Extremely low natty test at 18

[redeemthecard]

I had my test measured at 370 ng/dl. At 18. Fucking pathetic.

I don't know what the fuck to do. I'm mentally sinking.

I lift 6 times a week. Eat good food - about 2.2k calories +-100. (Trying to get lean, I'm a bit skinny fat.) Hit good macros every day.

Sleep nearly 9 hours every night, no exceptions. The only fucking thing I ever stress about is how I look.

I weigh about 170 pounds, moderately strong for an intermediate natty lifter, nothing impressive. Bench 225 for 1.

What are my fucking options? Blasting when I'm a fucking weakling makes me look even more like a bitch. Not blasting means I'll need years to achieve the average gym goer physique.

Do I just accept I'm genetic trash and keep working out for the sake of it?

 

[TRT]

I had my test measured at 370 ng/dl. At 18. Fucking pathetic.

I don't know what the fuck to do. I'm mentally sinking.

I lift 6 times a week. Eat good food - about 2.2k calories +-100. (Trying to get lean, I'm a bit skinny fat.) Hit good macros every day.

Sleep nearly 9 hours every night, no exceptions. The only fucking thing I ever stress about is how I look.

I weigh about 170 pounds, moderately strong for an intermediate natty lifter, nothing impressive. Bench 225 for 1.

What are my fucking options? Blasting when I'm a fucking weakling makes me look even more like a bitch. Not blasting means I'll need years to achieve the average gym goer physique.

Do I just accept I'm genetic trash and keep working out for the sake of it?

Post your blood work. Although that is low your free testosterone is really what matter but don’t that’s at 100 when total is 370. lol

 

[redeemthecard]

Post your blood work. Although that is low your free testosterone is really what matter but don’t that’s at 100 when total is 370. lol

the shithole of a lab only has free test when purchased in a package, which is too expensive lol, I'm not buying it.

wdym by "but don't that's at 100"? I'm confused.

 

[TRT]

the shithole of a lab only has free test when purchased in a package, which is too expensive lol, I'm not buying it.

wdym by "but don't that's at 100"? I'm confused.

Wow I chopped that all up.
Sorry thought free test range was 30-100 it’s clearly higher. That just means I confused you even more. lol

I was trying to say that your free test isn’t all that matters. I’d tell you to look at your free test to see where it’s at but if your total is 370 I doubt it’s high enough to be in range. Hey, you never know. I have first hand knowledge of guys who have trained their whole lives and look great and their test level was 430ish.

 

[TRT]

All joking aside I gotta tell ya. I’m sure I was in a worse situation than you are now at 18. I was 134lbs 5’10 and had already been training since…idk 15? Started to take things more serious at 19 and by 23 I had guys who were known juice heads coming up to me saying “Ah got bit by a little mosquito I see.” I knew what they meant but I hadn’t touched anything at that point.

Give it time. Use that concern for how you look as fuel and drive in the gym and outside of the gym. You’re on the right track. There’s good threads on here for food and training. You might wanna visit those and ask questions.

 

[Cyp180]

If you have this data, you can calculate free T

Free & Bioavailable Testosterone calculator

 

[Dohtem22]

You had one test. One snapshot into your body at that specific moment. It does not mean you have low T….Multiple factors can play into why it was 370 (not that low really). Sounds like money is tight so you won’t be checking numerous times. …

Therefore, If you’re just looking for a reason to stick yourself with a needle for the rest of your life. Then do it. Technically you’re an adult. Shortcut?! Right?

However, if money is tight… how are you going to afford everything you need + testing if you want to do this “safe”?

Keep training hard, stay active, and eat healthy. Stress about those things because that is what will you a physique that you don’t stress over

You don’t need any drugs or hormones. But you’re on this website which means you’re probably going to go with drugs and hormones

 

[TRT]

If you have this data, you can calculate free T

Free & Bioavailable Testosterone calculator

You don’t think that some times there are people who are outside of the standard conversion amount?

 

[redeemthecard]

You had one test. One snapshot into your body at that specific moment. It does not mean you have low T….Multiple factors can play into why it was 370 (not that low really). Sounds like money is tight so you won’t be checking numerous times. …

Therefore, If you’re just looking for a reason to stick yourself with a needle for the rest of your life. Then do it. Technically you’re an adult. Shortcut?! Right?

However, if money is tight… how are you going to afford everything you need + testing if you want to do this “safe”?

Keep training hard, stay active, and eat healthy. Stress about those things because that is what will you a physique that you don’t stress over

You don’t need any drugs or hormones. But you’re on this website which means you’re probably going to go with drugs and hormones

It doesn't mean I have low T, yet I experience most of the symptoms.

I don't even get that morning wood so much anymore. I used to get solid fucking hard in the morning, I couldn't take a piss. I'd sleep like ~7 hours and wake up crazy bricked up. I don't know why that doesn't happen anymore, considering I've only improved my habits.

I've been working out for 2 years, progress is slow as fuck.

Low libido, anxiety, tired most of the time.

I literally can't look at the fucking mirror.

"Just looking for a reason to stick yourself" I literally have the test levels of a fucking 60 year old. What fucking shortcut? I'd need to pin myself with a fucking needle for the rest of my sad fucking life in order to compete with natties.

Great fucking shortcut, isn't it?

 

[redeemthecard]

All joking aside I gotta tell ya. I’m sure I was in a worse situation than you are now at 18. I was 134lbs 5’10 and had already been training since…idk 15? Started to take things more serious at 19 and by 23 I had guys who were known juice heads coming up to me saying “Ah got bit by a little mosquito I see.” I knew what they meant but I hadn’t touched anything at that point.

Give it time. Use that concern for how you look as fuel and drive in the gym and outside of the gym. You’re on the right track. There’s good threads on here for food and training. You might wanna visit those and ask questions.

You weren't much worse.

I've been giving it my all for 2 years, the gym has been the only thing I do that I take 100% completely serious.

It's barely noticeable I even work out. When someone asks me "Have you started working out" I'd just pretend to laugh it out knowing it's not funny, it's fucking sad wasting 2 years of my life for these results. I'd just reply "Rarely" or "Sometimes" because it'd be laughable.

 

[TRT]

It doesn't mean I have low T, yet I experience most of the symptoms.

I don't even get that morning wood so much anymore. I used to get solid fucking hard in the morning, I couldn't take a piss. I'd sleep like ~7 hours and wake up crazy bricked up. I don't know why that doesn't happen anymore, considering I've only improved my habits.

I've been working out for 2 years, progress is slow as fuck.

Low libido, anxiety, tired most of the time.

I literally can't look at the fucking mirror.

"Just looking for a reason to stick yourself" I literally have the test levels of a fucking 60 year old. What fucking shortcut? I'd need to pin myself with a fucking needle for the rest of my sad fucking life in order to compete with natties.

Great fucking shortcut, isn't it?

I understand these aren’t the things you wanna hear but 90% of the time it’s something people wish they were told who got on too early. There’s a community here and people who are going through the same stuff you are or did at one point. You’re not special in this situation.

 

[redeemthecard]

I understand these aren’t the things you wanna hear but 90% of the time it’s something people wish they were told who got on too early. There’s a community here and people who are going through the same stuff you are or did at one point. You’re not special in this situation.

What would you recommend me to do?

Picking up the needle is the last thing I want to do. I just don't see a choice, it's either the needle or keep being a fucking loser.

I'm not special, far from it.

 

[BigDadd7]

I had my test measured at 370 ng/dl. At 18. Fucking pathetic.

I don't know what the fuck to do. I'm mentally sinking.

I lift 6 times a week. Eat good food - about 2.2k calories +-100. (Trying to get lean, I'm a bit skinny fat.) Hit good macros every day.

Sleep nearly 9 hours every night, no exceptions. The only fucking thing I ever stress about is how I look.

I weigh about 170 pounds, moderately strong for an intermediate natty lifter, nothing impressive. Bench 225 for 1.

What are my fucking options? Blasting when I'm a fucking weakling makes me look even more like a bitch. Not blasting means I'll need years to achieve the average gym goer physique.

Do I just accept I'm genetic trash and keep working out for the sake of it?

At 170 pounds, you don't need to cut. You may be skinny fat, but the problem is no muscle. Stop with the genetic trash excuse- that's for incels and losers. Get a better workout program, maybe even a coach. Make your workouts count. And eat more until you pack on some real mass.

 

[Duraclear]

Dude, chill. This number means nothing. Absolutely nothing. I spent most of my life in the 400-500 range before I went on TRT, and I was jacked. This isn't my own opinion. People constantly let me know. Now that I'm on TRT and my total test hovers around 1,000, I honestly don't look all that much different. The main difference is that I'm able to get a little leaner without losing as much muscle as I used to.

The total test number really doesn't mean a lot. I've known very jacked guys who had total test levels in your range. There are a ton of other factors going on, such as androgen receptor number/sensitivity, etc.

You're doing just fine. 225 for 1 is awesome and something most men in this world can't do. You're not "genetic trash." Your option is to man up, stay the course, and keep doing the best you can. Don't screw with gear at 18. Absolutely not worth potentially screwing up your HPTA for life for temporary gains, especially when it's not obvious at all that there's an actual problem here.

 

[Cyp180]

What would you recommend me to do?

Picking up the needle is the last thing I want to do. I just don't see a choice, it's either the needle or keep being a fucking loser.

I'm not special, far from it.

Go see the doctor. When you are 18 and this low readings ?

 

[ZyzzLegend]

It doesn't mean I have low T, yet I experience most of the symptoms.

I don't even get that morning wood so much anymore. I used to get solid fucking hard in the morning, I couldn't take a piss. I'd sleep like ~7 hours and wake up crazy bricked up. I don't know why that doesn't happen anymore, considering I've only improved my habits.

I've been working out for 2 years, progress is slow as fuck.

Low libido, anxiety, tired most of the time.

I literally can't look at the fucking mirror.

"Just looking for a reason to stick yourself" I literally have the test levels of a fucking 60 year old. What fucking shortcut? I'd need to pin myself with a fucking needle for the rest of my sad fucking life in order to compete with natties.

Great fucking shortcut, isn't it?

If I were you I’d start with bloodwork first so you actually know what’s going on: total and free test, SHBG, E2 (sensitive), prolactin, DHEA-S, and if you can add LH and FSH even better. I wouldn’t waste time on “test booster” supplements like tongkat or fadogia because they usually don’t move the needle much. If your SHBG is high then boron 6–10mg a day is a simple thing to try and see if you feel any difference. If none of that helps and you still feel off, I’d try enclomiphene first at 3–6mg daily for a couple weeks and see how you respond, and ideally retest after. Some people feel amazing on it even at low doses. If you don’t feel good on enclo and you’re truly ready for the responsibility of TRT, then I’d go testosterone next, starting low, injecting more frequently to keep things stable, and checking labs after about 6 weeks. And since you’re only 18, I’d definitely run HCG with it so you don’t wreck fertility or lose testicular size, especially if libido and morning wood are already a big issue.

 

[redeemthecard]

Go see the doctor. When you are 18 and this low readings ?

No endocrinolog will ever prescribe me test at 370. It's in the lower bracket, but not enough to go on TRT. Atleast in my country, that is.

 

[Astartes]

It doesn't mean I have low T, yet I experience most of the symptoms.

I don't even get that morning wood so much anymore. I used to get solid fucking hard in the morning, I couldn't take a piss. I'd sleep like ~7 hours and wake up crazy bricked up. I don't know why that doesn't happen anymore, considering I've only improved my habits.

I've been working out for 2 years, progress is slow as fuck.

Low libido, anxiety, tired most of the time.

I literally can't look at the fucking mirror.

"Just looking for a reason to stick yourself" I literally have the test levels of a fucking 60 year old. What fucking shortcut? I'd need to pin myself with a fucking needle for the rest of my sad fucking life in order to compete with natties.

Great fucking shortcut, isn't it?

Couple things here for you to consider.

Your test is low normal. You don’t have test of a 60 year old. Rest assured. You also don’t know if you hit on a low excretion day.

The problem with natty testing is it can fluctuate widely day to day… hour to hour and with diet, sleep, stress, overtraining, time of day, etc.

You won’t know what your true baseline is until you have had a few tests and averaged results out.

I would worry less about about this and more about overtraining, which is common with guys who want to gain weight. Diet, Routine.

If you are determined to go the AAS route just be honest with yourself. Don’t lie to yourself. Choose to do it, and do it intelligently.

Start with test only first couple years.

Know that as you ramp up compounds and dosing you will very quickly be in a position where TRT is required, even at your young age.

Understand the problem first.

 

[redeemthecard]

I wouldn’t waste time on “test booster” supplements like tongkat or fadogia

Yeah, I've looked into "test boosters" that are natural herbs, but it's mostly just cope sold for the purpose of profit

 

[TRT]

What would you recommend me to do?

Picking up the needle is the last thing I want to do. I just don't see a choice, it's either the needle or keep being a fucking loser.

I'm not special, far from it.

I already told you. Get into the threads here on food and training. If it’s not working you’re missing something. Read all the training threads. READ THEM ALL. All the threads and you’ll have the answer you’re looking for.
You also gotta remember that the average person gains 2-5lbs of lean mass a year.
Keep giving it 100%. You got nothing to loose and only muscle to gain.