want to run and cycle more but with all this work i can only do so much. Im looking for something that will help in faster recovery, strength, and possible a red cell blood booster. I have only been doing research for a few days and I have a lot more to do. I thought this would be a great place to start and get your guys opinion. Maybe roids arent the answer, maybe HGH?
 
Hello,

I am a endurance athlete (cycling and running) and I work full time (phsyical work) and i am fatiqued with all this work. I want to run and cycle more but with all this work i can only do so much. Im looking for something that will help in faster recovery, strength, and possible a red cell blood booster. I have only been doing research for a few days and I have a lot more to do. I thought this would be a great place to start and get your guys opinion. Maybe roids arent the answer, maybe HGH?

Yes HGH and EQ would be your top 2 choices.
EQ is what they give race horses.
Equipoise
(boldenone undecylenate)



Equipoise was actually created while attempting to make a product which would be be a long acting injectable d-bol (Methandrostenolone). What was actually created was a product which, in the real world acts nothing like D-bol, despite its similarity to it chemically. A simple way to think of Equipoise, chemically at least, is simply as Dianabol without the 17-alpha-methyl group (thats the thing which makes D-bol able to be ingested orally and not be destroyed by your liver). However, having had first hand experience with both Equipoise as well as D-bol, I can tell you that the results from each are vastly different.

To make Equipoise, a double bond was added between carbon atoms 1 and 2 of the Steran Nucleus of Testosterone. What does this mean? Well, first of all, since Equipoise was created by one simple modification in the testosterone molecule, you could rightly suspect that it shares many similarities with it. Equipoise is just as anabolic as testosterone (as you can tell by its anabolic rating above), but only half as androgenic. Those ratings can be quite deceiving though, as I dont know anyone who would claim that you can gain as much weight on Equipoise as you can gain on an equal amount of testosterone (even though strength gains from the two compounds are very similar).

Its not very common to compare Equipoise to testosterone; however& a far more common comparison is between Equipoise and Deca. I suspect this is because when Dan Duchaine introduced this compound to the steroid using community, he made an immediate comparison to Deca, speculating that it would act similarly to Deca but like a much stronger version of it. Equipoise doesnt actually act much like deca at all; Deca is actually a progestin and a 19-nor derived steroid whereas Equipoise is more closely related to testosterone (being only one double bond differ rent). Duchaine later rescinded his original statement on Equipoise and said that it was disappointing as a mass builder when compared with deca, but a far better drug than for both strength gains and vascularity. Unfortunately, the myth that Equipoises action is similar to Decas has persisted for nearly 2 decades after he revised his opinion; this is most evident on internet message boards today, where many will advise against including both of them in a cycle because "they act the same way."

The 1-2 double bond that Equipoise has is responsible for many of its characteristics. First of all, it acts to slow aromatization (conversion into estrogen). The best estimate is that it does so at roughly half the rate of testosterone (1). This is the best number Ive found in studies. Athletes almost never report estrogenic side effects with Equipoise, even when the dose is up to a gram per week. Side effects caused by estrogen include oily skin, acne, and gynocomastia, and as I said, those are usually not found from Equipoise. Virilization (development of male sexual characteristics in women) is almost never seen with this compound, when reasonable doses are used by female athletes. This is one of the few injectable compounds which could be successfully be used by female athletes and bodybuilders, and isnt often faked.
Clinical Equipoise and Athletes

That double bond is also responsible for Equipoises resistance for being changed by the 5- 5-Alpha-reductase enzyme (2)(3). This enzyme converts a small amount of Boldenone into Dihydroboldenone, which is a very potent androgen (7x as anabolic as testosterone)(4). As I said though, such a small amount of it is converted that its really of no concern to most athletes taking Equipoise. This factor, plus its low aromatization rate mean athletes dont need to consider using ancillaries with Equipoise.

Athletes taking Equipoise often report a slow and constant buildup of quality muscle, and certainly this has been my experience with the drug. I would speculate that this slow buildup of muscle is due to the very long ester attached to the Boldenone; Undeclynate is a longer ester than the decanoate ester by one carbon. Thus, we could expect the accumulation of muscle from Equipoise to actually occur at a slightly slower rate than that found with Deca (nandrolone decanoate). This leads me to advise that if you are considering the use of Equipoise, you should consider using it for no less than 12 weeks. Equipoise, like deca, is also detectable in your system for a long time (although it is substantially less than decas detection time).

Strangely, shorter estered versions of Boldenone are available as well. Anecdotally, many people (and manufacturers) claim that this produces less water retention...but water retention from Equipoise is virtually unheard of, so I consider this to be a silly idea.

An informal poll I took on Steroid.com (as well as with my friends) seems to put the ideal dose of Equipoise at 600mgs/week. Most people I asked about their Equipoise experience with Equipoise seemed to think that using over 600mgs/week produced no additional results, but the jump from 400mgs/week to 600mgs/week produced noticeable additional gains, and thus was warranted. I have personally found very nice results from 400mgs-600mgs/week myself.
Equipoise Side Effects

One of the most pronounced effects in Equipoise is its ability to raise your RBCs (red blood cells). This is very typical of anabolic steroids; however, Equipoise would appear to do it to a slightly greater degree than most. One of the other effects most Equipoise users report is an increased appetite. I can say that this is true of me, also; this factor makes it impossible for me to diet on it. Its because of this ability to increase appetite that many will include Equipoise in a mass cycle, and its for the quality of muscle gained on it that many will include it in a cutting cycle. Its probably the most versatile injectable compound, next to testosterone. People even use a low dosed version of Equipoise to blend with irritating injectable drugs suck as testosterone suspension or Propionate. Im thinking of the old Ganabol version which was dosed at 50mgs/ml, here... its not that Equipoise is especially good to cut other steroids with, but the low dose and cost of Ganabol made it ideal to do this with, when sterile oil wasnt available or desirable. This low dosed version was also very popular with women, who were comfortable shooting 1cc of this stuff every few days or every week.

Equipoise will cause a suppression of your hormones, such as endogenous testosterone, so I would also recommend using injectable testosterone in any cycle containing it. Failure to do so could result in possible sexual dysfunction and other sides.
 
Thanks for the info, but you said you should take Test with endogenous, to avoid side effects. But it sounds like the reason to take endogenous is to avoid taking deca and test. What if I was to take Oxantrione with HGH? does Oxantrione have any good effects buy it self? Again im not looking to get bigger, im looking for strength and recovery.

Does a higher RBC help increase oxygen to the muscles? Isnt your hematacrit and hemoglobin that would increase oxygen flow?
 
I love eq. I personally rank it 3rd on my favorites next to Test being first ofcourse and Tren being the second. Had some of my best results with eq. Yes it gives a boost in your cardio.
 
carlos do you rank tren 2nd for it's fast strength and size building attributes? My understanding is that it destroys your cardio at anything above a very low dose.
 
I would try lose dosages of Anavar. First low dose Anavar wil not shut down your bodies natural test production and it is not going to make you look like you are taking steroids. I would try 5mg of Anavar twice a day. Keep in mind guys this guy is an endurance athlete not a body builder so we have to keep him looking like an endurance athlete or people will suspect he is on something! Most AAS's increase re blood cell count. I know all the AAS's that Ihave used for injection have all boostedmy RBC I do not know if Anavar will but I can not see why it would not just not as much as Test or Deca or Tren etc.......

Anavar in the dose I am recomending will allow your body to keep making it's own test and your testicles will not shrink and your sperm output should actualy increase not decrease as is the case with a heavy steroid cycle.

I think the HGH and Anavar would be a great combo. If you can not afford the HGH that is fine it is not needed but it sure does wounders for all athletes endurance or other wise when mixed with any AAS! Unlike most oral steroids Anavar can be taken for much longer periods with out liver enzyme issues especialy at the dose I am recomending. Also when you come off at that low dose you will not need to do or take anything special because your body is still makeing it's own test. In fact you could even start at just 5mg a day and see if that is all you need. The less you need to take to get the boost in performance the longer you can take it and easier it is to stop staking it.

SInce youa re an endurance athlete I would take 5-10 grams of ribose twice daily once upon waking up and once some time dureing the day like after work. I would add a good mineral supplement in capsule form so you know it will break down and digest. Most endurance athletes are low on calcium,magnesium,zink,iron b6 and vitamin c as in cronicly so take these as well.

Anavar only stays inthe body 4-6 hours at a time which is why it is recomended you take it more then once a day in divided doses. This is both good and bad if you need to come off and get clean for any reason it does not take long before you can pass any steroid drug test. Things like Deca can be detected up to 4 years after you stop depending on how much of it get's into your fat deposits. You could easily stop a week before an athletic drug test and pee clean and no employer except for the Military test's for steroids because it is so expensive like $300-$500 per-person to test for steroids! If you have a good source and can afford it I would do Anavar for the entire athletic season that I was going to be active so if that was all of summer i would stay on all summer. I would do it 6weeks at my optimum dose then 6 weeks at a low dose and then 6 weeks at thehigher dose and so on. So start at 5mg divided into two daily dose's and work up fromt heir. Stop as soon as you hit the dose that works takeing more will not help you much in the long run not given your goals. Take that higher dose for 6 weeks then take 1/2 that amount for 6 weeks and cycle like that. You could easily take Anavar almost year round like this with out screwing up your body that much! It is when you get to 20mg-40mg a day that you need to exercise some caution because you will number one shut down your bodies own test production and start to get into liver toxicity issues etc.....
 
Hello,

I am a endurance athlete (cycling and running) and I work full time (phsyical work) and i am fatiqued with all this work. I want to run and cycle more but with all this work i can only do so much. Im looking for something that will help in faster recovery, strength, and possible a red cell blood booster. I have only been doing research for a few days and I have a lot more to do. I thought this would be a great place to start and get your guys opinion. Maybe roids arent the answer, maybe HGH?
Cardarine
 
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