Excruciating pain from Balkan Test U SubQ

[Ss99]

I’m having extremely high levels of pain when injecting as low as 0.2ml of this product subcutaneously, along with redness at the site of injection.

I don’t have any pain using it intramuscularly on the other hand, so I’m trying to figure out what’s going on here. The product seems genuine, the codes check out on the Balkan Pharmaceuticals website but I noticed the labels online, as well as an archive of the old website page, claim to use only BB with no BA.

Does anyone here know if this is normal when high levels of BB are used? I believe Bayer’s Nebido has a usually high level of BB to help with viscosity which I wonder whether it’s the case here as it doesn’t seem to be as thick as pure castor oil.

I’ve injected ridiculous amounts of Bayer Testoviron and Rimobolan in the past, both subq and IM, without having any kind of PIP like this so I can only guess it’s a BB issue? Three other ugl Test U’s I tried subq were fine too, including Balkans first batch of Undecanoate with Peach oil, so I can rule out the carrier oil and raws here I suppose.

 

[Sector]

Another "I injected subq and have a lump/pain/redness" type of thread

Grow a pair and just inject IM. You even said you don't have pain when you do IM

 

[Ss99]

Another "I injected subq and have a lump/pain/redness" type of thread

Grow a pair and just inject IM. You even said you don't have pain when you do IM

Are you an imbecile?

 

[Sector]

Are you an imbecile?

"I’m having extremely high levels of pain when injecting as low as 0.2ml of this product subcutaneously, along with redness at the site of injection.

I don’t have any pain using it intramuscularly on the other hand,"

 

[Ss99]

"I’m having extremely high levels of pain when injecting as low as 0.2ml of this product subcutaneously, along with redness at the site of injection.

I don’t have any pain using it intramuscularly on the other hand,"

And now how about going ahead and reading the rest of the text?

How bloody stupid are you? Jesus.

 

[Sector]

And now how about going ahead and reading the rest of the text?

How bloody stupid are you? Jesus.

You ruled out the carrier oils and raws, so the only variables left are:
IM vs subq
Concentration of the gear (if the concentration of the gear is higher and you're injecting it subq, compared to the concentration of other gear you used to inject)
.
Again you even said IM doesn't give you pain at all, so it seems like you have the logical deduction and IQ capabilities of a potato.

 

[Juicedhead]

Balkan uses EO. Inject IM

 

[Juicedhead]

wtf is this subq gear shit. Fucking moreplateslessdates dumbass ideas spreading. Derek literally spreads nonsense.

 

[ThinkDeroid]

If I have issues (big lumps, pain, etc) with subq it's always because of the gear and have to switch over to IM. Nowadays, I only try to buy from sources which allow me to inject subq.

I don't want to say, shit gear = must do IM injection, but for me it fees like that.

 

[Sector]

wtf is this subq gear shit. Fucking moreplateslessdates dumbass ideas spreading. Derek literally spreads nonsense.

Must be a reddit or ticktock trend or something. Never used to hear about anyone injecting subq a few years back, especially on the gh15 board. Seems to be a newer trend. Then they flock to the forums complaining about the issues they're having

 

[phenominal34]

And now how about going ahead and reading the rest of the text?

How bloody stupid are you? Jesus.

So if someone gives you an answer you want to hear … then what ?

 

[Ss99]

wtf is this subq gear shit. Fucking moreplateslessdates dumbass ideas spreading. Derek literally spreads nonsense.

When did Balkan start using EO, have you got a reference? Or are you possibly confusing them with Pharmacom?

You think Moreplatesmoredates invented subq injections? Hahaha

 

[Ss99]

You ruled out the carrier oils and raws, so the only variables left are:
IM vs subq
Concentration of the gear (if the concentration of the gear is higher and you're injecting it subq, compared to the concentration of other gear you used to inject)
.
Again you even said IM doesn't give you pain at all, so it seems like you have the logical deduction and IQ capabilities of a potato.

Must be a reddit or ticktock trend or something. Never used to hear about anyone injecting subq a few years back, especially on the gh15 board. Seems to be a newer trend. Then they flock to the forums complaining about the issues they're having

Nice work! We’re finally getting somewhere it seems. Let me help you a bit more, hint: benzyl benzoate content or other excipients not mentioned on the label

I’d hazard a guess that this subject is somewhat outside of your wheelhouse bud. Now you’re bringing IQ into a discussion on injection pain? Lmao.

Ah, the GH15 board, a forum renowned for its intellectual discussions and encouragement of safer use and harm reduction. Now I can see why you’re struggling here

 

[Ss99]

If I have issues (big lumps, pain, etc) with subq it's always because of the gear and have to switch over to IM. Nowadays, I only try to buy from sources which allow me to inject subq.

I don't want to say, shit gear = must do IM injection, but for me it fees like that.

Interesting, and do you attribute the pain to issues with sterility or possibly the quality of oils or other excipients used?

I’ve injected subq for years but I never really had a problem until now outside of a specific batch of Test E from Liska, and this includes various suspensions of androgens to peptides & HCG.

 

[4Drago]

Subq injections are just ridiculous. Inject IM which is what oil based gear is made for. Been trying to understand this fad. Just doesn't make sense.

 

[Eddie.]

I pin sq and if i'll ever come across a gear that creates inflammation i probably pin im couple shots until the new gear arrives and then toss it to trash. Do what works for you. Obviously continue pinning it sq and create inflammation is not a solution.

 

[Juicedhead]

When did Balkan start using EO, have you got a reference? Or are you possibly confusing them with Pharmacom?

You think Moreplatesmoredates invented subq injections? Hahaha

actually it sayd they use miglyol. Not even sure if this is accurate. Which lab uses which oils?

 

[buzzingonaas]

Subq injections are just ridiculous. Inject IM which is what oil based gear is made for. Been trying to understand this fad. Just doesn't make sense.

the idea behind subq is to keep levels as steady as they could possibly get which is true in studies, but depending on what the lab uses in the gear can cause unnecessary pain, welts and inflammation. My coach does subq and encourages guys to. I stopped trying it after my second injection and have never done again. Not for me

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Nice work! We’re finally getting somewhere it seems. Let me help you a bit more, hint: benzyl benzoate content or other excipients not mentioned on the label

Testoviron uses 34%
Nebido used 50%

I think rimo uses about 44%


I think regardless. are you trying to daily dose something with a 21+ day half life?

 

[Mongo966]

@readalot knows a thing or two about excipients. Maybe he can help.