First Bulk in 10 Years

[Maynard]

[AX Labs] Test E, Tren E, Eq, Dbol, Adrol [Nov/Dec2023]

Current stats 47 years old, 5'9", 200 lbs, 18-19% Total BF%, 14% SubQ or ~11% w/Calipers
Been cruising on 600mg Test E, 600mg Mast, 60mg Tren E for a while, Ran Var & Winny during the cut down to 14% Total BF%. Been off the orals and my bloodwork looks good. Ready to blast for my first bulk in a decade.

Planning to stay at 600mg Test
Push Tren E to 100mg
Drop Mast, Add 400mg Eq w/Frontload to make peak values ASAP.

Have both Drol and Dbol on hand. Thinking about running 50mg of each/day or 100mg/day of either for 6-8 weeks, then no orals for 4 weeks, then back on for the last 6-8 weeks. I've never run Adrol before, but I loved Dbol back in the day. I haven't run it in years either.

I'm planning about a 20 week bulk before going back to cutting. I've been at about 1800-2100 calories to cut, around 2700 maintenance. I'm starting the bulk at 3200 calories 60% Carbs, 25% Protien, 15% Fat. I'll adjust based lean mass and fat gains.

In addition, I have the following on hand:

Ipamorelin/CJC1295 300 units/day
60 days of IGF-1 LR3 200 units/day
Ibutamoren 25mg/day
Anastrozole 1mg EOD
Cabergoline 0.25mg 2x/Week

1.5 kits of HGH (probably save for my next cut)
Anavar (probably save for my next cut)
Winstrol (probably save for my next cut)
Nolvadex

 

[Fattyone]

A 20wk bulk might be rough starting at 18% bf. Sounds like you’re using calipers though, which although accurate as far as repeatability, might not be the most precise.
Do you have decent ab definition?

 

[Maynard]

A 20wk bulk might be rough starting at 18% bf. Sounds like you’re using calipers though, which although accurate as far as repeatability, might not be the most precise.
Do you have decent ab definition?

Dude, my caliper measurement just now is 11.24% The 18% would be more the Dexa equivalent, or as close as impedance scales can get. The SubQ measurement from my scale is 13.5%. I love this you can't bulk unless you're shredded bullshit. I went from 28% to 14% Total BF % in 12 weeks. Putting on a little fat is not a big deal...

 

[Maynard]

Frontloaded with 800mg EQ this morning...
Increased the Tren to 80mg/week, 40mg 2x/week
Started the Dbol & Adrol yesterday, could be in my head but I already feel fuller and more vascular. I'm toying with the idea of just running the Dbol at 75mgs/day and saving the Drol for the end of the cycle?
Chest & Back coming up later. I'm stoked for the Dbol pump!

I did miscalculate my EQ on hand. I can either run 400mgs/week for 13 weeks, or 300mgs/week for 17 weeks. That, or order another vial in the next couple weeks. Any thoughts? This is my first time running EQ. I'm usually a Test/Tren or Test/Mast/Tren guy. I can't tolerate Deca at all. 100mgs/week and my dick shuts down and I get psycho. Which is funny, because I've never had that kind of issue with Tren. At 400mgs/week I was plenty psycho, but my dick worked fine...

Actually, my HRT guy gave me 300mgs/week Test & 200mgs/week Deca. This is why I pushed my Test to 600mgs initially was to overcome the Deca sides while running P5P & Caber too. I also had a flare up of prolactin induced gyno. I've run 1200mgs+ of Test a week stacked with 100mgs/day Dbol and I've never had any estrogen related gyno issues. It's crazy that I'm so sensitive to Deca.

 

[DECLAN]

Man, I’m amazed how you can cruise at that amounts. How much size do you shrink if you drop down to true trt levels?

I don’t care how much you blast that is your decision but 200lbs is not a lot at uour height, so I am wondering if your gear is bunk or you are a low responder. Anyway, you’re pretty healthy to be able to cruise on tren at your age while some guys way younger couldn’t even handle it for a couple of weeks.

 

[Maynard]

Man, I’m amazed how you can cruise at that amounts. How much size do you shrink if you drop down to true trt levels?

I don’t care how much you blast that is your decision but 200lbs is not a lot at uour height, so I am wondering if your gear is bunk or you are a low responder. Anyway, you’re pretty healthy to be able to cruise on tren at your age while some guys way younger couldn’t even handle it for a couple of weeks.

I just started "cruising" the last 8 weeks or so after I dropped the orals and the Tren until it cleared and I just added it back at low dose a couple of weeks ago. I went right into a cut so I'm pretty small compared to my heavier days. It's not so much about losing muscle as it is making it easier to stay vascular and lean. Tren works wonders as far as eating like a beast and still staying lean. I got the idea from an NP I saw when my cervical radiculopathy was acting up a few months ago. He was obviously a bro. He said he has a buddy that cruises on Tren. I started looking at it, there is some info out there on Reddit and what not, but nothing solid. I'm on a mission to find out how low of a dose will let me keep the "Tren" look and nutrient partitioning and how high I can go before I notice the nastier sides like insomnia and night sweats. I know the sides suck at 200mg/week for me. So I'm hoping 100mg/week will be a sweet spot.

I was at 300mg/week TRT, only went up "temporarily" until the Deca cleared. Never went back down. Started with cutting because I was fat as fuck. Got down to single digit BF. Going to blast this bulk, then probably drop back to 300mg/week of Test and cut again. My pharmacy is legit for my TRT and I use AX Labs for everything else. My source came from an IFBB pro I dated. My gear is good.

I do full bloodwork monthly and my TRT guy knows everything I'm on. He's a solid guy and I talk to him frequently. My lipids are fine, glucose runs at the top of the range, but always has. My liver is good when I'm not on orals. I donate blood every 2-3 months. That and a couple meds Losartan, etc., keep my BP in check.

 

[Maynard]

I was at 300mg/week TRT, only went up "temporarily" until the Deca cleared.

Just realized the context for this comment wasn't posted here, but in my new member post. Don't read it, turned into a flame-fest/shit-show... I fed the trolls...

Anyway, I can't tolerate Deca at all... Not even at 100mgs/week. It kills my libido and makes Mr. Happy all floppy and shit. Even at 3:1 it was bad, so I bumped the Test up while waiting for the Deca to clear and just stayed at 600mgs/week Test. My bloodwork is good, total is 2400ish and free is 800ish.

My HRT guy gave me 200mgs/Deca & 300mgs/Test per week. I also get Ipamorelin/CJC1295, IGF-1 LR3, AOD 9604, BPC-157, Anavar, and Ibutamoren from my HRT clinic. I tried Deca twice, at 200mgs, and at 100mgs/week. Both times it shut me down hard. I was dating a smoking hot Brazilian nympho at the time, she was not happy... Hence the jump straight to 600mgs/week of test to get things back on track. That was June/July. Been at 600mgs ever since.

 

[Maynard]

Frontloaded with 800mg EQ this morning...
Increased the Tren to 80mg/week, 40mg 2x/week
Started the Dbol & Adrol yesterday, could be in my head but I already feel fuller and more vascular. I'm toying with the idea of just running the Dbol at 75mgs/day and saving the Drol for the end of the cycle?
Chest & Back coming up later. I'm stoked for the Dbol pump!

Woke up with a light sweat this morning. I'm hoping it's just cuz I didn't turn the thermostat down before bed. There was no puddle or anything like a good Tren sweat. Let's hope it doesn't get any worse.

 

[DECLAN]

Just realized the context for this comment wasn't posted here, but in my new member post. Don't read it, turned into a flame-fest/shit-show... I fed the trolls...

Anyway, I can't tolerate Deca at all... Not even at 100mgs/week. It kills my libido and makes Mr. Happy all floppy and shit. Even at 3:1 it was bad, so I bumped the Test up while waiting for the Deca to clear and just stayed at 600mgs/week Test. My bloodwork is good, total is 2400ish and free is 800ish.

My HRT guy gave me 200mgs/Deca & 300mgs/Test per week. I also get Ipamorelin/CJC1295, IGF-1 LR3, AOD 9604, BPC-157, Anavar, and Ibutamoren from my HRT clinic. I tried Deca twice, at 200mgs, and at 100mgs/week. Both times it shut me down hard. I was dating a smoking hot Brazilian nympho at the time, she was not happy... Hence the jump straight to 600mgs/week of test to get things back on track. That was June/July. Been at 600mgs ever since.

I remember some guys who are actually prone to limp dick if they mix test with nandrolone specifically deca. Hence, some just run it by itself. One pro who’s a doc experimented with his client on how they run just deca without test to mitigate any conversion and it worked.

 

[Maynard]

I remember some guys who are actually prone to limp dick if they mix test with nandrolone specifically deca. Hence, some just run it by itself. One pro who’s a doc experimented with his client on how they run just deca without test to mitigate any conversion and it worked.

That's wild... I also find it interesting that I tolerate Tren fairly well as another 19-Nor compound, but Deca hates me...

 

[Maynard]

10 days in, up 3 lbs… ~50/50 fat & muscle according to my impedance scale. I’ve been eating like a psycho. I’ve blown my 3200 calories out of the water almost every day. I had at least one 6k calorie day. That and 3 holiday parties and all the food didn’t help.

Settled on the following dosages for now:

Test E 300mg 2x/week
EQ 200mg 2x/week
Tren E 40mg 2x/week
HCG 300iu 2x/week
Dbol 75mg/day 3 doses of 25mg
HGH 2 units/day AM
IGF-1 LR3 50mcg/day midday or post workout
Ipamorelin/CJC1295 300iu/day before bed
Ibutamoren 25mg/day before bed
Anastrozole 1mg EOD
Cabergoline .25mg 2x/week

Jesus, even pinning the Test & EQ together that’s 27 pins a week.

I feel tired, achey, headaches, etc… the pumps are so crazy my lower back actually tightened up so much I had to bail on a workout. I’ve been sick too, so not sure how much of the aches and whatever are the cold/flu?

The bloat and reflux has been awful, I need to clean the diet up and stop eating so close to bed. Going to bed full is a recipe for reflux and shit sleep for me.

Still no insomnia and night sweats. Definitely a little anxiety and aggression, but mostly toward inanimate objects when I’m alone.

I haven’t been a cunt to my girl, at least no more than usual….

Still hoping to get about 30 lbs total out of 20 weeks. If I get there sooner, or the gains stop, I’ll flip back to cutting. My shredded weight was 180 in October. I’m hoping to be 200+ after my next cut. I know it’s ambitious.

I plan to get bloodwork done next week. We’ll see how it looks.

 

[jJjburton]

10 days in, up 3 lbs… ~50/50 fat & muscle according to my impedance scale. I’ve been eating like a psycho. I’ve blown my 3200 calories out of the water almost every day. I had at least one 6k calorie day. That and 3 holiday parties and all the food didn’t help.

Settled on the following dosages for now:

Test E 300mg 2x/week
EQ 200mg 2x/week
Tren E 40mg 2x/week
HCG 300iu 2x/week
Dbol 75mg/day 3 doses of 25mg
HGH 2 units/day AM
IGF-1 LR3 50mcg/day midday or post workout
Ipamorelin/CJC1295 300iu/day before bed
Ibutamoren 25mg/day before bed
Anastrozole 1mg EOD
Cabergoline .25mg 2x/week

Jesus, even pinning the Test & EQ together that’s 27 pins a week.

I feel tired, achey, headaches, etc… the pumps are so crazy my lower back actually tightened up so much I had to bail on a workout. I’ve been sick too, so not sure how much of the aches and whatever are the cold/flu?

The bloat and reflux has been awful, I need to clean the diet up and stop eating so close to bed. Going to bed full is a recipe for reflux and shit sleep for me.

Still no insomnia and night sweats. Definitely a little anxiety and aggression, but mostly toward inanimate objects when I’m alone.

I haven’t been a cunt to my girl, at least no more than usual….

Still hoping to get about 30 lbs total out of 20 weeks. If I get there sooner, or the gains stop, I’ll flip back to cutting. My shredded weight was 180 in October. I’m hoping to be 200+ after my next cut. I know it’s ambitious.

I plan to get bloodwork done next week. We’ll see how it looks.

You are going to crash estrogen with that dose of AI….

 

[Maynard]

You are going to crash estrogen with that dose of AI….

Nope, I was in the 50s last time I checked and that’s running 600mg Masteron too.

I run high, I’ve taken 1mg a day on higher doses. Everyone is different man. Get bloods…

 

[jJjburton]

Nope, I was in the 50s last time I checked and that’s running 600mg Masteron too.

I run high, I’ve taken 1mg a day on higher doses. Everyone is different man. Get bloods…

Hope so lol

 

[Maynard]

I actually started Tamoxifen 3 days ago as my right nip was sore. I’ve been running at this dose of Anastrozole for weeks, before I dropped the Mast, added EQ and Dbol.

 

[DECLAN]

Nope, I was in the 50s last time I checked and that’s running 600mg Masteron too.

I run high, I’ve taken 1mg a day on higher doses. Everyone is different man. Get bloods…

How’s your prostrate and hair on 600mg? I went up to 500mg mast prop once and had to drop back to 350 since I noticed more frequent trip to the bathroom. Weak stream though so I figured it is messing with my prostate lol. Peeing went back to normal after lowering dose though.

 

[Maynard]

That doesn’t make any sense. Masteron does not convert to Estrogen or DHT. In fact it has mild anti-E properties. The only issue I have is each time I come off of it my estradiol rebounds. I’m pretty sure that’s why my nip hurts now. Otherwise side effect wise it’s similar to Primo.

I did end up with non-specific urethritis and a prostate infection toward the end of my cut. 7 days of Doxycycline took care of that. I blame unprotected butt stuff for that little infection. My PSA shot up to a 9! We’ll see where it is next week.

I did notice a few hairs on the sink when I front-loaded the EQ, but that didn’t last long. I’m typically not predisposed to hair loss or gyno.

I try to keep my E in check more for libido and emotional stability. Nobody wants to see the juice-head crying like a little bitch….

 

[Maynard]

OK, upped my Tren E to 100mg week on Thursday. So much for staying at 80mg for a couple weeks. I know I get wicked night sweats at 200mg. I’m not sure if I’ll push it anymore. Blood draw scheduled for Tues. I donated blood on Friday. My BP was hitting 160 to low 170s. Back down to the 130s now which is excellent for me. Untreated I’ve been over 200. Based on the headaches I was getting in the gym I was pushing that while lifting, especially legs.

Tomorrow will be 2 weeks. GERD and bloat still suck. I blame my love for hot sauce and high fermentation carbs. I’m up 8 lbs, probably mostly water. At 75mg of Dbol/day that seems pretty inevitable.

I don’t think I’ve hit my calorie goal once in 2 weeks. I’m usually over by 600-800 calories. I know I’m going to gain more fat this way. Up 1% already according to my impedance scale. The appetite is not as bad as it was at first, those first couple of 6000 calorie days were nuts.

What kind of surplus has worked for you guys while bulking on gear? I honestly never worried about it, I was pounding 4500 calories+ a day and not tracking anything but protein back in the day. I usually ended up gaining fat and muscle at a ratio that kept me pretty close in bf%…

I don’t want to limit muscle gain and I’ll happily take the fat that I need to. I just don’t want to gain an extra 5% BF that so don’t have to?

Constantly feel winded and stiff. I can’t even shower without getting painful pumps. Bending over to tie my shoes with the bloat and the stiffness is a bitch.

Libido is good, but not 1.6gm/week of gear good? I may have dropped my E too low as has already been mentioned. We’ll see the bloodwork soon enough.

My girl is a total nympho… I can get her 2-3 times, get mine, then she goes for the toys and I pass out.

 

[may2021]

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[AX Labs] Test E, Tren E, Eq, Dbol, Adrol [Nov/Dec2023]

Current stats 47 years old, 5'9", 200 lbs, 18-19% Total BF%, 14% SubQ or ~11% w/Calipers
Been cruising on 600mg Test E, 600mg Mast, 60mg Tren E for a while, Ran Var & Winny during the cut down to 14% Total BF%. Been off the orals and my bloodwork looks good. Ready to blast for my first bulk in a decade.

Planning to stay at 600mg Test
Push Tren E to 100mg
Drop Mast, Add 400mg Eq w/Frontload to make peak values ASAP.

Have both Drol and Dbol on hand. Thinking about running 50mg of each/day or 100mg/day of either for 6-8 weeks, then no orals for 4 weeks, then back on for the last 6-8 weeks. I've never run Adrol before, but I loved Dbol back in the day. I haven't run it in years either.

I'm planning about a 20 week bulk before going back to cutting. I've been at about 1800-2100 calories to cut, around 2700 maintenance. I'm starting the bulk at 3200 calories 60% Carbs, 25% Protien, 15% Fat. I'll adjust based lean mass and fat gains.

In addition, I have the following on hand:

Ipamorelin/CJC1295 300 units/day
60 days of IGF-1 LR3 200 units/day
Ibutamoren 25mg/day
Anastrozole 1mg EOD
Cabergoline 0.25mg 2x/Week

1.5 kits of HGH (probably save for my next cut)
Anavar (probably save for my next cut)
Winstrol (probably save for my next cut)
Nolvadex

You've been cruising on 600mg Test E, 600mg Mast, 60mg Tren E?

 

[Maynard]

6 months, was at 200mg Tren… dropped it for 6 weeks and started lower dose. But, basically yeah. Orals on and off. Winny & Var. Dbol now.