What are they?
What do they do?
What do they do?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
EO / Guaiacol
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theotherguy
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I have never used them, but to the best of my knowledge they’re solvents that also act as a carrier oil. They help you to make higher concentration gear than would be normally allowed with BA/BB/(insert traditional carrier oil here) without crashing. Apparently they can cause quite a bit of PIP
Habib
Banned
"Apparently" you half you amount of GSO and replace it with EO for reduced PIP
From my experience and understanding I believe Ethyl Oleate is just another possible carrier vs something like GSO. Now the benefits of EO is it is very thin, it is also supposed to help with PIP. It also helps hold higher concentrations and sometimes it just helps to hold the harder brewing compounds. It is actually something that is either produced or occurs in our muscles when we consume alcohol.
Now guaiacol is known as a "super solvent." It helps us hold those harder compounds like winstrol in oil. It SMELLS and I swear I smell different when the current brew that I am running contains it.
I have used both obviously, so if you have any specific questions let's hear them.
Now guaiacol is known as a "super solvent." It helps us hold those harder compounds like winstrol in oil. It SMELLS and I swear I smell different when the current brew that I am running contains it.
I have used both obviously, so if you have any specific questions let's hear them.
Habib
Banned
Does guaiacol reduce PIP?
How many ml do I add to 50ml?
How many ml do I add to 50ml?
It's known as poison to me.
barbell001
Well-known Member
Unfortunately Guaiacol is now being used by a lot of Labs to suspend orals to make them Injectable such as Dbol, Adrol, Halo etc. Some of the better labs still use normal grape seed but I suspect Guaiacol is cheap to buy and does the job better - However it is Toxic to the human body. In what amounts I am not sure but if anyone wants to debate this then have a read of this:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
The smell of it is unmistakeable and you will know if your compound is in it, its kind of a clinical hospital smell and if it goes in blood its similar to trenbolone in that it burns the back of your throat out and makes you want to gag. Been there many a time lol
Acute toxicity of guaiacol administered subcutaneously in the mouse - PubMed
Guaiacol is a compound used as expectorant. In Mexico City, this product is being illegally used for aesthetic treatment with fatal results. The aim of this study is to confirm the lethal toxicity documented in humans. Male Swiss Webster mice (CFW) 30-45g were employed. Dose-response curves to...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
The smell of it is unmistakeable and you will know if your compound is in it, its kind of a clinical hospital smell and if it goes in blood its similar to trenbolone in that it burns the back of your throat out and makes you want to gag. Been there many a time lol
barbell001
Well-known Member
Absolutely not - It makes it much worse.
Guaiacol is actually VERY expensive compared to other common ingredients/carriers/organic solvents. I agree they definitely are using it for those orals we now see as injectable. I don't know if I have had any adverse reaction to it but I am not a doctor so maybe something I didn't catch was actually going on and hurting me.Unfortunately Guaiacol is now being used by a lot of Labs to suspend orals to make them Injectable such as Dbol, Adrol, Halo etc. Some of the better labs still use normal grape seed but I suspect Guaiacol is cheap to buy and does the job better - However it is Toxic to the human body. In what amounts I am not sure but if anyone wants to debate this then have a read of this:
Acute toxicity of guaiacol administered subcutaneously in the mouse - PubMed
Guaiacol is a compound used as expectorant. In Mexico City, this product is being illegally used for aesthetic treatment with fatal results. The aim of this study is to confirm the lethal toxicity documented in humans. Male Swiss Webster mice (CFW) 30-45g were employed. Dose-response curves to...
The smell of it is unmistakeable and you will know if your compound is in it, its kind of a clinical hospital smell and if it goes in blood its similar to trenbolone in that it burns the back of your throat out and makes you want to gag. Been there many a time lol
Really the thing most labs use is the ethyl Oleate and they use it as a carrier. It is known to cause issues with some guys but I think this is blown out of proportion. As I have stated in the last ethyl Oleate is actually produced or occurs in our bodies when we digest/process alcohol. I met a guy who was a former high volume producer of AAS. He told me he too use to resist EO until a friend told him to pin a ML of pure EO and see what happened.....well he did and nothing happened, no inflammation, no cramps, no crazy swelling. To be honest I should be willing to test guaiacol like this myself as I say it has never done me wrong, yet that smell makes me say NOPE, no thanks. I will pass. But I will still use it in my brews when I think I NEED it.
It can sting when inject.
Do you think if you don't feel some negative effects it won't be harmful?
Don't forget some human grade manufacturer use eo in his product as a carrier.
barbell001
Well-known Member
Yeh buddy its like a strong tangy clinical smell, like a cleaning agent. Often it is so strong that when you open your gear package the smell bursts out of it even though the vial is still sealed and has the cap on!!! Can pretty much always taste the smell too when you inject it. Its not like that musty smell that is similar to the trenbolone smell.
