Astartes
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Almost exclusively bullshit, don’t bother with them
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Extremely low natty test at 18
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TRT
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Ya start with 100mg not a blown out cycle. Lol
To be honest if he is low 100mg would get him right.
On 12.7nmol/L you are on the low end. Some labs do 12-35nmol/L others do 8 6-29nmolL (248–836ng/dL) i know more men had sides on 12nmol/L and got TRT by Urologist/Endo. Go to your doc when having sides and do more tests every 6 weeks
you don’t have low t. But rationalize why you have to use drugs anyway you want lol
Textmaxxing is all the jazz these days, right?
Anyways- I Started working in January. I was convinced my
T levels were low and that’s why I was fat and out of shape. Had a plan to use PEDs and take the shortcut. Results came back and it was 500…oh
At that time I could bench 185 for 0.
Lost 30 pounds from April to July
Test levels dropped to the 200s- did not want TRT as I knew it was from the deficit I was eating in.
No steroids / orals / sarms
Currently benching 225 for 10 with T levels at your range currently. So Is it actually the T? or you?
With that said, you’re just lazy and don’t want to work hard to achieve anything. Just do the roids pal, it will make your life infinitely better
Textmaxxing is all the jazz these days, right?
Anyways- I Started working in January. I was convinced my
T levels were low and that’s why I was fat and out of shape. Had a plan to use PEDs and take the shortcut. Results came back and it was 500…oh
At that time I could bench 185 for 0.
Lost 30 pounds from April to July
Test levels dropped to the 200s- did not want TRT as I knew it was from the deficit I was eating in.
No steroids / orals / sarms
Currently benching 225 for 10 with T levels at your range currently. So Is it actually the T? or you?
With that said, you’re just lazy and don’t want to work hard to achieve anything. Just do the roids pal, it will make your life infinitely better
redeemthecard
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I don't think I'll ever do any AAS besides test. It all seems pointless to me - all I've ever wanted is a good looking natty physique. I value my health more than looking big while on cycle.
It's just that the way I look at things is that my test kind of dictates how much of a man I am. And with these levels I just don't like it lol.
You don't think test levels decline with every new generation? That these levels, while considered normal today, would be considered very low 20 years ago?
About training - I think I've got a nice program. Hit everything 2x a week besides legs (only once). Not more than 8 sets per muscle group per week, with rarely going to failure, I mostly hover in the RPE 7-8 range. Rarely try one rep maxes on anything, only when ego gets the best of me.
Diet - I get 140-150g of protein, about 200-250g of carbs, and less than 50g fat. If it helps, I had a lipid profile done a year ago(?) and everything was in check. HDL was in great ranges, don't remember exactly, but I can pull it up if anyone cares.
redeemthecard
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"Oh gee, look at me! It worked for me, why wouldn't it work for you? I mean, we're all the same at the end of the day, am I right?"
I'm telling you I've had nothing but suboptimal progress in 2+ years of working out. I'm obviously not going to start pinning immediately.
It's also extremely cringe when people use somethingmaxx terms lmfao
Step the F away from Tik Tok, bro. It's infecting your head with all kinds of weird ideas. Some arbitrary number dictates how much of a man you are? That's Tik Tok brain rot. It's not reality.
Seriously, get off your phone and go touch some grass. I'm dead serious. Your testosterone level is not the problem here.
Seriously, get off your phone and go touch some grass. I'm dead serious. Your testosterone level is not the problem here.
redeemthecard
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You don't think test levels matter?
Don't even have tiktok, or any social media for that matter.
"Tik Tok brain rot"
You don't think test levels matter?
Don't even have tiktok, or any social media for that matter.
"Tik Tok brain rot"
See my reply earlier in this thread. I've already stated that this number is meaningless. Take my advice and you will do well. Good luck, bro.
redeemthecard
New Member
Right, didn't notice it was the same person.
Yeah, I think I'll take the advice of a dude who joined last week rather than the obviously more knowledgeable users on here. Cheers for the priceless advice brah.
You don’t train hard enough and you want a shortcut. I’ll echo the previous poster about the putting the phone down.
If you want a good looking natty physique, build one. It doesn’t happen at the speed of drugs though.
Or (you’ve found a site that has everything you need) for a shortcut. Stop rationalizing and looking for validation from strangers on the internet and just do the test. Claim your natty and life will be better
Anyways. This thread has made me seriously question bringing children into this world. I wish OP the best and lifetime marriage to the syringe “to be a man”
If you want a good looking natty physique, build one. It doesn’t happen at the speed of drugs though.
Or (you’ve found a site that has everything you need) for a shortcut. Stop rationalizing and looking for validation from strangers on the internet and just do the test. Claim your natty and life will be better
Anyways. This thread has made me seriously question bringing children into this world. I wish OP the best and lifetime marriage to the syringe “to be a man”
redeemthecard
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The mentioned lifetime marriage to the syringe is just TRT lmfao. You ever been in a position where you train longer than someone else and he not only has a way better physique, but is also way stronger? Presume not.
If this makes you question having children you shouldn't have any.
Also the parentheses don't have to be there, it just bugs me.
You're not qualified to determine who is and isn't "obviously more knowledgeable." You'll take the advice of whoever tells you what you wanted to hear in the first place.
You're neurotic and mentally unwell. Gear ain't gonna fix that, and I'd bet money that you don't even get any results from it.
Like I said, good luck, "brah." I'm out.
redeemthecard
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You're wrong, though? I got told by a couple of users to focus on diet and training, and to not jump on TRT yet. You were just being unnecessarily hostile.
I'm being realistic. You expect me to jump with happiness that I've sub 400 test? Or are you the type of dude who loves to cope? Like hearing your relatives say "Oh you look great!" and you actually believe it? Yikes.
craigdt
Member
Dont blame genetics.
You are in charge of your body.
I was 5'11", 128lbs at 22 after being a college athlete.
Had basically been told I'll always look like a cross country runner and theres nothing I can do about it.
Until 15 years later, started tracking my calories and taking it seriously.
Now I'm 190lbs, and wish I had started this 15years ago.
Excuses are bullshit.
Eat an excess. Lift heavier. Push yourself. Increase your gym performance over time. Get plenty of recovery time.
Get a hobby. Find a purpose that is greater than yourself.
No one gives a shit about how you look in the mirror. Thats woman bullshit.
Time to grow up and determine your own fate.
You are in charge of your body.
I was 5'11", 128lbs at 22 after being a college athlete.
Had basically been told I'll always look like a cross country runner and theres nothing I can do about it.
Until 15 years later, started tracking my calories and taking it seriously.
Now I'm 190lbs, and wish I had started this 15years ago.
Excuses are bullshit.
Eat an excess. Lift heavier. Push yourself. Increase your gym performance over time. Get plenty of recovery time.
Get a hobby. Find a purpose that is greater than yourself.
No one gives a shit about how you look in the mirror. Thats woman bullshit.
Time to grow up and determine your own fate.
redeemthecard
New Member
Appreciate the reply, but what do you mean "until 15 years later" and "wish I had started 15 years ago"
Didn't you start 15 years ago? It's confusing.
bossetti
Member
bruv stay natty at ur age if u dgaf about making it in a sport
craigdt
Member
I was lazy for 15 years after college building my career and just assumed "why work harder to feel better, I'll always be a skinny dude, I've lifted for 6 straight years and never gained a pound"
Then 18 months ago I read a thread like this somewhere and someone said "you aren't skinny because of generics, you are skinny because you aren't eating enough and aren't training right"
It was just my way of giving an example of a message I needed to hear in order to reconstruct my mental framework regarding what I could achieve.
I started eating way more.
Started actually pushing myself in the gym.
Gained like 20 pounds and got a drastically different physique.
Then tested my test levels.
251. At age 37.
So I dont buy that you can't make gains or whatever at low test levels.
Anyways.
I was just saying: take control of your life. You CAN accomplish what you want. And your test levels aren't getting in your way.
Its your mentality.
PrinceofDarkness
New Member
bro go to a doc and tell him you have low t symptoms and to order a whole panel to check for test, free test, prolactin, estradiol, etc and make is LCMS to make it more accurate.
