MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Estro relateled sides
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GigaloRob
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I personally run aromasin. Then again some people prefer arimidex or a little nolva. Really it's up to you to see what works best for you and getting bloods will help you figure that out. Clomid should not even be in the discussion when talking about estrogen control during your cycle
Jimmyinkedup
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In my opinion run exemestane or arimidexc on cycle to manage your estrogen but have a serm like tamoxifen or raloxifene on hand just in case the ai is not adquate and gyno signs begin to show themselves. My goal is to keep m,y e2 within reference range ion cycle so I get thebenfits of e2 without any of the advesre sides (not just gyno).
BIGMESC
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What are the adverse sides of high E other than gyno?
fit2beking
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Low or no libido. This one is a no go for sure.
Bucky
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Anxiety or mood issues are possible
BIGMESC
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I have seen that long term can raise prostate cancer changes. But other than libido, mood or mental states are there physical dangers like high blood pressure, stroke, or wanting to watch ophra or something
fit2beking
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It will have you knitting and weaving hand baskets.
The main thing is blood pressure. Its the silent killer. I know we are all vain...no pun intended...but water retention is a sign of more serious problems. Ppl only desire to treat this because it "looks" bad. Thats a good thing because the reality is that water retention, particularly in the lower extremities, is a sign of leaking capillaries. These are the same kind found in the lungs. You may have experienced shortness of breath on cycle with high e2. This may be a sign of fluid in the lungs. This is no bueno. Many guys brag about taking no AI and how much weight they gain. They dont want to block the e2 because it will decrease fluid retention thus decreasing the pump. But as a medical professional im telling you...controlling e2 is vital and can save your life. You do not want high e2. Err on the side of controlling it. I can go on and on.
As far as other signs of high e2 Anxiety, flushness in face, crave carbs, agitation, decreased urine output/flow, poor sleep, restlessness, water retention. Some signs are similar to high T because e2 follows T. So if T is high aka on cycle then e2 is elevated. Also signs of low e2 are similar to low T. Bad sleep, ED, foggy head, etc.
From a medical prospective everyone should run an AI on cycle. Not only does it keep e2 in check it makes you produce T naturally. It keeps you from complete shut down. e2 folows T...same in reverse sort of. It e2 is pushed down natural T production increases because the body thinks that there's not enough T to convert to e2.
As for AI I like Adex and think it is the best. Unfortunately everyone converts T to e2 differently. We are all dif machines. A good starting point is .25mg eod adjust up or down from here based on how you feel. Labs are great but you know when you feel good and when you feel like shit.
Heres a good rule. Keep high e2 sides down but keep morning wood.
Let me know if I can help anymore. E2 is a hard thing to dial in but when you do....thats cruising!
From a medical prospective everyone should run an AI on cycle. Not only does it keep e2 in check it makes you produce T naturally. It keeps you from complete shut down. e2 folows T...same in reverse sort of. It e2 is pushed down natural T production increases because the body thinks that there's not enough T to convert to e2.
As for AI I like Adex and think it is the best. Unfortunately everyone converts T to e2 differently. We are all dif machines. A good starting point is .25mg eod adjust up or down from here based on how you feel. Labs are great but you know when you feel good and when you feel like shit.
Heres a good rule. Keep high e2 sides down but keep morning wood.
Let me know if I can help anymore. E2 is a hard thing to dial in but when you do....thats cruising!
BIGMESC
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Thanks rlhall12 that answers my question but leads to another. How long does adex take to lower e2 If it is at say 175 on a scale of 7-42 yikes. or does it only keep if from getting higher? should the dose be higher or built up?
No it is a e2 killer. It will take it to zero if you take enough and it doesn't take much. You need to be careful it will crash you if not done right or too much. I would take .5mg a day until you get morning wood. At that point start .25 eod and go up or down from there based on staying in the zone...limited high e2 with morning wood. This stuff has a fast onset like within an hour...and like a 48hr half life I think. This means it works quickly and is out of your system rather quickly. Hope that helps. But yea get that e2 down bro. Not good.
Regarding high BP,
I wish you guys would have a chance to get your hands on something we call here BRYNDZA, unpasterized Bryndza.
I'ts made of sheep milk, and there is nothing better in regards of lowering BP.
Let me tell you, my mother had 158/ 97
due to stress related issues [ job, home, etc].
She ate 150g of bryndza, and in 10 minutes BP was 117/78,
Amazing, her doc prescribed her high BP pills,
she stoped using them couple of months ago.
Seriously, if you have any chance to get ahold of this treassure, do it, it will lower your BP like nothing
I wish you guys would have a chance to get your hands on something we call here BRYNDZA, unpasterized Bryndza.
I'ts made of sheep milk, and there is nothing better in regards of lowering BP.
Let me tell you, my mother had 158/ 97
due to stress related issues [ job, home, etc].
She ate 150g of bryndza, and in 10 minutes BP was 117/78,
Amazing, her doc prescribed her high BP pills,
she stoped using them couple of months ago.
Seriously, if you have any chance to get ahold of this treassure, do it, it will lower your BP like nothing
fit2beking
New Member
So would drinking sheep milk have the same effects?
Quite interesting this Bryndza. The issue is finding it in the states. The unpastuerized versions are hard to find. I would like to try this if I could locate some.
fit2beking
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fit2beking
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Yes! Some people it affects differently. It doesnt take much for me to crash so be careful.
