Equipoise "starting to work"?

[Zircon]

I am a little bit confused when some ppl on the board say that the EQ is starting to work...

1. How do they know it is starting to work (strength increase/appetite/vascularity?

2. How do they know it's not test or some other substance it is stacked with? I know everybody here def stacks eq with something else...

 

[esco]

for me with eq ... i knew it was the eq, cause i didnt stat feeling it til like almost 7 weeks ... my appetite was crazy, strength was up and i my muscles were tighter/harder.

 

[Data1000]

For me, I knew the EQ was kicking in because of the crazy appetite. Test alone never caused me to be hungry every hour.

 

[fastshadow]

i know its working cause i start getting aggrevated really easily, test doesnt really do that to me. just EQ

 

[Snowblind]

I usually start to notice in week 5-6. I will do a fairly heavy frontload......appetite is unreal, hunger pains, etc. Seems I'm always hungry when normally I'm not a big eater. Vascularity happens more towards the end of a cycle for some reason...not sure why exactly, but I use EQ in every cycle. I love the stuff.

 

[bigkb]

My appetite becomes nothing short of ferocious around the 5th or 6th week of EQ. I mean, I can eat a meal, and literally an hour later I am hungry as hell again. That is one awesome drug. And the combination of EQ and Dbol is just plain incredible for me. I never do a cycle without both of those included, and never will.

Also, the pumps are consistently increasing around that same time, with more vascularity. Oftentimes, I have to hold my arms up in the air at the gym to help the blood drain back out of them, because it feels like my veins are going to bust in my forearms.... awesome drug indeed. I love it.

KB

 

[Zircon]

At the mo I'm running it only at 250 a week, it's pretty expensive where I get it from, much more so thatn test If I could I'd def frontload at 800 and run at 5-600...but I also have the pesky 50mg/ml version (veterinary).

I am a track cyclist mostly interested in quality gains and power...would running the EQ alone at 500 be better than running eq at 250 a week for 13 weeks + 250mg test a week?

I am also from South Africa - mods whom can I contact for buying EQ? thanks

 

[a_free_man]

I would certainly not recommend running EQ alone.

 

[bigkb]

At the mo I'm running it only at 250 a week, it's pretty expensive where I get it from, much more so thatn test If I could I'd def frontload at 800 and run at 5-600...but I also have the pesky 50mg/ml version (veterinary).

I am a track cyclist mostly interested in quality gains and power...would running the EQ alone at 500 be better than running eq at 250 a week for 13 weeks + 250mg test a week?

I am also from South Africa - mods whom can I contact for buying EQ? thanks

Check the classifieds... there are several good sources for EQ.

KB

 

[Zircon]

Classifieds? Dumb q but on the net? Any links?

Thanks

 

[Southernjuice]

I know it's working when i snap for the first time EQ is the only gear that seems to fuck with my mood, i go off at the drop of a hat.

 

[Carlito]

I am doing an EQ only cycle 600mg per week --12 weeks!

Yeah no test! I did this to see how EQ would work , is working well it takes time though and the gains are nice lean solid muscle and hard, I am on week#10 and just started to noticed more vascularity. I am very hungry also, my nuts have not shrunk, I am still horny as a rabbit, no acne anywhere! no bloat I love the stuff!
The only thing I noticed is that my BP has increased a bit, sometimes I run out breath easily.
I will do a 4 week PCT using nolva , clomid, T3 and Clen+ECA. I just not sure in which order this PCT should go, first T3,Clen and ECA and then Clomid/Nolva or vise versa.
Strength is good not as good as with Test though, what I like the most is that there is not fat and water gain and no acne. EQ Rocks!!!

 

[bigkb]

Classifieds? Dumb q but on the net? Any links?

Thanks

It's one of the forums here on Meso.

KB

 

[Zircon]

Thanks KB will look up now!

Carlito! yup this sounds the perfect steroid for me, I am running 125mg sust every 3 days with it though...as I said only running 125mg EQ every 3 days as well, but as it;'s my first time, may very well work.

How much have you gained on this cycle? Only EQ? How much more are you pressing in the gym?

FOr out of breathness...sounds odd...I know it ups EPO in your body -> increased RBC -> thicker blood, so be careful...it might be an idea to take half aspirin every day to thin the blood?

If this #$@ stuff just wouldn't stay so long for drug tests would be ideal! Are there any plans for a faster acting version, which in turn might be out of your system earlier?

 

[Southernjuice]

Thanks KB will look up now!

Carlito! yup this sounds the perfect steroid for me, I am running 125mg sust every 3 days with it though...as I said only running 125mg EQ every 3 days as well, but as it;'s my first time, may very well work.

How much have you gained on this cycle? Only EQ? How much more are you pressing in the gym?

FOr out of breathness...sounds odd...I know it ups EPO in your body -> increased RBC -> thicker blood, so be careful...it might be an idea to take half aspirin every day to thin the blood?

If this #$@ stuff just wouldn't stay so long for drug tests would be ideal! Are there any plans for a faster acting version, which in turn might be out of your system earlier?

Increase in RBC=HTN....watch b/p

 

[a_free_man]

I am doing an EQ only cycle 600mg per week --12 weeks!

Yeah no test! I did this to see how EQ would work , is working well it takes time though and the gains are nice lean solid muscle and hard, I am on week#10 and just started to noticed more vascularity. I am very hungry also, my nuts have not shrunk, I am still horny as a rabbit, no acne anywhere! no bloat I love the stuff!
The only thing I noticed is that my BP has increased a bit, sometimes I run out breath easily.
I will do a 4 week PCT using nolva , clomid, T3 and Clen+ECA. I just not sure in which order this PCT should go, first T3,Clen and ECA and then Clomid/Nolva or vise versa.
Strength is good not as good as with Test though, what I like the most is that there is not fat and water gain and no acne. EQ Rocks!!!

Let me know how this goes. I'd be curious to see how your body handles it over the entire cycle (including pct).

 

[Carlito]

Well bros, I did my research before starting this cycle just like any other cycle I've done before, I know test must be included in every cycle and always a little bit over whatever other drug is being stacked with, but I wanted to do things different this time and against all odds I decided to go fo it...EQ only cycle!!!

After my last cycle (test E only 600mg/week) I was at 205lbs, now my stats were 5'5 so I am shorty,Lol. Like Lee Priest ya know...anyways I gained strength and mass along with some acne and fat gain even though I did cardio and ate clean, the majority of the time. I love Test it gives you that well being feling no other drug can give. I had no gyno since I took L-dex all thru my cycle .50mg ED. After my Pct I went down to 195Lbs. Ok, here is the tricky part currently I am at 189Lbs and my muscle are full ( believe it bros I looked better than when I was during my Test E cycle) and hard vascularity started to appear is like every day I discover a new vein I did not know it exsisted. So I have lost body fat! and increased muscle definition! my strength is not that great I admit but decent I like the appereance that EQ gives your muscles I think is unique.
I work out 5 times a week with 20 minutes of cardio after lifting. I noticed Test made my nuts shrink and made me loose a little bit my libido especially towards the end of my cycle not to mention being bloated and the acne I got on my back, shoulders and face, also my face was round(moon face) No increased in BP a little bit of aggressivenes not much though. Ok with Eq no acne AT ALL, no moon face, no bloat, no irritability at all! and I am still horny no problems with erections or sexual desire AT ALL!!...here are the negatives: Increased BP, increased appetite, and a litle bit of anxiety- this only happened during the first 3 weeks of my cycle though, I feel fine now.
As far as supps I used a multivita-mineral formula, ALA, Calcium,milk thistle and just now I stated taking a special Heart support formula(for High BP and overall cardio vascular and heart muscle support) we sell at the sports nutrition store I work at. No Creatine, 'cause it makes retain water and remember that is what I did not want in this cycle.
I've decided to do my regular 4 week PCT(Clomid and Nolva) and save my Clen,ECA and T3 for the next time.
I'll keep you posted bros!
Peace
Carlito

 

[Zircon]

Increase in RBC=HTN....watch b/p

HTN -> what's that? And what's the max BP I should go to? I check mine reg it's ridiculous...like 100/50 I think?!! which I believe is pretty low anyway.

In 4 weeks time will start taking half aspirin a day to thin blood to make sure.

I'm thinking of extending my EQ from 12->16 weeks...good idea?

 

[Pablo34]

HTN -> what's that? And what's the max BP I should go to? I check mine reg it's ridiculous...like 100/50 I think?!! which I believe is pretty low anyway.

In 4 weeks time will start taking half aspirin a day to thin blood to make sure.

I'm thinking of extending my EQ from 12->16 weeks...good idea?

Go for it. EQ takes a while to kick in, and the gains take awhile to appear, so 16 weeks would be a nice amount of time if you have that much gear left over after 12 weeks.