Feeling lethargic on Tren A?

[Maven3]

On day 4 of my Tren A run. First time running tren dose is at 100mg ED with Test P at 40mg ED.

Havent felt anything at all yet, which surprises me considering the reputation tren has. When I run test p at 100mg ed I cant tell the effects within 2-3 days at most.

No sides like insomnia, energy, sweating etc. In fact if anything I feel like Im sweating less and most noticeably I am very lethargic. Last night I slept for 10 hours and it was still a struggle to get out of bed. Feel like napping throughout the day as well.

Is this a common reaction to tren a? I know when I ran test p for the first time I got test flu for the first week, just wonder if this is a similar kind of thing. Never heard of "tren flu" though.

 

[Maxlass]

I ran it for the first time a little while back and it made me lethargic as fuck. Once I got going in the gym i was fine ie. good strength and aggression but sweated like a bitch. Hardened me up but was a bitch on cardio. Definitely not for me.

 

[Mayne]

100 mg ED for a 1st go is a lot but I am not sure this is the cause for your condition.

 

[CdnGuy]

I'm 2 wks in on tren a at 400mg wk. Already making me lethargic brother,totally normal.But up at 4am for cardio, then after work i'll have a power nap then hit the weights. As Mayne said you may wanna adjust your mg's, high for a first timer. GL

 

[roastdawg]

I get lethargic on tren as well. Insomnia in the beginning and lethargic later for me. It's actually a super frustrating side... I don't have energy for anything besides sex or working out.

 

[Maven3]

Yeh i realize its fairly high for a first run. Reason being Im running a shorter cycle so I feel its necessary to keep the dose high. Also trying out the high tren low test style of cycle, which supposedly keeps most of the sides manageable. Well see about that I guess.

Its just strange after hearing about all the insomnia horror storries, then I find I just want to sleep all day.

Thanks for input though glad im not the only one who gets lethargic from it.

 

[insertnamehere]

I also go through bouts of lethargy while on tren. Based on how it feels, it seems to be impacting thyroid function. I would have have to get blood work to confirm but this is how it feels.

You should feel better in a few more days.

 

[manafest]

Tren can make you feel different from day to day at times...me personally it's the only thing ive ever taken that will make me tired but yet the sight and smell of a vagina will set me off into a sexual mode I cannot control..I will keep getting it until im almost ready to pass out, by that time im slobbering out of my mouth and sweating so bad my wife has the look of running from me....

 

[Wunderpus]

On day 4 of my Tren A run. First time running tren dose is at 100mg ED with Test P at 40mg ED.

Havent felt anything at all yet, which surprises me considering the reputation tren has. When I run test p at 100mg ed I cant tell the effects within 2-3 days at most.

No sides like insomnia, energy, sweating etc. In fact if anything I feel like Im sweating less and most noticeably I am very lethargic. Last night I slept for 10 hours and it was still a struggle to get out of bed. Feel like napping throughout the day as well.

Is this a common reaction to tren a? I know when I ran test p for the first time I got test flu for the first week, just wonder if this is a similar kind of thing. Never heard of "tren flu" though.

Not to be a dick, but why would you run tren so high if you've never run it before? Also, it takes about 5 days for me to FEEL it, and 10 or so for me to REALLY feel it.

Also, tren a makes me want to sleep all day, but I can't sleep at night. No idea why. What lab of tren?

 

[jackthegripper2]

Sleep does not=REM sleep.
I could sleep on tren but the sleep was not great as I still felt tired in the morning.
Try taking some benadryl before bed see if you wake up feeling any different.

Cheers

 

[Wunderpus]

Sleep does not=REM sleep.
I could sleep on tren but the sleep was not great as I still felt tired in the morning.
Try taking some benadryl before bed see if you wake up feeling any different.

Cheers

Or melatonin + tryptophan

 

[bickel29]

You may want to increase the amount of test you are running with it. The whole higher/lower amount of test to run with tren seems to be user dependent, regarding side effects. Some guys swear by lower amount of test, some guys swear they feel better when running MORE test. Something to consider.

Also, are you positive that your test is legit and at least close to label claims? When you are running only 40mg ed, you can't afford for it to be underdosed by very much. You are shutting down your body's own test production and only adding 280 mg per week (40 x 7) so if your test is way underdosed you may only be REALLY running an amount that may be less than your natty levels.

I like to start my short ester cycles with test p only for the first couple of weeks to make sure that I am feeling good results from my test before throwing in other compounds. It doesn't guarantee that my test p is dosed correctly, but it does give me peace of mind that my test is at least decent to good.

One question for you regarding your sleep - you say you slept 10 hours, but was that a solid deep sleep for 10 hours, or was it an interrupted 10 hours of shallow sleep?

 

[Wunderpus]

You may want to increase the amount of test you are running with it. The whole higher/lower amount of test to run with tren seems to be user dependent, regarding side effects. Some guys swear by lower amount of test, some guys swear they feel better when running MORE test. Something to consider.

Also, are you positive that your test is legit and at least close to label claims? When you are running only 40mg ed, you can't afford for it to be underdosed by very much. You are shutting down your body's own test production and only adding 280 mg per week (40 x 7) so if your test is way underdosed you may only be REALLY running an amount that may be less than your natty levels.

I like to start my short ester cycles with test p only for the first couple of weeks to make sure that I am feeling good results from my test before throwing in other compounds. It doesn't guarantee that my test p is dosed correctly, but it does give me peace of mind that my test is at least decent to good.

One question for you regarding your sleep - you say you slept 10 hours, but was that a solid deep sleep for 10 hours, or was it an interrupted 10 hours of shallow sleep?

Or if the tren is legit

 

[bickel29]

Or if the tren is legit

Definitely!

 

[Maven3]

You may want to increase the amount of test you are running with it. The whole higher/lower amount of test to run with tren seems to be user dependent, regarding side effects. Some guys swear by lower amount of test, some guys swear they feel better when running MORE test. Something to consider.

Also, are you positive that your test is legit and at least close to label claims? When you are running only 40mg ed, you can't afford for it to be underdosed by very much. You are shutting down your body's own test production and only adding 280 mg per week (40 x 7) so if your test is way underdosed you may only be REALLY running an amount that may be less than your natty levels.

I like to start my short ester cycles with test p only for the first couple of weeks to make sure that I am feeling good results from my test before throwing in other compounds. It doesn't guarantee that my test p is dosed correctly, but it does give me peace of mind that my test is at least decent to good.

One question for you regarding your sleep - you say you slept 10 hours, but was that a solid deep sleep for 10 hours, or was it an interrupted 10 hours of shallow sleep?

The test p is defintely gtg. Ive run it multiple times, same lab from the same dealer.

The tren a is from Keifei. First time running it but ive used other stuff from them including my anavar and auxillary meds and they were all legit so i have no reason to think the tren a is any different.

I was thinking of bumping up the test to somewhere around 80-100mg as I know from past experience I feel amazing at that dose but ill stay where i am for a few more days and evaluate.

Sleep.. Im not a good sleeper in general but it seems like a normal sleep for me but its easier for me to fall asleep since starting thats the strange thing. I did have a couple crazy vivid dreams last night which ive read can be a side effect.

 

[Maven3]

Not to be a dick, but why would you run tren so high if you've never run it before? Also, it takes about 5 days for me to FEEL it, and 10 or so for me to REALLY feel it.

Also, tren a makes me want to sleep all day, but I can't sleep at night. No idea why. What lab of tren?

Yeh I hear ya man. Im only running it so high because Im doing a shorter cycle so I didnt think there was any point going lower and since its tren a i can hope off any time sides get unmanageable.

The lab is keifei and I know from past experience their stuff has always been decent. The only weird thing about their tren a is that is comes in 1ml amps. Dosed at 100mg per ml. That also means if I was dosing less than 100mg ED id have to find a way to store the oil.

 

[brutus79]

Or your blood pressure is so high you are borderline cardiac arrest... checking your BP before, during and after these bouts?
What about blood sugar levels?

 

[Maven3]

Or your blood pressure is so high you are borderline cardiac arrest... checking your BP before, during and after these bouts?
What about blood sugar levels?

fuck now you scared me. Havent checked my blood pressure no. Didnt consider that to be honest.

Id have to go the doc to get that checked out. Whats a good excuse to ask the doc to read your blood pressure? Aside from "well Im running a tren cycle so I wanna make sure Im not going to have a heart attack"

Any other physical signs I can look for? I dont have any elevated heart rate so far. My cardio is still ok as well.

Also just to note, on Day 5 now and not as tired as yesterday.

 

[Docd187123]

I also go through bouts of lethargy while on tren. Based on how it feels, it seems to be impacting thyroid function. I would have have to get blood work to confirm but this is how it feels.

You should feel better in a few more days.

I only checked my thyroid my first tren run but back then my n=1 experiment showed no significant changes for TSH, T4 and T3.

 

[brutus79]

fuck now you scared me. Havent checked my blood pressure no. Didnt consider that to be honest.

Id have to go the doc to get that checked out. Whats a good excuse to ask the doc to read your blood pressure? Aside from "well Im running a tren cycle so I wanna make sure Im not going to have a heart attack"

Any other physical signs I can look for? I dont have any elevated heart rate so far. My cardio is still ok as well.

Also just to note, on Day 5 now and not as tired as yesterday.

Buy a blood pressure cuff. 40 bucks.