Fast Acting Insulin Post Workout for Anabolic Effects

[VVV]

Hi guys, I'm considering taking a fast acting insulin after workouts only, together with a big PWO shake.
Total time maybe 3-4 weeks.
Would that make any sense? The idea is to build some muscle without the use of AAS.
Would you recommend against it, or should I check it out?
Thanks in advance for the feedback,
Mark

 

[skagitmaster]

If you don't know how to PCT according to your post looking for advice...you ain't got no fucking business using insulin.

 

[VVV]

Thank you for the rude remark -Bro Language, I guess...
Look I'm asking questions out of curiosity, because I want to learn. If it's a bad idea please say so and explain why, discuss it...no need to be a rude 'tough guy'.
If you insist then I'm sorry but I will not correspond with you any longer.

 

[Ozzy619]

Hi guys, I'm considering taking a fast acting insulin after workouts only, together with a big PWO shake.
Total time maybe 3-4 weeks.
Would that make any sense? The idea is to build some muscle without the use of AAS.
Would you recommend against it, or should I check it out?
Thanks in advance for the feedback,
Mark

Ive never used insulin so cant give you a 100% right answer. I have heard alot of people use it for the reason you decribed, but I dont know how much of it is bro science. They used to market a product called waxie maize that shuttled nutrients in a more efficient manner but I believe its bullshit. I suggest learning as much about insulin, @hotdog23 should know about this more.

If you don't know how to PCT according to your post looking for advice...you ain't got no fucking business using insulin.

I believe he posted in the wrong section as insulin would not be in a pct protocol. But good thing he came here asking questions before just injecting it.

 

[Ozzy619]

Btw where has hot diggity dog been? Havent seen that cat in minute

 

[skagitmaster]

Fuck I don't know...I'm too busy looking at your avatar @Ozzy619

 

[MrRippedZilla]

You would need to take a massive dose (not a good idea in one go) and use it for MUCH longer than 3-4 weeks.

In the usual 5-10ius that most guys seem to use its a complete waste of time and money without high dosed anabolics & GH to accompany it.

 

[VVV]

OK thanks a lot @Ozzy619 and @MrRippedZilla
OK I definitely wouldn't want to use massive doses for a long time...
I looked a lot into the insulin thing and it seems relatively safe if you know what you're doing, eg using fast acting at the right times and always be prepared, etc. But using a lot for a long time sounds like trouble, and body fat.

My whole idea is to get some good effects without shutting down my hpta. Albutereol comes to mind? https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/albuterol/

Why am I worried about shutting down the hpta? TRT is not too far down the road for me, but maybe, hopefully, not quite necessary yet.
I'd be worried that, by shutting things down now they might not fully recover and I'd have to go on TRT before my time whether I want to or not.
Fertility is also a concern.

I am seriously considering a Primo only cycle, but am holding off as yet exhausting all other options first. Primo because it shuts down mildly and recovery is easy and fast.
Nolvadex afterwards should kickstart things nicely, at least according to your guy's feedback here and other sources.

But first, maybe Albuterol? Insulin seems a bad idea then? What say you, @hotdog23 ?

Thanks a bunch everybody, very helpful and constructive, I appreciate your help!

 

[pumpingiron22]

Insulin is a dangerous game. And needs to be timed on point. This is really only for high level bb'er.
There is one insulin lantus that keeps a steady level of glucose.
For anyone that does try it I would have some monitor them as fast acting acts fast but effects could last up to 5 hrs. Different kinds different times. You should know what you're doing. Just start with a low dose test cycle. No need for fancy stuff and remember less is more have a ai and pct on hand.

 

[ThE SiCkNeSs]

OK thanks a lot @Ozzy619 and @MrRippedZilla
OK I definitely wouldn't want to use massive doses for a long time...
I looked a lot into the insulin thing and it seems relatively safe if you know what you're doing, eg using fast acting at the right times and always be prepared, etc. But using a lot for a long time sounds like trouble, and body fat.

My whole idea is to get some good effects without shutting down my hpta. Albutereol comes to mind? https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/albuterol/

Why am I worried about shutting down the hpta? TRT is not too far down the road for me, but maybe, hopefully, not quite necessary yet.
I'd be worried that, by shutting things down now they might not fully recover and I'd have to go on TRT before my time whether I want to or not.
Fertility is also a concern.

I am seriously considering a Primo only cycle, but am holding off as yet exhausting all other options first. Primo because it shuts down mildly and recovery is easy and fast.
Nolvadex afterwards should kickstart things nicely, at least according to your guy's feedback here and other sources.

But first, maybe Albuterol? Insulin seems a bad idea then? What say you, @hotdog23 ?

Thanks a bunch everybody, very helpful and constructive, I appreciate your help!

Is that you in your avatar? Might not want your face on this board associated with these things. Oh yea, holy fucking neck, that neck is way to big for that head.

 

[naturalkon]

There is a way to use insulin, but it's tricky and takes some playing with. And I wouldn't even bother with it unless you're taking growth along side it. But if used correctly it works very well. First time I tried it I almost killed myself so be careful.

 

[naturalkon]

The mad scientist and sarcev have some in depth interviews on gear'd up podcast. As well as Matt porter. They all have put 30 pounds of stage weight on someone in one cycle. Thanks to slin.

 

[Serpent]

OK thanks a lot @Ozzy619 and @MrRippedZilla
OK I definitely wouldn't want to use massive doses for a long time...
I looked a lot into the insulin thing and it seems relatively safe if you know what you're doing, eg using fast acting at the right times and always be prepared, etc. But using a lot for a long time sounds like trouble, and body fat.

My whole idea is to get some good effects without shutting down my hpta. Albutereol comes to mind? https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/albuterol/

Why am I worried about shutting down the hpta? TRT is not too far down the road for me, but maybe, hopefully, not quite necessary yet.
I'd be worried that, by shutting things down now they might not fully recover and I'd have to go on TRT before my time whether I want to or not.
Fertility is also a concern.

I am seriously considering a Primo only cycle, but am holding off as yet exhausting all other options first. Primo because it shuts down mildly and recovery is easy and fast.
Nolvadex afterwards should kickstart things nicely, at least according to your guy's feedback here and other sources.

But first, maybe Albuterol? Insulin seems a bad idea then? What say you, @hotdog23 ?

Thanks a bunch everybody, very helpful and constructive, I appreciate your help!

Primo only? Test should be used every cycle no matter what.
In regards to the fear of shutting down, I was also like that. Planning on doing just growth hormone and maybe insulin so I would avoid all the unwanted androgenic affects test would give (which were very much hyped) My advice is do a 12-14 week cycle test 500mg and monitor your LH and FSH with blood work since fertility concerns you. There isn't really science backing up steroids=infertility by the way. I might be wrong on this but I'm 80% sure

 

[Dr JIM]

About the only time I believe the use of insulin MAY be justifiable is in PRO BB who are actively competing AND using GH. The reason is relatively straight forward. the anabolic effects of GH/IGF are best realized when insulin is used. (In fact, in the absence of insulin the anabolic effects from GH are paltry at best)

I'm not referring to the 3-4 IUs of GH many Meso members are using but at least 10IU/day, bc at that level of GH supplementation endogenous insulin production may not "match" the increased demand which occurs bc of accelerated hepatic IGF production.

Otherwise the risks associated with insulin use are far to high, especially for noobs!
If "you" or anyone else is looking for answers on AAS forums about how to best use insulin, YOU SHOULD NOT BE USING IT, PERIOD!