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Estro-Proof Men?
- Thread starter rugerjitsu
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I had gyno since 15, it actually got better then it was using mast. It is the same size since i have been 15.
i only use 25 mg aromasin if my sex drive or boners get effected by estro. Which for me is about 1x every 4 weeks, using 500 mg test and 400 mg npp.
i only use 25 mg aromasin if my sex drive or boners get effected by estro. Which for me is about 1x every 4 weeks, using 500 mg test and 400 mg npp.
Youngrobert1
New Member
I got gyno at 13 out of no where. Freaked me out. Two solid little balls behind each nip. A year later completely gone without a trace. Started using aas 29 and on a gram of test and gram of deca it came back. If I drop to low test and high mast it actually reduces to half but never completely goes away. Doesnt bother me at all tho. Ive always had the stereo typical ectomorph body so now that I'm holding a little bit of superphysiological muscle it just looks like I have hard nips all the time lol. I actually think it's cool. I'm on 900 test and 600 tren now and I have no sensitivity there. Ive still got an old bottle of aromasin from Stan like a year old and if I get symptoms I'll take 12.5 mg once. I'm not with proactive ai use. Only if a problem arises and probably just one use
Hatredevil
Banned
I rarely run an ai. I have some in my stash just in case. Running test, npp and dbol right now. Next blast will be drol, tren, test and halo on ME days and I’ll doubt I’ll run an ai or caber then.
Hatredevil
Banned
You can tell by looking at someone what they run? You’re afraid of testosterone the thing your body(maybe) naturally produces? You think you’re qualified to give expert opinions? You’re like some kind of retarded guru vomit baby.
Longevity
New Member
You can get that same fat on sides of chest plus around nipples from the use of stimulants ( meth mostly ). Haven't seen it from Test really. Oh, Craig Titus had it and had it removed with lipo. Hmmm seems he had a slight meth problem at the time. I am sure he is much better now!
MisterSuperGod
New Member
He was an "ecpert" don't you know?
He got banned for being useless, as you can see by the post you quoted. He consistently had nothing of value to contribute.
BigNJ
Subscriber
I've never EVER had any prolactin or estrogen issues.
Back in the day, I used to do 1500 mgs of test per week plus other shit and never hand any issues. I'm lucky in that sense.
Back in the day, I used to do 1500 mgs of test per week plus other shit and never hand any issues. I'm lucky in that sense.
notanothersnake
Member
U guys r so lucky! I had gyno as an adolescent and it gets worse on as little as 250mg/wk of test...
I have a buddy who was a pro strongman and he ran up to 2g of test a wk and never even took a nolvadex... lucky bastard
I have a buddy who was a pro strongman and he ran up to 2g of test a wk and never even took a nolvadex... lucky bastard
enigma34
Subscriber
I have ran 1400mg test no AI. Im not sure if I'm gyno prone. Im not dialed in with AI use as far as bloat and moon face , because I based needing an AI if my nipples started to feel or look off. I think imma start using it to see if it aids in leaning out face and bloat reduce. Im on month 4 now and upping test to 2000mg, 12.5 AI 3x a week, upped from x2 a week on 1400mg.
When I run mast it lowers my estrogen alot. I do get bloods every cycle . if seen as low as 15 and as high 89.
High test has been giving me consistent dreams , annoying. Tren never gave me dreams like some state it does.
When I run mast it lowers my estrogen alot. I do get bloods every cycle . if seen as low as 15 and as high 89.
High test has been giving me consistent dreams , annoying. Tren never gave me dreams like some state it does.
Ridethelightningbarefoot
Member
I can run a gram a week of test and my estrogen will remain in the 20s which isn't good because it's a ratio thing. My Endo dr told me it's about ratio not total. I am honestly envying the high aromatizers because I'm starting to wonder if I need to dose some estrogen. I still haven't beat my natty deadlift and I've been blasting gear for quite a while
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Dbol?
Ridethelightningbarefoot
Member
Hmmmmm idk why I didn't think of that!
rthor4573
Member
What should the ratio be? I aromitize a fair bit even on my trt. About to do my first cycle of 500 test cyp/week and curious what I should shoot for with estro levels, assuming sides aren't an issue. Whats generally ideal?
Bulldog413
Member
Funny this came up. I have never had one estro issue even on 750 test. Blood work has it elevated but nothing that attention is needed. I ran a low dose Asin once with 600 test e (5mg eod) and ended up crashing the fuck out of my estrogen. I felt like shit for almost 2 weeks. I just use Mast with every cycle and never a problem. All my buddies however flare up even at 300 test. I consider myself extremely lucky.
ftaro
Member
Take baseline bloods before you start your cycle. This is where your estro should be as this is where your body naturally keeps it. 3-4 weeks into your cycle, take bloods again. If your estro is higher than it should be, consider doing an ai protocol. If you have symptoms of high e2, seriously consider an ai protocol
ftaro
Member
If you want a specific number, 25 pg/ml for e2 is what’s considered generally ideal
Ridethelightningbarefoot
Member
The only thing I really have to go off of is that my Dr told because my test was at 1200ng that my e2 was perfect at 22. I mean really you should be seeing a Dr. I don't have much experience with the ins and outs of high aromatization. Just know estrogen is good and you need it only take a ai if necessary. Last I checked my estrogen was 55pg but my test was over 3000ng. I'm on a higher dose than I was then and not taking any ai and not having issues. My Dr is always amazed that I am not taking a ai though but he never says why
rthor4573
Member
So I do see an endocrinologist, but I'm keeping him out of my cycle planning. He has prescribed me trt. I did do precycle bloods. Ultrasensitive estro was 85 on 150 test c/week, with half injected 2x per week. Started .25 adex on injection days. Redo of the ultra sensitive estro came back at 21. Perfect for right now. I was just asking if it should be higher when my test levels shoot up on cycle or if I should aim to keep it around there.
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