First Cycle - 500 test 500 primo 16 wk

You need to work on your units. Numbers have units. Use them.

1 ml tells us nothing. Concentration time volume equals mass.

Specify concentration and your planned injection frequency. Way to ignore what I provided above.
It absolutely tells you what I wanted to convey, which was that injecting one ML of volume of oil for me was hard, so more wouldve been harder.

Im using 250 test e. Twice a week
 
i think he just means he pussied out after actually pinning 1 ml. no specifications on how much API, just that he is a bit shaky regarding injections.
edit: he answered as i hit post
Just did first pin

Now that is all real, and Im not living in an imaginary world, I appreciate you guys talking some sense into me and to only go for 500 test. My hands are shaking after 1 ml injection. Maybe I'll live to regret this, maybe I wont. Only time will tell.
The shakiness is common when starting out, big man. get used to it, maybe do some exposure therapy by pinning more often with a smaller volume (0.5ml) so your Brain gets used to poking your cheeks/legs
 
funnily enough, i get the appeal of pinning quads. Especially if you get the short breath/ elevated heart rate borderline panicked feeling when pinning. twisting your torso usually makes it a lot worse. HOWEVER when pinning quads you will nick a vein or nerve or something soomer or later and thats gonna bruise/ hurt like a bitch
 
Quads are my go-to. Can handle a lot of juice and rarely get pip (primo used to give issues but then I started warming my oils and no more pain).

Where are you guys pinning? I hit the vastus lateralus and never have issues. In fact, the muscle is so long, I can pin in 3 different spots along the muscle.
 
Screwed up vg and hit a nerve or something, it already hurts a bit. Quads didnt hurt till pip the bext day. Id trade 3 days of pip for 1 day immediate pain but I suspect I will get both here.
 
Screwed up vg and hit a nerve or something, it already hurts a bit. Quads didnt hurt till pip the bext day. Id trade 3 days of pip for 1 day immediate pain but I suspect I will get both here.

virgin muscles, they will get used to that.
pin middle outer part of your quad, not the top or too close to knee/hip. they are painless for me except first few shots.

now imagine pinning 7ml's in case you went with 500/500 test/primo with primo being painful for most guys. thats lot of oil and lot of needles.
 
virgin muscles, they will get used to that.
pin middle outer part of your quad, not the top or too close to knee/hip. they are painless for me except first few shots.

now imagine pinning 7ml's in case you went with 500/500 test/primo with primo being painful for most guys. thats lot of oil and lot of needles.
Yeah youre right about that. Though actually the vg pain has subsided already, while tbh my quad even now still hurts a bit week later.

To continue the log, 3rd pin went in today. I dont think im easily placebod, and I know it takes a few weeks more to really saturate the test, but I believe I am getting some effects now. Feel my mood is better and better workouts, and boners. Though these can easily be placebo I suppose. Also got a few rep prs on smaller movements.
 
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