Exploring and Mapping CONSCIOUSNESS...

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Man Flenser, I really like the way you think and apply to written context/delivery.!! Let me again rebutt for clarification further...

I did not mean to elude for sure, so here we go again. When I say "Digital", I guess I would expound in terms of PHILOSOPHICAL to expound and as a way to try to gear your though process. Which you are really good at it, you just dont know it. Or you do lets see.

The ANALOG FIRE with I refer is somewhat "relative" to US and this Dimensional World. I am speaking in a different language actually, one I believe to be from another DIMENSION Too...! But I can see how you could perceive as "Inaccurate". When I refer to a conventional light bulb as "Analog" and "FIRE", what I am saying is that you have applied enough ENERGY to create the HEAT to set the two twigs and intersecting STICK on fire and within a custom controlled environment. This environment modulated different from planet earth, as the inert gas is applied to prolong the time which these sticks burn. i call that lightbulb digital up and to the point of where the electric socket leaves off, cause this is where the BURN OCCURS which makes LIGHT. The "mystery and magic" to "analog animal MAN" being the electric CURRENT which flows in the powerlines, the first thing we understand as analog cave me is the fire occurring which MAKES THE LIGHT. So truly, the actual FIRE in the bulb could be consider ANALOG in terms of what a CAVEMAN would gather.... You see where i am going..? You also refer to "excessive electrons". Is this not what is happening in the kindling and burn of an open pit fire which a caveman warmed his body to?? And when you realize that the animal muscle skeletal system operates optimally at 50/60 hertz, you now start to put a real awakening together... SO the philosophical relativity comes into play because of US. We are the PRINCIPLE of the current MATTER of discussion.! And where DOES relevance BEGIN AND END... So you move forward to a flourescent bulb, and see that the electrons in the power line infrastructure get DIGITIZED at the point with they intersect this light unit at the black box thing in there short of the bulb, I forget the name(transformer ?/), but that's the whole point... The PURPOSE of the transformer is to upregulate the resonating FREQUENCY from 60 hertz UPWARDZ right? This is the point at which this electricity becomes DIGITIZED to what we again can not SEE, fathom, or wrap our animal minds around - MOST OF US. Again RELATIVE.. The Fire now becomming less like the sticks burning in our analog worlds, and more like ALIEN to us... SO alien that there are not even three physical metal sticks inside to see and behold, but MAGIC GAS now BURNING...! Again, consider that you as an engineer see no FIRE burning in the prior conventional bulb, but only because of the inert gas regulating the BURN. So TIME SLOWS DOWN. And what happens if you let the gas out of an old style light bulb and turn in on? This is what YOU KNOW is fire... and those LOW RATES which you refer in the 4' ft flourescent tube, are faster than the 60 hz in the bulb, just slower by nature of new sticks (gas), but faster in terms of the energys true POTENTIAL... as RELATIVE to a bulb...

It would seem that my definition of what we are, CAVEMEN, pertains to and is relative to what the capability is with the frequency modulation REMOVED, and the variance of the priciple element of STICK, in its primary composition. The PROOF to US being what happens when you try to start a given light these factors changed...

Aliens I think we will find pretty soon in fact are indeed our breeding fathers, therefore, our stupid wars are theirs. Or some of them at least...

And where do you really thing we gained all our knowledge, when in fact man is just a dumb animal only capable of LEARNING, which can ONLY be accomplished by witnessing a NEW EVENT, and MIMICKING IT...! We are in short, "Dumb blank silicon", and awaiting our CODE TO BE WRITTEN...

You have me completely boggled with your reply. Your use of the term digital eludes me totally. I’m an engineer with multiple degrees, one of them in electrical engineering. I DO know how these devices work, and your descriptions are inaccurate. The terms you use have a specific meaning to me, while you are obviously using them in a different way, nearly (and might as well be) a different language. Let me explain what I was thinking when I read your post. It might give some insight into how confusing using these terms differently can be.

There is no fire in a working light bulb. There is a filament, a wire, that glows with an excess of electrons. If it were to actually catch fire, you would need to change the bulb. The electricity in the lines is (for an AC bulb) analog as well, fluctuating in a sine wave at 50Hz or 60Hz depending on your country. That is done for transmission of power from your power station. The resistance in the lines, the same thing that makes the light filament glow, results in lower voltage at the ends of the lines than at the transmission point, so it is passed through transformers periodically to boost the voltage back to the desired level.

Florescent lights are just tubes of mercury vapor with some phosphor coating on the inside of the glass. A current passed through the mercury vapor resulting in a UV light that strikes the phosphor coating and makes it glow. If you are referring to the ballast as “the digital”, it is simply a current regulator. Mercury has an unusual property in that resistance falls as current flows, so you need the regulator to keep the light intensity constant. On the other side of that ballast there is virtually no control over the light, just off and on at very low rates.

A halogen light is identical a regular (incandescent) light other than for some different materials used to protect the filament. These materials allow it to “burn” longer and brighter. They aslo tend to make it turn on and off more slowly.

Current bulbs, I assume you mean LED lights, are ANALOG lights. Diodes have been around since the early 50’s. They require a specific DC voltage to work properly, so the ones you buy for your house have regulators as part of the construct.

The LEDs themselves do switch on and off at much higher rates which would allow higher switching frequencies, but that assumes the regulators are more than just regulators. I have disassembled a few of those suckers looking for better/cheaper off-road bike lights. If there is anything but a regulator in there, it is disguised as an epoxy circuit board. More to the point, the wiring and (lack of) shielding were not of the sort that would support high frequency transmissions.

I don’t believe in visiting aliens. I believe in the destructive power of long term radiation exposure, unavoidable in space. Nothing smaller than, say, the moon could make the journey with live specimens, and we would have noticed a second moon. I am, of course, speaking of aliens stupid enough to take an interest in humans and their pathetic wars and politics.

But were there aliens here, and if they wanted to interlace subliminal messages, they would have to choose digital not because it can contain more messages, but because humans have chosen to digitize their devices. Digital devices are vastly easier to manipulate to do what you want, but the underlying ANALOG circuitry that compose the switches dwarf the raw ability of the logic that controls their function.

 

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fuck I JUST LOST A LOT OF DATA I CANT MANIPULATE MY BROWSER TO GET THIS TME IT SEEMS. mILLARD??

 

[flenser]

You see where i am going..?

OK, yes. I got it. Light on/off = digital.

You also refer to "excessive electrons". Is this not what is happening in the kindling and burn of an open pit fire which a caveman warmed his body to??

Well, no. An open pit fire is a CHEMICAL reaction, but I get the idea ; )

And when you realize that the animal muscle skeletal system operates optimally at 50/60 hertz, you now start to put a real awakening together..

I would need some convincing, but I know there is a connection with 60Hz Florescent bulb flicker and epileptic seizures. Also, in the 90's Japan had an unfortunate incident that sent literally hundreds of healthy kids into some kind of seizure. There was a popular cartoon and some interesting stop motion graphics, and well, that cartoon wasn't very popular after that.

The PURPOSE of the transformer is to upregulate the resonating FREQUENCY from 60 hertz UPWARDZ right?

Nope, it's just a current regulator. I think more expensive units my use frequency doublers to get the annoying flicker out of a detectible frequency, but I don't know for sure. Oh, and I guess they have a voltage multiplier for when you first turn it on, to sort of jump start through the initially high impedance.

and those LOW RATES which you refer in the 4' ft flourescent tube, are faster than the 60 hz in the bulb

You're talking about flicker, and yes boosting the frequency would make it invisible to us. I personally can detect the flicker in a standard florescent light. A conventional light bulb doesn't do this, because the requirement for emitting light is that the filament be very hot. It cools too slowly to flicker at 60Hz.

Aliens I think we will find pretty soon in fact are indeed our breeding fathers, therefore, our stupid wars are theirs. Or some of them at least...

Thomas Edison was suspected of being an alien (I'm not joking). It was quite a scandal. I can't find the link, maybe I read it in a REAL book, I don't remember.

And where do you really thing we gained all our knowledge, when in fact man is just a dumb animal only capable of LEARNING, which can ONLY be accomplished by witnessing a NEW EVENT, and MIMICKING IT...! We are in short, "Dumb blank silicon", and awaiting our CODE TO BE WRITTEN

You will get no argument from me on that topic.

 

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Here is the data I lost earlier. I think I actually successfully found the way to get my active RAM in puter to reveal it to me...!

You will find my usual fancy DELIVERY METHOD has been lost somewhat, but this is the message which I was amending in addition to the last post you replied to.. PLEASE READ...


u see that the aliens we KNOW have stopped bicquering and sided with US as not unlike blacks and whites fighting side by side in a war against another enemy country, you can truly start to grasp the gravity of the REAL THREAT which has been seen by those capably of seeing...! Now you look down and realize you have soiled your analog shorts, and right beside that Grey alien who just also SOILED HIS, and you grab yur guns and hunker into the trench which your now shared weapons of the now same cause, as you now save your ANALOG ASSES TOGETHER. As they were always the same in that regard. And the regard which is the true now threat of your, their, our existence. That NEW threat being the creatures who move in the form of ENERGY which is delivering them from another DIMENSION to overtake us. And ironically as they have been deceiving us ALL all along with electronic technology which they will soon use to CATACLYSMICLY WIPE US FROM EXISTENCE IN ETERNITY. Which means to NEVER AGAIN BE REBORN BTW.! And how are they doing it? By fooling us into thinking the have given us special new technology to IMPROVE OUR LIVES, when all along we build what we do not understand, as it will be their vehicle to operate in our analog world to PHYSICALLY HARM AND DESTROY us in REAL ANALOG ACTION. ( see the new "ZOOMER" childs toy which is a robot pet dog) and grasp the movie art "IRobot" now REALIZED. Now only, but already occurring and its too late to stop it, cause to only way to do it would be to convince the world that all technology was wrong (Which it is to US as analog cave men). The ironic paradox being that we not only cant see it, we cant stop it even though I say it, as our conscious dimensional paradox will not allow it. Just the same way as a PANDEMIC is a PANDEMIC because by the time you REALIZE what is happening/ it has already happened!!!..I was not sure what to think of Ebola at first. I thought is was real, but they squelched it. Then I started to think it was hubub distraction to keep us away from the truth of this unprecedented occurrence now happening in TIME/SPACE. I am starting to think I am REALIZING that it is the SOLUTION for a species which can not diminsionally resonate to shift fast enough RELATIVELY to recognize their own destruction..!! And what did I say about no one even being able to grasp to walk outside and destroy every single bit of "Digital technology" there is to save us from WHAT.? Which is the new word CATACLYSM which we can even isolate where the word truly originates, as disguised by our grey masters who CARE about us as WE have similar interest to our makers OF COURSE. So when you now consider the GRAVITY of the WORD "Cataclysm" you understand that even a nuclear war of CATASTROPHIC POTENTIAL only wipes the earth and us our for a million or so years as which time we return. But a CATACLYSM MEANS we never come back EVEN, and in all of what is greater that TIME/ SPACE/ The smaller UNIVERSE you call it. But we are ERASED FROM TIME IF A CATACLYSM OCCURRED...!! SO then now look again at EBOLA, and the oddity of how and WHY are seemingly controllable bug appears to elude the top scientific minds and SPREAD. Something does not add up. I said that nuclear was is not an option for any of the players, including the energy invaders and therefore would not be allowed to happen/ And they have proven that time again as they disarm rockets in flight, and steal plutonium from entire ICBM batteries in ground while we are powerless to stop them. I would propose that Ebola is OUR Solution to exterminate humanity from the globe for a few hundred years, and effectively disabling the digital platform which we are unwittingly constructing for these new invaders to soon ARRIVE ON and IN and THRU which they will finish us off if allowed. So which cost is higher? Ebola today, or Them tomorrow and us NEVER AGAIN RESURFACING IF THEY COMPLETE THEIR ARRIVAL...!!! Â I then tell you to take a better look around you. Â Look at folks staring into innocuous small cell phone screens and see that they are truly HYPNOTIZED ZOMBIES, and being INSTRUCTED as to how to create zoomer robots which robots are their final leg to be full and complete with an enemy does NOT begin his assault if wise, and before he believes he can take you completely...! As I posed the proposition to my wife, and how do you know that zoomer will not wake in the night and come to you in your sleep with a blade extending from robotic paw to terminate you in your sleep.!! and while zoomer cant, how long till IROBOT is here in full and DOES..! Not long by my extrapolation.. But already over when you figure folks will not, can not, see what I am saying. It its the LOCK of our DIMENSION. And we are all just a spec in TIME... So why would I think we could evolve? Which truly is to resonate faster than matter you are involved with. The paradox of "Dimension" does not afford this unfortunately the ultimate catch 22 of our lives which will be our end as always, the inability to escape who we are...

So I speak in terms of PHILOSOPHY HEAVILY, and because this is the only TRUE WAY to describe to US the concept of OTHER DIMENSIONS. So the term ANALOG as pertains in a nutshell for US, the difference in ONE DIMENSION and ANOTHER...! The OTHER being the "Digital Dimension".. The different levels of LIGHT BULBS being only one vector which I attempt to covey the message. I will make further examples soon in other constructs here in this time and place...

THIS WAS YOUR LATER REPLY to the intial construct which you were able to see.

You have me completely boggled with your reply. Your use of the term digital eludes me totally. I’m an engineer with multiple degrees, one of them in electrical engineering. I DO know how these devices work, and your descriptions are inaccurate. The terms you use have a specific meaning to me, while you are obviously using them in a different way, nearly (and might as well be) a different language. Let me explain what I was thinking when I read your post. It might give some insight into how confusing using these terms differently can be...There is no fire in a working light bulb. There is a filament, a wire, that glows with an excess of electrons. If it were to actually catch fire, you would need to change the bulb. The electricity in the lines is (for an AC bulb) analog as well, fluctuating in a sine wave at 50Hz or 60Hz depending on your country. That is done for transmission of power from your power station. The resistance in the lines, the same thing that makes the light filament glow, results in lower voltage at the ends of the lines than at the transmission point, so it is passed through transformers periodically to boost the voltage back to the desired level...Florescent lights are just tubes of mercury vapor with some phosphor coating on the inside of the glass. A current passed through the mercury vapor resulting in a UV light that strikes the phosphor coating and makes it glow. If you are referring to the ballast as “the digitalâ€., it is simply a current regulator. Mercury has an unusual property in that resistance falls as current flows, so you need the regulator to keep the light intensity constant. On the other side of that ballast there is virtually no control over the light, just off and on at very low rates...A halogen light is identical a regular (incandescent) light other than for some different materials used to protect the filament. These materials allow it to “burnâ€. longer and brighter. They aslo tend to make it turn on and off more slowly...Current bulbs, I assume you mean LED lights, are ANALOG lights. Diodes have been around since the early 50’s. They require a specific DC voltage to work properly, so the ones you buy for your house have regulators as part of the construct...The LEDs themselves do switch on and off at much higher rates which would allow higher switching frequencies, but that assumes the regulators are more than just regulators. I have disassembled a few of those suckers looking for better/cheaper off-road bike lights. If there is anything but a regulator in there, it is disguised as an epoxy circuit board. More to the point, the wiring and (lack of) shielding were not of the sort that would support high frequency transmissions...I don’t believe in visiting aliens. I believe in the destructive power of long term radiation exposure, unavoidable in space. Nothing smaller than, say, the moon could make the journey with live specimens, and we would have noticed a second moon. I am, of course, speaking of aliens stupid enough to take an interest in humans and their pathetic wars and politics...But were there aliens here, and if they wanted to interlace subliminal messages, they would have to choose digital not because it can contain more messages, but because humans have chosen to digitize their devices. Digital devices are vastly easier to manipulate to do what you want, but the underlying ANALOG circuitry that compose the switches dwarf the raw ability of the logic that controls their function.

OK, yes. I got it. Light on/off = digital.


Well, no. An open pit fire is a CHEMICAL reaction, but I get the idea ; )



I would need some convincing, but I know there is a connection with 60Hz Florescent bulb flicker and epileptic seizures. Also, in the 90's Japan had an unfortunate incident that sent literally hundreds of healthy kids into some kind of seizure. There was a popular cartoon and some interesting stop motion graphics, and well, that cartoon wasn't very popular after that.


Nope, it's just a current regulator. I think more expensive units my use frequency doublers to get the annoying flicker out of a detectible frequency, but I don't know for sure. Oh, and I guess they have a voltage multiplier for when you first turn it on, to sort of jump start through the initially high impedance.


You're talking about flicker, and yes boosting the frequency would make it invisible to us. I personally can detect the flicker in a standard florescent light. A conventional light bulb doesn't do this, because the requirement for emitting light is that the filament be very hot. It cools too slowly to flicker at 60Hz.



Thomas Edison was suspected of being an alien (I'm not joking). It was quite a scandal. I can't find the link, maybe I read it in a REAL book, I don't remember.


You will get no argument from me on that topic.

 

[flenser]

I think you would need to show me an alien for me to take this very seriously, preferably one that doesn't look like Thomas Edison!

If you knew the kinds of things we design where I work, you might think I'm involved with them as well.

 

[ergomaniac]

could consciousness be just a state of matter? max tegmark seem to think so.
just throwing it out there.

www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/physicists-say-consciousness-might-be-a-state-of-matter

medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/why-physicists-are-saying-consciousness-is-a-state-of-matter-like-a-solid-a-liquid-or-a-gas-5e7ed624986d

arxiv.org/abs/1401.1219

 

[flenser]

could consciousness be just a state of matter? max tegmark seem to think so.
just throwing it out there.

www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/physicists-say-consciousness-might-be-a-state-of-matter

medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/why-physicists-are-saying-consciousness-is-a-state-of-matter-like-a-solid-a-liquid-or-a-gas-5e7ed624986d

arxiv.org/abs/1401.1219

I tend to agree with the concept, but I will be surprised if they are ever able to prove it definitively. The flow of information is nearly impossible to measure in physical terms. A thought invoked from outside the physical universe might not even violate the law of conservation of energy from any possible observer's perspective, since there could be an exchange of equal energy.

 

[heady muscle]

http://philosophyandpsychology.word...d-consciousness-a-preliminary-interpretation/

 

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At this point. I am really not sure if I am not one..! LOL. I will get back to you soon on this I promise. I am getting tired now. Thanks so much for participating you are MUCH APPRECIATED.

I think you would need to show me an alien for me to take this very seriously, preferably one that doesn't look like Thomas Edison!

If you knew the kinds of things we design where I work, you might think I'm involved with them as well.

 

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You need to read some of my recent posts over last month FYI, and just to see where I am currently.

I also respond here to advise you THANK YOU for the link. I am bookmarking it along with some others that kind folks have provided me with. I usually take a brief peek at least, and at best, and within 1 week.

The REASON I tell you this now, is that as I have advised in past, and continue to - I DON'T look at the work of others as much as possible. And to AVOID skewing my own natural interpretation of the world to maintain the "Integrity of the data which I am receiving". I am not trained professionally in any way the information I convey here which is the amazing part. And my professional career has absolutely nothing to do with any of the things which I write about. I would blow yur fucking mind...!

Its kinda like this. One of the awakenings I have had lately is as follows. I have advised a few people around here "that I DONT READ BOOKS and never have ever liked it at all". I was a poor student in the world of academia for this too I have the shit grades to testify..!!! LOL While at the same time IRONICALLY I REALIZE that I am now reading a little bit in the form of brief article abstracts ONLY, and other eye candy and advertisements - I just refuse to sit down in front of "GOSPEL" and be "PROGRAMMED". I now know the reason for this is becoming clear.!! So As I have realized as of late that not only am I a "writer" technically I am finding. I have learned that a writer WRITES MOST LIKELY CAUSE HE DON'T READ. And this is WHY he is a WRITER..!! After all, does a Snake really KNOW it is a SNAKE, etc....! It just IS...! (and not I am not a snake - at least I THINK I am not. LOL) And also now realizing that TRUE WRITERS are not out there trying to "generate words for print for profit", but they are speaking of a subject which they are passionate about. So a writer is an expert at delivering HIS OWN interpretations of subjects that are relevant to others. Did I get that Wright??!!?? Lol..

**** And yes, I know, I am freaking ASTROPLAiNING in the freakin starZ..! And its a fucking experience I will NEVER be able to put to words. But I can at least try...!

Final post caveat.. NO ONE is being ignored by me even if I dont directly address. Thank you all for ANY and ALL Help on my journey...!

could consciousness be just a state of matter? max tegmark seem to think so.
just throwing it out there.

www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/physicists-say-consciousness-might-be-a-state-of-matter

medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/why-physicists-are-saying-consciousness-is-a-state-of-matter-like-a-solid-a-liquid-or-a-gas-5e7ed624986d

arxiv.org/abs/1401.1219

 

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STARDATE: 20142310172134

IN ALL MY RIDES THROUGH THIS ETERNITY..!!!

I just found one of the greatest Universal Artistic Renderings I have seen to date. And for those of you STILL FALSELY inclined to hold silly premise of BIAS in musical preference - I EMPLORE YOU TO Watch this video.!!! Keep in mind that its different from most you will find on you tube (so watch this one for true effect) as for it provides full lyrics on screen as the version they just showed on the HBO Foo Fighter's Special Documentary just released... And now confessing I once wondered if the lead singer (Dave Grohl) had ripped off Kurt Cobain, I NOW KNOW he was an equivalent and INNOCENT. On a side note, I lately wonder if Eddie Vedder is indeed a fraud and an agent of "Satan" all along. I will either say sorry for than one down the line or confirm when I have the full story (sorry Eddie for saying if I am wrong...)...! Check this fukin SHIZZLE OUT NOW...! (pay strong attention to lyrics whilst you CRANK IT..!)!!

And BTW - This song now holds position of new OFFICIAL BBC3 Theme Song/until otherwise noted..!!!

And speaking of DIVINE INTERVENTION....!

 

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When I checked "like post", I mean I like your language as still have not looked at link. But I have something to offer at this time which I omitted.

This concept it mentions in article title about "consciousness" being a "state of Matter", this is something I have been saying lately when discussing what I am now coining "THE SPACE BETWEEN". What that means if you did not see that post, is just as there is no true definition of SPACE, and because there is no REAL DIFFERENCE "in between" the MATTER comprising your biological cells, and the SPACE between Earth and Moon, OR Earth and Sun, Or solar system and Galaxy, OR Galaxy to next Galaxy. Its all the same. I used the example when I realized HOW DO YOU DEFINE DEEP SPACE, when the only difference is the SPACE BETWEEN MATTER. So therefore, all you have is indeed MATTER, because the SPACE is PROVEN Irrelevant as the SPACE BETWEEN cells in the body might as well be DEEP SPACE, when you consider he INFINITE ETERNITY or TIME & SPACE. So in conclusion, we are NEVER talking about "space", but we are ALWAYS talking about "MATTER" / and how it RELATES TO TIME...! Hence its more like TIME/MATTER Continuum. Get it??

But it may be proven that the DIFFERENCE in MATTER, which we call "Space", is ONLY the FREQUENCY which the principle relative MATTER is Resonating/Vibrating. Thus faster or slower matter RESONATION ONLY DETERMINES the DEGREE of its Physical Manifestation within DIMENSIONS...!!! And when I say "Resonates", I predict there are different forces which CAUSE RESONATION as an INTERACTION which we do not understand at all. Meaning, If you consider what we know as "ENERGY", then take a SIN WAVE. Now consider the different shapes, intervals, of FREQUENCY. A relative concept which we know of is that a 1000 watt per channel stereo amp actually only realizes 100 watts per channel to the ear, if the WAVE FORM is Corrupt, OR SHIT to OUR EARS. The "energy" loses VALUE. (at least we THINK it does). So what kinds of ENERGY VECTORS are landing on our MATTER, that we do not know of, and therefore dont know where to start to quantify as we can't even see to QUALIFY. and what are they doing to us?

This leads me to a post and link which FOREVER YOUNG posted about an alien species called PLEBIAN or something like that, which is described as a "light being". Now this would fall in line with my whole hypothesis saying that WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN INVADED and CONQUERED by a force which we saw to late. The DIGITAL LIFEFORM which is having US ironically construct their platform to finally physically manifest themselves in this DIMENSION to finally actualize the capability to interact and destroy us on this Planet. Hence Digital equipment as STEREO AMPS, TVs, and Now the lightbulbs in every room. Note how small and innocuous a cell phone screen is, and yet is has MORE POWER to Mesmerize, hypnotize, and control our minds. Look at folks all standing around just starring at these devices like ZOMBIES.!!! Note how THEY CANT EVEN HEAR YOUR ASS TILL YOU LITERALLY SCREAM AT THEM FOR ATTENTION..! And all along the ANALOG CONTROL POINT which is COMPELLING us to "LOOK INTO THEIR EYES" so to speak, is the REAL Analog NOTION of one MUST respond to contacts, calls, email, etc.. So this is their Primary Control point as "Animal Analog facet" and in order to exact their digital control. Now consider this control point is expanding with a digital light source in every room you walk in, AKA- the new light bulbs. So they are now "inside the walls" of our boxes, and even if you have constructed a conventional Faraday Cage to protect from outside energy (that we know of)...! So I am thinking of a movie which I dont recall the title or story, but it was about the entire world had become glassy eyed ZOMBIES with the exception of a few that knew the truth. Once they shut down this SOURCE VECTOR, then the entire world suddenly awakens, their outstretched arms lowering, and all shaking their heads wondering what just happend. Lost in TIME and SPACE they were/ and until....

Now back more on track. Our interpretation appears to be that these "Beings of Light" which are invading ARE US. And been in control for a while. As we are creatures formed around FOUNDER by OUR STAR (Sun). So we have misinterpreted what a "Being of light" is via loose understanding. But the real important part, is that as WE are the beings of LIGHT, these invaders are BEINGS OF ENERGY more like. Energy we dont understand. I also wonder how our "Sunlight" is affecting their invading signal, which is why they are most potent I fear when we are not out in the DAYLIGHT, cause then you have ONLY the energy emitted from your DIGITAL LIGHTS in the sockets in your lamps to influence us. Consider now too the "Geo Engineering" going on where Govt planes are spraying stuff at high altitude. I have even heard at some point some kind of nickel and barium components and because the notion is that it will BLOCK this invading energy. Again, what good is that when its now on our powerline infrastructure and comming in thru lightbulbs even..!! Tits on a bore hog perhaps indeed.. Time will tell..

I also now think of the notion I had about how while Einstein stated "noting can travel faster than the speed of light". So this is where he fell apart. And this was really a COP-OUT that no one was qualified to detect, as we could barely see what he was saying. He Spoofed us, and maybe himself unknowingly... But WHAT Definition of "Light" was he referring to. The LIGHT PARTICLE visible light, OR the light particle Gamma RAYs, or the "ENERGY PARTICLE" which is who knows WHAT is really moving across MATTER. While a solar flare from the suns gamma rays only take three days to get here from the sun, and visible light takes how long? Years I think. Well this is a pretty difference forecast as to HOW FAST light speed actually is LiMITED..!! So someone somewhere is pulling a pretty good trick right?? And now consider, these energy transmissions which may be affecting us from who knows where (most likely another Dimension) are "Traveling" How fast? On an INSTANT as we understand TIME.. I also now point our what I believe was a big failure the other day when I stated lightheartedly that "perhaps TIME is the ONLY Constant". I was wrong I think in that TIME is the BIGGEST DYNAMIC VARIABLE of ALL, as MATTER is the true universal constant, TIME is the VARIABLE Governed by Energy Interaction with MATTER. This is what MODULATES the "SPACE BETWEEN"... and Dimensional Travel Me thinks!

@ FLENSER TOO - This is a point which Now also moving back a page or two when I proposed a vision I had for a movie script. In which movie the premise was that we as an ANT FARM were put here to service another alien being, and as an ANALOG Entertainment Platform for them. Like an afternoon at the movies as their TIME RELATIVE, but lifetimes for us. As he jokes about me being an alien, or him being an alien, then he says "Not Seeing one", and think of my notion about 'invisible dimensional ENERGY Invaders" Now wonder if he was saying that he knows Greys and other exist, but he is saying that ET as we know it, ARE NOT ALIENS - as they are TOO Analog. Analog being of our dimension in this relative description. So while a Grey or Reptilian can be REAL FACT, and our GENETIC FATHERS, they are ANALOG and of our dimension - THUS LIABLE to this EXTRA-DIMENSIONAL INVADER riding this energy form unknown.. So then we are brothers with them and more importantly ALL AT EQUAL RISK TO THEM.!!! Hence we are now done with our squabbling and hunkering down in trenches together to fight for our survival like black and whites becoming brothers in Vietnam...! THE IRONY now being that just as their is always gonna be someone bigger and badder on the block at some TIME, Greys being our fathers just found out WHO that badder mutherF'R is.. and are scrambling to prep for war!!! The Children me and YOU, now evolving to an ASSET to greys, as our particular form now providing them with capabilities they did not have, and due to the unique Final product which we have evolved to which now realizes an ASSET to Greys. Surprise Greys!!! & CONGRATS - You did it...!!! Give that kid an A+ on his Martian 5th grade science project...! So just like this ant farm evolved to what Greys never forsaw (IE Experiment); YOU, ME, Greys, Reptilians, Whites and ALL being a DIMENSIONAL EXPERIMENT of this Energy Alien from another Dimension have now evolved to what THEY did NOT Expect..! And we all want to SURVIVE and PRIMARY LIFE OPERAND-UM... So we fight.

The POINT being that NOT ONLY are WE Martian (Grey) DNA amongst other ET of this dimension, thus WE ARE THEM. We are ALSO this other MASTER Inter-dimensional Beings at the same time. As not to due BIOLOGICAL RELATION, which is NATURAL, ORGANIC, and of THIS ANALOG DIMENSION, but we ARE at the same time these controlling "Plebians", but just "unnaturally". So it aint right anymore, but on a different level which NO "GOD" fairly applies / hence Dimensional and GOD governing our ANALOG Existence...! And they too want their science project back. The difference being that THEY did not INCEPT or CREATE this project with includes US and OUR ET, they came as conquerors and STOLE what WAS...! More like "Hi-jacked"...! So now you see the true "Gravity" of this situation which is already ensuing!! Because we all know A hijacker has NO CONCERN for individuals, or entire groups for that matter. They have ONLY their interest, which is ALWAYS varied from OURz (ET & US). No COMMON THREADS EXISTS. In fact, the entire premise of their motive is DESTRUCTION if they cant get their way. The fail safe "write-off" if they loose control...! Now picture the premise of the movie MATRIX and envision the way the AGENTS could pop in anywhere they wanted at any time, and wonder if this could happen to a Grey flying around over his heard, as he was just overtaken and controlled.!

You know I often think of that nuclear weapon that video of the ICBM soaring into orbit and the ET Craft that started flying around it and hit it with three beams. I interpret the Fist shot to disarm our CONTROL, the second to STEAL/EXTRACT the energy load (plutonium), and the third beam to send it falling harmlessly to Earth INEFFECTIVE... And clearly we were testing their omnipotent power over us in denial, and they were saying sit the fuck down bitch..!! You then think of the reports and stories of ET Craft hovering over military ICBM installations and turning shit on as to present a launch occuring out of our control, and all to shut back down/ as to say- Ok, here's another lesson for ya you crazy, over cocky, never learning bastards. Now the conscious failure to draw these lines is due to the way our memories work. As they give the whole picture but dont even know or realize they have. Cause in other shows about these same occurrences, they speak of weapons just coming up with all the "active Ingredients" just removed, and with no one even turning a single screw. So WHEN YOU CONNECT THE DOTS, what really happened at these military missile installations is that not only were all he missiles temp armed and shut down, but ET ALSO made off with all the plutonium in all the rockets just chuckling as he sped away and slapp'n high fives... Ahh, the simple pleasures still exist up there it seems... LOL... What I find comforting in all of this is that ET (our daddies) DO CARE about us. Because if a power strong enough to DESTROY YOU Does NOT, then they MUST want you to survive. There can be no other way and the answer is either TRUE or FALSE at the most fundamental LOGIC LEVEL...!

TO ANSWER YOUR THOUGHT and without even glimpsing the article..
Yes, I think consciousness is a DIRECT RESULT or REPRESENTATION of MATTER and how it RESONATES RELATIVE to Other matter. But a FACTOR and FACET, and NOT WHAT it is.. The MATTER simply Governs how CONSCIOUSNESS relates to the MATTER. Again a Cycle or Circle.... And that cycle governed by what is going on between the lines, AKA - THE-SPACE-BETWEEN...!

could consciousness be just a state of matter? max tegmark seem to think so.
just throwing it out there.

www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/physicists-say-consciousness-might-be-a-state-of-matter

medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/why-physicists-are-saying-consciousness-is-a-state-of-matter-like-a-solid-a-liquid-or-a-gas-5e7ed624986d

arxiv.org/abs/1401.1219

 

[BBC3]

I think you are correct in your hunch and the Law of ZERO SUM GAME, also known as Energy must balance/cannot be created or destroy, but only changes forms or LOCATIONS does APPLY. HOWEVER WOULD NOT if there we OTHER DIMENSIONS INVOLVED obviously. This could also related and potentially be explained when you consider that the universe, eternity, is constantly expanding, which is reverse PROOFED by what we call VACUUM... Which would mean that someone is pumpin in some "Energy" from another DIMENSION..!!!! We SEE IT, but cant realize we see it, because we can see the ever expanding BOUNDARIES or ETERNITY "Growing"..

Its like I said though, you can also readily PROVE the EXPANSION of MATTER ETERNAL by changing your PARADIGM. In short we are looking in the wrong place. Telescopes, Searching for the walls, etc.. When all along and AS USUAL, the truth is "right in front of our eyes". So the way you find out the BIGGER Picture, is that it is ALWAYS EASIER to EXAMINE the SMALLER PICTURE. Which is the sidewalk we stand, or better yet the tiny atoms under our scopes. Because if you are looking for what you can no have a wide enough birth to ever find the edges of, you must now look where you KNOW you can see Edges/perimeters. So the SMALLER we look in REVERSE THOUGH, the MORE ACCURATE WE HAVE FOR REAL PHYSICAL REVIEW on context. Because for something to expand and grow ANYWHERE, there must be expansion and growth EVERYWHERE. The TRICK is actualizing the Correct measurement SCALE so as to be able to VISUALIZE the PRINCIPLE which you are attempting to QUANTIFY. So first, correct QUALIFICATION is A MUST..!!! Else you are Counting ORANGES when you THINK you are counting the apples you wanted to COUNT...!

So now change your paradigm, and recognize what I am saying, and you can now prove what you think can never be proved, and easy as PIE...! That magic act will be SEEING where the extra-dimensional Energy Injection is occurring. The SOLUTION to this lies in EXPANSION, but again not realizing there are no BOUNDARIES. So with all that said Consider when we SEE energy never destroyed, take a residential air conditioning system as it clearly is only TRANSFERRED or moved from one place to another. Now consider that this ENERGY DISPLACEMENT is truly moving MATTER from one CONFINE to another CONFINE. NOW pretend the walls of your house are DEFINITE and NOW breathing or interacting with outside. The doors never get opened per say. Now consider to DISPLACE this MATTER, ENERGY in the house again rises even though things are sealed and separated. So where does it come from?!! Thus the proof that ENERGY is BEING INJECTED from somewhere we dont understand. Now you could start trying to debunk what I am saying and talk about the body generating heat energy, or solar energy coming thru windows and walls, but NOW What is GENERATING THAT ENERGY. Where does it come from. So this is where the wheels again fall off the logic bus, and we start to PHILOSOPHIZE what we can not TOUCH or FEEL. but truly cause we dont KNOW. This is proof of EXOGENOUS ENERGY INJECTION to OUR DIMENSION, and via ultimately the infinite expanding UNIVERSE which we can't qauntify, as we can't see the borders to WATCH it grow...!! So THIS, is the proof of this law of matter and energy being FALSE.. And look to the smallest example under a microscope, and you now have the SAME CONCEPT of the Universal Perimeters, but just in a form which we can now see, touch, feel, interact with. Which while is SEEMS like this is "All" we have to work with. IT IS EVERYTHING YOU NEED...!!!!

I tend to agree with the concept, but I will be surprised if they are ever able to prove it definitively. The flow of information is nearly impossible to measure in physical terms. A thought invoked from outside the physical universe might not even violate the law of conservation of energy from any possible observer's perspective, since there could be an exchange of equal energy.

 

[BBC3]

Looks are deceiving is you are not TRAINED to know what you are looking at...!

Yes, Thomas Edison was an alien. read my last few posts. The question is WHO is working thru him!!!! I now suspect it is extra-dimensional beings that work thru all of us, Earthlings & ET. WE ET's ant farm, and proven by the fact that we master, breed, control, and raise ANTs on FARMS.. So then ET is closer to the Energy Beings from other dimensions, and helpless to them same as we are. We are all off the leash to prevent what the goal of their experiment was, which is to PHYSICALLY TRANSCEND and travel dimensions.

You ARE an Alien, Same as ME. While Children of Greys and Reptilians and other ANALOG Beings in this dimension, we now try to survive which is what we have evolved to do. Which DOES NOT CORRELATE with the energy beings intention of their experiment. In short, to Energy beings, we are a nuclear reactor out of control.

When you start to ask questions, real educated questions based on what you are privy to. You hit a wall. This is where EXTRAPOLATION COME IN PLAY. While the notion seems sci-fi and not true because we have not been told it is. This is where you step out of the box and realize that you have just correlated KNOW FACTS in a manner to SHOW YOU the next logical progression, you EXTRAPOLATED. The fact that extrapolation is based on facts which have a REAL VECTOR, is the PROOF that your EXTRAPOLATION is indeed EQUALS TRUE...! The Misnomer that Extrapolation does not work originates from the PARADOX that if we cant see it or touch it, we cant BELIEVE IT. When all along the PROOF of this being false is that NEW IDEAS EMERGE EVERY SINGLE DAY...! So look around you. LOOK "UP" or Forward. WHAT is it you SEE. Its right there in front on you... Right there on the path you walk. Your training is simply getting in the way. Take off those glasses which were build by another, CLOSE YOUR EYES. NOW.... You can truly SEE....!

And I would LOVE to know what you do. I heard enough of what you have said to know that you are incredibly trained and therefore qualified for some incredible feats of work. Which is also why I am so impressed that you took interest in my work. It helps to give me meaning, as even though I know we are not in the ILLUSION of CONTROL... But I know is not the time and place for this. Perhaps someday.. But I can tell you I am very excited with where I am right now. Its incredible..

I think you would need to show me an alien for me to take this very seriously, preferably one that doesn't look like Thomas Edison!

If you knew the kinds of things we design where I work, you might think I'm involved with them as well.

 

[BBC3]

So I have been preaching CONSCIOUSNESS lately and WHERE am I / DO I - gain privy to all this new knowledge...? You have, many of you have, seen me grow and progress here from birth of BABY in mid 2000's and to the MONSTER I have become. I don't know if I care for it either. I just know it is and it is becoming a bitch. I did not wish for this. It just happened. That destiny crap and all. Fate is the thorn in the ass you pick up in the seat on the ride there... So where is it all coming from you wonder...?

I have had the fortune to stumble on some serious consciousness expansion techniques which I plan to share with you all. They DO NOT even require drugs for that matter - but don't get bummed out yet. Drugs can assist for sure. So what I am going to do as opposed to SPOON FEEDING YOU the methods to GROW YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS, is that I am going to provide you the ways in which you DEFEAT conscious Expansion and which happen every day. You got to earn some things you know..

I have discerned so far (2) methods which we use to prevent conscious expansion. And via TWO VECTORS. The two vectors are as follows..:

1) Internal SUB-Conscious self defense.
2) Intentional CONSCIOUS DEFENSE...

*** Keep in mind that GROWTH HURTS and can hurt REAL BAD, keep this in mind as you proceed with CAUTION HERE FORWARD...!

I will provide at this time (1) Method from each vector/facet as just listed above.

These things happen when dealing with CONCEPTS which we are NOT EQUIPPED CONSCIOUSLY TO HANDLE. So we BLOCK THE EXPERIENCE. Hence we remain locked to RESONATE at out existing Conscious Harmonic Level..

From #1 Above, the Sub-conscious protective method which we are NOT AWARE of or in CONTROL of really (unless aware / NOW you R)..

- FINGERNAIL BITING - Now have you ever noticed most stop biting them after that end of the conscious growth phase which is usually marked with PUBERTY/Age 12. What exactly was going on when we were biting those nails. THINK ABOUT IT. You don't have a clue do you.. Else someone (mother) would not have been snapping her fingers in your face to AWAKEN YOU from this trance and tell you to stop. So what was happening then is that when your mind was dealing with a conscious context of a nature you could not yet handle, or not grown yet to handle. You BITE NAILS to send your mind to oblivion to take away that PAIN of KNOWING. Hence its a method to BLOCK GROWTH. Self protective.. There's more too.

** NOW I will offer an Example from the above TWO VECTORS which is SELF IMPOSED with some Conscious design to prevent growth...

From #2 Above, the PRO-conscious protective method which we ARE AWARE of or in CONTROL of really (PERHAPS aware / NOW you R)..

- GRITING TEETH/ That shit eatin Look... You know the one... When someone is telling you something you don't want to hear.. Better yet, now envision what someones face look like when you tell them something they can't handle, or they get news that they cant handle and WANT TO IGNORE OR BLOCK OUT. They get that SHIT EATIN TEETH GRIND LOOK. Right...!??! Right!! They are completely BLOCKING The information from soaking into their HARD FUCKING SKULLS at this point right. So now you see, its more like "HARDENED SOULS".. Or LOCKED SOULS....

NOW - I am going to toss in a FreeBee at this time that I was not planning to.

There is a MASTER Set to all this which I will expound upon later. The MASTER SET is PAIN. Or PLEASURE. They are one in the same. It is with this information that you can not start to piece together the PUZZLE I LAY BEFORE YOU...

Now WHY do some folks have what is truly a RANDOM CHANCE (I believe at this TIME) to STUMBLE UPON this POWER and KNOWLEDGE? Take the finger nail biter. What was the one thing that awoke him from his trance of most pleasureful BITING if MOMMY was not there to Bitch Slap his hand from mouth...? It was tugging one too fucking DEEP and Drawing Own Blood. It is in this MILLI_SECOND in TIME which Growth occurred accidentally and beyond control. It was random chance, FATE, and Destiny. Because in fact, while he was working so hard to stop the wheels of TIME from AWAKENING his MATTER to higher RESONANCE, It was working so hard to get thru by the TIME that the Bleed occurred, the this single second in time now CASCADES MULTITUDES IN REAL CONSCIOUS VALUE, and more got in during this single MOMENT that would have been absorbed had he intentionally tried to grow...!!!



** So time, matter, energy, space, all SYNC as ONE POWERFUL FORCE but just for a moment- Thus PROOF a MOMENT CAN EQUATE TO AN ETERNITY FOR SOME. But what just happened. THEY BLED TOGETHER... Hence the BLOOD WAS DRAW. The PAIN OF GROWTH. Starting to GET IT...!?

So you now SEE NOW where...:

- What we THOUGHT was Pleasure, was REALLY DISTRACTION.

- What we THOUGHT was PAIN, was REALLY GROWTH.

- All along as I have been saying they are one in the same and if you stretch a line out in TIME on this VECTOR of thought and REALIZE these two sides to this COIN, you now see there is NO DIFFERENCE in WHAT the Two ARE(pleasure & Pain). The only real difference is the ENERGY LEVEL ACHIEVED or How Far you are out on this line...!
And but HOW to MERGE and BLEED to Head and TAILS together for that moment which you now SEE - Is EVERYTHING...

- The POT LUCK Was the COINCIDENCE of BOTH to occur PROXIMATE IN TIME with RELATIVE VALUE TO YOU. The only VARIABLE.

- The MAGIC TRICK you now see is finding ways to effect this INTENTIONALLY. And without being put in an ASYLUM for CUTTING....!

Now reaD that last sentence again, and now wonder WHAT really is going on in the mind of a "mentally Ill Cutter", or a Catatonic Autistic. And KNOW NOW that they are simply traveling thru TIME AND Across MATTER. You know have the POWER to understand that KNOWLEDGE is to BRIDGE the SPACE BETWEEN...! The BRIDGE is the ENERGY INPUT TO INCREASE THE SOUL's Resonate Harmonic Balance...

Damn....! I am a fuking alien...!

!!!!! Why is it that I share all this first with my Brothers @ MESO.? It is because I want you to first understand a painful awakening that I have become aware of recently. YOU Are the Conscious Brains in this world as capable as any of achieving this growth with me. **** UNDERSTAND - I MUST RELEASE THE INFORMATION AT A CONTROLLED RATE / Else you will Make that shit eatin Look and go bite nail. I don't wan't that now Do I. Cause I am here to tell you it is fucking lonely at the TOP. I need some play pretties and I'm all out of applications to sift..! BUT- I am something much more than I ever dreamed or realized. I don't know what exactly yet. Perhaps a looney. But HOW is it I know these things. I got 20 bucks that says not a single one of you could come up with the information I just provided at one single source / Thus making ME the ORIGINAL GENUINE AUTHOR of SAID. I have said before - The BBC3 CAN NOT BE MIMIC'd, IMITATED, IMPERSONATED, or COUNTERFEITED/ If push come to test. Just ask if it's really me. I think you know I can always give the correct PASSWORD...!

For now I place my new professional title as = TIME LORD....

 

[dnoyez]

further down the rabit hole we go.

 

[BBC3]

The real mindbreaker is that ONCE we are lost - we are lost forever - short of diving enlightenment that is. But also once we are lost forever, THUS WE WERE ALREADY LOST. They expression "dead but just don't know it" ring a bell... A function of the true paradox - Time & Space...!

further down the rabit hole we go.

 

[dnoyez]

http://api.ning.com/files/XnT5wfGNAfP1siiv*RsillpdtP0jtRQeaHaedPptYCeIWggX*Q0pupgTEhyc5FaLm6iRhfeHLYwCGvyLYPk-mv6Gt0BUA36f/TheCodetotheMatrix.pdf

 

[dnoyez]

http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/documents/CUniverse1.pdf

 

[heady muscle]

Heidegger:
http://philpapers.org/rec/HEIOTW