Estrogen levels before and during Equipoise Cycle

[penche]

Pretty cool assessment if it was Eq. I’m more intrigued that your lipid panel is quite normal on that much Eq per week. Thanks for posting

 

[Fryguy]

Pretty cool assessment if it was Eq. I’m more intrigued that your lipid panel is quite normal on that much Eq per week. Thanks for posting

The lipid panel was prior to the EQ cycle. I've always struggled with lipid levels. Diet and cardio were on point lol. I finally got in with a real Endo and I've got blood work scheduled soon.

 

[Dr JIM]

Wanted to post these for reference. Prior to the cycle I was running 150mg UG test cyp with no ai as TRT. I ran EQ at 600mg and UG test cyp at 150mg with again no ai for 15 weeks. Results are typed out below as well.

Drawn 10/26/18 @8:18am
Testosterone serum: 1,453ng/dL
Testosterone free: 34pg/mL
Estradiol, sensitive: 84.2pg/mL

Drawn 1/04/2019 @8:54am
Testosterone serum: >1,500ng/dL
Testosterone free: >50pg/mL
Estradiol, sensitive: 6.9pg/mL

I've read about EQ acting as an ai, but never anything definitive. Essentially I had about a 77 point drop in estrogens in a 2 1/2 month period with no ai.

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Whats missing? An analysis of both EQ and TT

 

[Rivani22]

Actually ATD is a boldenone metabolite, and ATD acts as an AI. So it's not suprising your estrogen dropped. I've heard it before and noticed it myself.

"ATD may cause a positive test for the anabolic steroid boldenone, of which it is a metabolite and is also prohibited in amateur and professional sports which forbids aromatase inhibitors."

Sources:
Metabolic study of androsta-1,4,6-triene-3,17-dione in horses using liquid chromatography/high resolution mass spectrometry. - PubMed - NCBI

1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione - Wikipedia

 

[anabolicfre4k]

I have the same experience, I was wondering what I got weakened libido and orgasms after 4 weeks on EQ and concluded it was due to lower E2

See Bloods - E2

 

[Necessary Evil]

My previous cycle was Test E @600mg per week, EQ @1.2g per week and AI 12.5mg twice per week on pin days. Here is my bloodwork at the time.

As you can see EQ crushed my E2, on the pre-cycle bloodwork I had ~35 iirc.

 

[johntt44]

Actually ATD is a boldenone metabolite, and ATD acts as an AI. So it's not suprising your estrogen dropped. I've heard it before and noticed it myself.

"ATD may cause a positive test for the anabolic steroid boldenone, of which it is a metabolite and is also prohibited in amateur and professional sports which forbids aromatase inhibitors."

Sources:
Metabolic study of androsta-1,4,6-triene-3,17-dione in horses using liquid chromatography/high resolution mass spectrometry. - PubMed - NCBI

1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione - Wikipedia

This is the AI property that I talked about in an earlier post.

 

[Den84]

boldenone does not have an AI action. indeed, it should aromatize 50% less than the testosterone....

I must contradict myself.

after reading this thread, it was April 2019, I wanted to try a stack, using tests and bolds at the same dosage, but without AI. So I tried: 400 mg / week test c, 400 mg / week bold, 300 mg week tren H. Usually I used the win inj instead of the bold (so: 400 test c, 150 win inj, 300 tren) and I had to use 3 half tablets per week of letrozole , to keep the E2 within the range.

But this summer using bold instead of win inj and without adding any kind of AI, I managed to keep E2 at 22 pg / ml. for me it was a surprise, I didn't think that bold had an AI action. So I learned a new thing.

I love this forum, here you never stop learning. thanks to everybody.