EQ as an older feller

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Hopefully someone has experienced this or knows something about it but long story short I have not used EQ in at least 8 years and was looking back at some old pics of myself recently and noticed how amazing my skin looked on EQ and reminisced about how amazing I recall that EQ made my skin, hair and nails. I started gears almost 16 years ago and after a few Test only cycles EQ was the first anabolic I added on blast. Every time I ran it I kept EQ between 600mg and 800mg because 15 years ago the consensus was it needed to be ran at that dosage to see any actual results. So usually it was 800mgs along with Test and whatever else I was blasting.

After about 4-5 blasts over 5 years with EQ I started getting oddly paranoid. Like super paranoid over stupid shit. Once I had eliminated everything else and pinpointed EQ as the culprit I dropped it and swore off the stuff. Stayed off of it for a decade but for some strange reason I decided I would try it again recently. Mainly for the skin gains. Decided to keep it in the 450-500mg range. No other anabolics yet other than plain Testosterone. Was gonna add Ment and Anavar eventually once the EQ had time to reach peak blood serum levels. Made it 2.5 weeks of EQ around 475mgs/week. That is when the craziness started happening. Well actually it started around day 13 and has steadily gotten worse the last 5-6 days.

So what is happening is I will just start getting cold and sweating through my clothes severely. Like soaking wet clothes, chill bumps and shaking like mad while under a fleece blanket and huddled around a space heater on high. It appears to be happening more often and slightly more severely each time as what I imagine is just the EQ climbing to peak saturation. It hasn’t even been a full a 3 weeks yet but very close. Symptoms are increasing daily. Usually it only happens once a day but happened twice in the last 24 hours. Usually lasts about 4-5 hours before my internal temps regulate themselves.

This is something I never experienced years ago on any of my times on EQ. Also never even heard of this as a possible side effect. So I guess my question is: Have you heard of this happening to anyone before? Ever happened to you? What is the mechanism of action or easier put…what the hell is going on inside my body?

I’m getting blood drawn in a couple weeks. I can’t have it done any sooner. I guess I’m dropping the EQ today because I can’t have this continuing to happen and by a series of eliminations I am almost fairly certain it’s the EQ and just something that has changed with my age and how I now respond to EQ. Still seems really odd though.

Also, I don’t feel sick or anything. And I’m totally fine when not soaking wet and freezing. The only other side effect I have noticed is some mild anxiety which I kinda expected. Guess I’ll go back to my beloved Masteron soon. But still, anyone ever heard of such a thing from EQ?
 
I’ve heard of EQ effecting GABA levels - hence people say they get more anxious on it. I don’t know to what degree or if it’s just false anecdotes from people that spread like wildfire. I’ve never had an issue personally or know people IRL that have had issues.

Eliminate the EQ and see if issues still persist and go from there.
 
Hopefully someone has experienced this or knows something about it but long story short I have not used EQ in at least 8 years and was looking back at some old pics of myself recently and noticed how amazing my skin looked on EQ and reminisced about how amazing I recall that EQ made my skin, hair and nails. I started gears almost 16 years ago and after a few Test only cycles EQ was the first anabolic I added on blast. Every time I ran it I kept EQ between 600mg and 800mg because 15 years ago the consensus was it needed to be ran at that dosage to see any actual results. So usually it was 800mgs along with Test and whatever else I was blasting.

After about 4-5 blasts over 5 years with EQ I started getting oddly paranoid. Like super paranoid over stupid shit. Once I had eliminated everything else and pinpointed EQ as the culprit I dropped it and swore off the stuff. Stayed off of it for a decade but for some strange reason I decided I would try it again recently. Mainly for the skin gains. Decided to keep it in the 450-500mg range. No other anabolics yet other than plain Testosterone. Was gonna add Ment and Anavar eventually once the EQ had time to reach peak blood serum levels. Made it 2.5 weeks of EQ around 475mgs/week. That is when the craziness started happening. Well actually it started around day 13 and has steadily gotten worse the last 5-6 days.

So what is happening is I will just start getting cold and sweating through my clothes severely. Like soaking wet clothes, chill bumps and shaking like mad while under a fleece blanket and huddled around a space heater on high. It appears to be happening more often and slightly more severely each time as what I imagine is just the EQ climbing to peak saturation. It hasn’t even been a full a 3 weeks yet but very close. Symptoms are increasing daily. Usually it only happens once a day but happened twice in the last 24 hours. Usually lasts about 4-5 hours before my internal temps regulate themselves.

This is something I never experienced years ago on any of my times on EQ. Also never even heard of this as a possible side effect. So I guess my question is: Have you heard of this happening to anyone before? Ever happened to you? What is the mechanism of action or easier put…what the hell is going on inside my body?

I’m getting blood drawn in a couple weeks. I can’t have it done any sooner. I guess I’m dropping the EQ today because I can’t have this continuing to happen and by a series of eliminations I am almost fairly certain it’s the EQ and just something that has changed with my age and how I now respond to EQ. Still seems really odd though.

Also, I don’t feel sick or anything. And I’m totally fine when not soaking wet and freezing. The only other side effect I have noticed is some mild anxiety which I kinda expected. Guess I’ll go back to my beloved Masteron soon. But still, anyone ever heard of such a thing from EQ?
Try adding the ment in. Test/ment/EQ has been my favorite stack so far but running just test/EQ I seem to not be able to keep E2 optimal for long cycles. I front load so it isn’t so much the long ester. I get the anxiety mostly at night.

Also check ultra sensitive E2 and E1.
 
Try adding the ment in. Test/ment/EQ has been my favorite stack so far but running just test/EQ I seem to not be able to keep E2 optimal for long cycles. I front load so it isn’t so much the long ester. I get the anxiety mostly at night.

Also check ultra sensitive E2 and E1.
That’s what I was attempting to do. But I can’t spend 4-6 hours a day soaking my clothes in front of heater anymore waiting. Just not feasible with my schedule.
 
Is it possible this has affected your estrogen levels, excessively?
Eh, perhaps but idk. I know EQ will do funky stuff with E2 and estrone as well as affect aromatization from test. But I have never had chills/sweats from E2 fluctuations before. I guess it’s possible though.
 
I’ve heard of EQ effecting GABA levels - hence people say they get more anxious on it. I don’t know to what degree or if it’s just false anecdotes from people that spread like wildfire. I’ve never had an issue personally or know people IRL that have had issues.

Eliminate the EQ and see if issues still persist and go from there.
Interesting on the GABA. I’m very prone to noticing things that affect gaba A and B receptors.

Yeah I’m gonna have to drop the EQ unfortunately. Sucks getting older and not being indestructible anymore.
 
That’s what I was attempting to do. But I can’t spend 4-6 hours a day soaking my clothes in front of heater anymore waiting. Just not feasible with my schedule.
Do you have experience with ment?

I would get you estrogen checked now then stop the EQ. You can see how you are converting between E2 and E1. Then if you really ant to make it work, add EQ back in when you have been running ment. If you don’t have experience with ment, forget what I just said. Definitely do bloodwork before you stop EQ so that you can get an idea of what is going on.
 
Do you have experience with ment?

I would get you estrogen checked now then stop the EQ. You can see how you are converting between E2 and E1. Then if you really ant to make it work, add EQ back in when you have been running ment. If you don’t have experience with ment, forget what I just said. Definitely do bloodwork before you stop EQ so that you can get an idea of what is going on.
Yeah I am experienced with Ment. I actually used it standalone for HRT in low doses for several months. I have also used it on blast before.

I can’t get bloods for a few weeks but honestly I don’t feel the dreaded sides of low E2. Not yet at least. And doubt I will if dropping the EQ today. I just can’t figure out why it’s causing flu like fever/chills every damn day for 4-5 hours. It’s incredibly inconvenient lol
 
Yeah I am experienced with Ment. I actually used it standalone for HRT in low doses for several months. I have also used it on blast before.

I can’t get bloods for a few weeks but honestly I don’t feel the dreaded sides of low E2. Not yet at least. And doubt I will if dropping the EQ today. I just can’t figure out why it’s causing flu like fever/chills every damn day for 4-5 hours. It’s incredibly inconvenient lol
I was just thinking you could get some information before dropping it but I don’t blame you two weeks is a long time.

For me the low E2 sides from EQ are different. I assume it’s because the E1 is filling some functions. For example, I could basically take or leave sex but everything works like it should. I don’t let it get too far. That article really helped me out to try and manage it.
 
Join the club, lol

I agree with you and think OP's issues are down to estrogen
I hope that’s all. If so, kinda tempted to up the test and add the Ment asap. But idk yet

I would lower test again as the Ment started saturation. I want to use the Enanthate ester of Ment
 
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