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[Over50]

I've dabbled in HRT the last year or so, but found it to be mostly a waste of time due to the low dosage (200mg/week). After reading a Bill Roberts article on Masterone I thought I would cycle it with Test - 250mg/wk of each. Plus anastrozole and HCG during the cycle and Clomid after.

Had recent baseline bloodwork - Serum Test 578, Free test 7.8. Average for my age. Everything else was right on with normal parameters.

Goals - at this point maintain/add strength (squat/DL +405 @ 165lb body weight), add a little size, lose a little body fat - am decently lean but can always do better.

Let me know your thoughts - I know there's lot's of opinions out there...Thanks.

 

[Finaplixguy711]

Test only cycle at 500mg of enathate or cyp for 12 weeks with no post due to hrt. Or we can give u post if u wanna come off hrt

 

[Kinetic]

100mg/week of cypionate keeps me around 800-900, so I wouldn't say 200mg/week is a waste of time. It's not a "blast", but more of a cruise than a lot of guys are on. To each their own, I guess.

If you're really wanting to blast, I'd also recommend 500mg/week of test only. See how you react to that dosage before throwing other compounds in the mix.

 

[PIZZABOY]

Good advice, two injects a week and you will know. Get good test. Shouldn't need any arimedex. That's all you need. Couple 2-3 months you will be happy, cruise on 250 week, see where that puts you.I've never used masteron

 

[Finaplixguy711]

Good advice, two injects a week and you will know. Get good test. Shouldn't need any arimedex. That's all you need. Couple 2-3 months you will be happy, cruise on 250 week, see where that puts you.I've never used masteron

No adex?

 

[ScabbyJr]

No offense bro but if you can't put on size with 200 mg of test a week, you don't know how to eat and train. What makes you think an extra 50 mg will make the difference?
I like your cycle but I think there's more that needs to be worked on then jabbing your glute

 

[ScabbyJr]

No adex?

X2. I'm on 250 mg of test a week and I need .5 mg 3x a week. Everyone is different.

 

[Big_paul]

It's not a waste of time if you are looking only for replacement therapy. Actually 200mg ew is generous.

Through another 400mg test on top and you will see the results you are looking for.

Forget about the mast. At 165lbs and a little body fat?
Look for muscle. 600mg test will get the job done.

Make certain your diet is right or the magic doesn't happen.

 

[PIZZABOY]

No adex?

I haven't needed to use at those doses. I would Definetly have it, everyone's different. You can always work a small amount in if signs dictate. Nips are going to itch a bit, but if you really start puffin up... Happens to me when I frontload. My legs and ankle swell. BLOODWORK beats bro science every time. Really itchy nips? Nolva for piece of mind.

 

[Throwback]

100mg/week of cypionate keeps me around 800-900, so I wouldn't say 200mg/week is a waste of time. It's not a "blast", but more of a cruise than a lot of guys are on. To each their own, I guess.

If you're really wanting to blast, I'd also recommend 500mg/week of test only. See how you react to that dosage before throwing other compounds in the mix.

I was thinking the same...my ugl was 1330 t on 200mg ethanate. Those numbers with a dialed in diet and routine produce good results....not as fast as a blast but still really good gains over the long term.

 

[Throwback]

No adex?

I only need it above 600mg and then not till week 6 or 8. BUT EVERYONE is different. Make sure you have an ai on hand in case symptoms begin to occur.

 

[Over50]

No offense bro but if you can't put on size with 200 mg of test a week, you don't know how to eat and train. What makes you think an extra 50 mg will make the difference?
I like your cycle but I think there's more that needs to be worked on then jabbing your glute

It wasn't so much the extra 50 mg I questioned, it was regarding the Masteron replacing half the Test in a 500 mg/week cycle. As for eating and training I think I've picked up a bit of information in the last 35 years. While most of my peers are couch potatoes I'm still squatting and deadlifting 2.5x my weight. At 55 I'm not really looking to put on 30lbs either - it would look plain goofy and not really fit in with other activities - mountain biking, running, etc.

A description of Masteron I found was:

Masteron carries relatively low anabolic and androgenic ratings; however, these ratings are somewhat misleading. It’s important to remember DHT, the basis of Masteron, is five times more androgenic than testosterone with a much stronger binding affinity to the androgen receptor. This again promotes a harder look and can also enhance fat loss. Most all anabolic steroids are well-noted for enhancing the metabolic rate, but strong androgens have a tendency to directly promote lipolysis.

As an anabolic, Masteron isn’t well-known for promoting gains in lean muscle mass. It has never been used for muscle wasting in a therapeutic sense and will almost always be found in cutting plans among performance athletes. It can, however, promote significant boosts in strength, which could prove beneficial to an athlete who may not necessarily be looking for raw mass.

All of that seemed a fit for me - I value your opinion Scabby so let me know what you think. Thanks.

 

[Throwback]

It wasn't so much the extra 50 mg I questioned, it was regarding the Masteron replacing half the Test in a 500 mg/week cycle. As for eating and training I think I've picked up a bit of information in the last 35 years. While most of my peers are couch potatoes I'm still squatting and deadlifting 2.5x my weight. At 55 I'm not really looking to put on 30lbs either - it would look plain goofy and not really fit in with other activities - mountain biking, running, etc.

A description of Masteron I found was:

Masteron carries relatively low anabolic and androgenic ratings; however, these ratings are somewhat misleading. It’s important to remember DHT, the basis of Masteron, is five times more androgenic than testosterone with a much stronger binding affinity to the androgen receptor. This again promotes a harder look and can also enhance fat loss. Most all anabolic steroids are well-noted for enhancing the metabolic rate, but strong androgens have a tendency to directly promote lipolysis.

As an anabolic, Masteron isn’t well-known for promoting gains in lean muscle mass. It has never been used for muscle wasting in a therapeutic sense and will almost always be found in cutting plans among performance athletes. It can, however, promote significant boosts in strength, which could prove beneficial to an athlete who may not necessarily be looking for raw mass.

All of that seemed a fit for me - I value your opinion Scabby so let me know what you think. Thanks.

So what are u trying to accomplish...leaning out or just trt for well being?
We know your age what about height weight and bf%.
You mention mtn biking etc... and then that you dont want to gain alot of mass.
Just trying to get a handle on goals here.

 

[Erin]

I've dabbled in HRT the last year or so, but found it to be mostly a waste of time due to the low dosage (200mg/week). After reading a Bill Roberts article on Masterone I thought I would cycle it with Test - 250mg/wk of each. Plus anastrozole and HCG during the cycle and Clomid after.

Had recent baseline bloodwork - Serum Test 578, Free test 7.8. Average for my age. Everything else was right on with normal parameters.

Goals - at this point maintain/add strength (squat/DL +405 @ 165lb body weight), add a little size, lose a little body fat - am decently lean but can always do better.

Let me know your thoughts - I know there's lot's of opinions out there...Thanks.

Your baseline numbers are higher than a lot of guys here. That's not "dabbling in HRT" - that's just low-dose AAS use.

Anyway, standard advice is to start with TestE 500mg/w. Control your calorie intake and you can lose body fat while adding size. You'll put on 10lbs, but don't worry about putting on 30.
I prefer exemestane to anastrozole and Nolva to Clomid. HCG if you're cycling on and off.

 

[Over50]

So what are u trying to accomplish...leaning out or just trt for well being?
We know your age what about height weight and bf%.
You mention mtn biking etc... and then that you dont want to gain alot of mass.
Just trying to get a handle on goals here.

Throwback - goals are to gain a modest amount of lean mass (+/- 10 lbs), maintain enhance strength, and limit body fat. I'm more focused on the latter two. As such I was interested in Masteron as it seems to facilitate those two goals more than increasing size. I have other activities beyond lifting where too much mass is a negative. I'm hiking into the Grand Canyon next month - toting to much mass out of it isn't something I would look forward to. Most people have advised sticking with straight test so unless I hear otherwise I will probably take that recommendation.

 

[Oregongearhead]

It wasn't so much the extra 50 mg I questioned, it was regarding the Masteron replacing half the Test in a 500 mg/week cycle. As for eating and training I think I've picked up a bit of information in the last 35 years. While most of my peers are couch potatoes I'm still squatting and deadlifting 2.5x my weight. At 55 I'm not really looking to put on 30lbs either - it would look plain goofy and not really fit in with other activities - mountain biking, running, etc.

A description of Masteron I found was:

Masteron carries relatively low anabolic and androgenic ratings; however, these ratings are somewhat misleading. It’s important to remember DHT, the basis of Masteron, is five times more androgenic than testosterone with a much stronger binding affinity to the androgen receptor. This again promotes a harder look and can also enhance fat loss. Most all anabolic steroids are well-noted for enhancing the metabolic rate, but strong androgens have a tendency to directly promote lipolysis.

As an anabolic, Masteron isn’t well-known for promoting gains in lean muscle mass. It has never been used for muscle wasting in a therapeutic sense and will almost always be found in cutting plans among performance athletes. It can, however, promote significant boosts in strength, which could prove beneficial to an athlete who may not necessarily be looking for raw mass.

All of that seemed a fit for me - I value your opinion Scabby so let me know what you think. Thanks.

Masteron is also well known for hair loss too . Something most of us oldsters dont need . I"ll stick with my low TRT doses and quarterly blasts . Its accomplishing more than I expected when I started TRT almost 7 yrs ago at 50 . Its a marathon not a sprint....Goodluck ~Ogh

 

[Throwback]

I personally would stick to the test only since it will be really your first cycle.
Your diet and training will determine if you succeed in reaching your goals.
Expect to add 15 plus pounds during the cycle of which you will lose 1/3 to 1/2 as fluid retention subsides....it really should put u where you want to be at the end.

 

[Over50]

Masteron is also well known for hair loss too . Something most of us oldsters dont need . I"ll stick with my low TRT doses and quarterly blasts . Its accomplishing more than I expected when I started TRT almost 7 yrs ago at 50 . Its a marathon not a sprint....Goodluck ~Ogh

OGH - Decades too late on the hair loss for me. Genetically predisposed. So what are you dosing during your cruises and blasts?

 

[Oregongearhead]

OGH - Decades too late on the hair loss for me. Genetically predisposed. So what are you dosing during your cruises and blasts?

TRT is 100-120mg/wk test-c for 3-4 months.

A blast is anywhere from 500-750mg/wk test-c . Im blasting right now , I kicked it off with 3 weeks of low dose dbol (30mg/day) and 500mg/wk test-c . I will run the 500 for 5 weeks then increase to 600-750mg the last 5-7 weeks . 12 weeks total . But it works .

This is extremely mild in todays BB standards but I have a plum sized prostate too and it doesnt let me get too wild without paying for it...(alot of peeing)

 

[Over50]

TRT is 100-120mg/wk test-c for 3-4 months.

A blast is anywhere from 500-750mg/wk test-c . Im blasting right now , I kicked it off with 3 weeks of low dose dbol (30mg/day) and 500mg/wk test-c . I will run the 500 for 5 weeks then increase to 600-750mg the last 5-7 weeks . 12 weeks total . But it works .

This is extremely mild in todays BB standards but I have a plum sized prostate too and it doesnt let me get too wild without paying for it...(alot of peeing)

Lol, sucks to get old, right? I assume you're using anti-estrogens during your blasts (or all the time?). HCG? I guess since you're never off you don't deal with PCT, right? You're plan makes good sense to me. I might lower the overall dosages, at least initially, but the plan sounds right. Thanks for the info!