CyniQ said:
Then this is not going to be any fun.
I didn't intend it to be fun between you and I. I already knew your stance. I'm still waiting for someone to say that they believe in fate.
While I wait for that, I'll throw out some food for though. Assuming that there is such a thing as fate(all event are predetermined) then we can not fault anyone for anything they do. If a guy kills 34 people in a PCP induced, pyschedelic, uzi toting rage, we can no more punish him for his actions than we can hold him accountable. Why? Because he is not repsonsible for them. The "Fates" wove that particular strand into their web. Not his fault.
Similarly, the sentiment that "everything happens for a reason" is also silly. It's true, Bill died BECAUSE he was struck by a truck. That is "the reason." However, to imply that it happened because it's "part of God's plan" or something is silly. If people are endowed with free will, then theere can be no fate.
In love, there is no such thing as a "soul mate". There can be no one particular person that you are destined or "supposed" to be with because that would mean that all of life is scripted.
There can also not be any individual cases of fate. For instance, Jimmy can not be fated to run Billy over on March 12th, 2004, but not fated to do anything else in his life. This is because everyone else would have to be fated to perform the actions that they did on that particular day.
Jimmy was fated to hit billy because his children(Jimmy's) were fated to wake up late that morning and miss the bus which caused Jimmy to have to drive his kids to school, which was why he was speeding. Billy was fated to be at the intersektion of A st. and B st. because the night before his girlfriend was fated to lock her keys in her car while she was following her predetermined fate of getting really drunk on the shots that Fred was fated to buy her since he was fated to lose his job at the factory which was predetermined to close because the market for widgets was fated to fail at that particular time. Etc. ad naseum.
Well, even if no one else is participating, I still have fun talking to myself. It's about the best conversation I'm likely to find around here anyway.
