First cycle, advice appreciated

[samsc744]

Well Gunrunner you are right again, out of nowhere acne broke out on my back and forehead . I never had acne my whole life so it must be the stinking hcg.
Getting blood work tomorrow anyway so I will just wait for the results before increasing the al or dropping hcg. Acne sucks

 

[Gunrunner]

Well Gunrunner you are right again, out of nowhere acne broke out on my back and forehead . I never had acne my whole life so it must be the stinking hcg.
Getting blood work tomorrow anyway so I will just wait for the results before increasing the al or dropping hcg. Acne sucks

For the record, I am wrong sometime or if I don't know I try not to butt in and just read and learn. Usually I only know about stuff if I have experienced myself or have helped others with and can usually only speak to what I know has worked for me/them. We're all different and react differently to these compounds or mixture of compounds.

Yeah, I just figure that hGH just isn't worth it for me except maybe a short bridge before PCT and then up the AI. I was just listening to Rich Piana talking about using hCG on cycle and that since you're already on test and that sends a signal to the brain to not create more test then why would you use hCG and send a different signal to the brain to try to stimulate test production. I guess his point is that conflicting signals to the brain are counterproductive and the brain doesn't know how to process this. I'm not sayin he is right or wrong, just sayin.

 

[samsc744]

For the record, I am wrong sometime or if I don't know I try not to butt in and just read and learn. Usually I only know about stuff if I have experienced myself or have helped others with and can usually only speak to what I know has worked for me/them. We're all different and react differently to these compounds or mixture of compounds.

And that is ^^ why I take your word to the bank,
I received the blood test results today and crap my Estradiol is high along with other things out of whack !!! I am starting to question if the Aromasin I have is bunk or under dosed! I have been taking 12.5 ED anyone taking PEP's Aromasin with the same experience?

I have Letro from him as well but I haven't used it should I switch to it with 2.5 ED or alternate 25/12.5 ED Aromasin
old results 1/13/14

New results 2/7/14

 

[Gunrunner]

And that is ^^ why I take your word to the bank,
I received the blood test results today and crap my Estradiol is high along with other things out of whack !!! I am starting to question if the Aromasin I have is bunk or under dosed! I have been taking 12.5 ED anyone taking PEP's Aromasin with the same experience?

I have Letro from him as well but I haven't used it should I switch to it with 2.5 ED or alternate 25/12.5 ED Aromasin
old results 1/13/14

New results 2/7/14

Ok, you're not too far out of range. Don't panic. A lot of people with issues are well over 100. I would up the dose of Armomasain in case it is just under dosed. You probably want to start looking for another source. I would only use Letro if I tried other AIs that didn't work first.

 

[samsc744]

Ok thanks Guns, I will alternate Aro 25/12.5 ED and see how it goes. I haven't been to the underground forum lately, too much drama lately but I got to find that elusive source. I will be stuck to my laptop after work today searching.

 

[Gunrunner]

Ok thanks Guns, I will alternate Aro 25/12.5 ED and see how it goes. I haven't been to the underground forum lately, too much drama lately but I got to find that elusive source. I will be stuck to my laptop after work today searching.

I've had good luck with CEM-MESO for Aromasin or Arimidex. You can rush order it and get in a couple days.

 

[samsc744]

Thanks Guns, I will give them a shot then.

Any g2g source for Dutasteride, looking up and down and coming empty for some reason.

 

[USCballin]

I hate to best a dead horse here, but that is way too much gear for a first cycle. You'll be plenty satisfied with a simple test cycle. If you really feel the need you can run the drol the first 4 weeks or so just as a kick start, but you really don't need it. Good luck man, your going to love your first cycle.

I decided to drop the Deca, too. Just running a simple 10-12 wk cycle of 500mg of test and 4 wks of Dbol for a newbie as way more than enough for the first couple of cycles. Let your body say "Hello" first

 

[samsc744]

So decided to get the total/free test done just to pick the wrong lab damn it , it is even more expensive than the LC/MS-MS one which apparently will only give you the total but not the free so is there a test out there that will give you the exact number for both total and free?

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[ectodave]

Hi, new to this site so hanging off your question, sorry. I am 68 and train 5 times a week and I am ectomorphic. Therefore reached the wall now, AM I TOO OLD TO START A CYCLE OF STEROIDS?? Really frustrated at lack of gains but feel that I am doing everything correctly ie. eating and Mass supps. etc. HELP GUYS PLEASE. Most guys at the gym think I am about 50 so not a doddering old b....er. Dave

 

[samsc744]

Hi, new to this site so hanging off your question, sorry. I am 68 and train 5 times a week and I am ectomorphic. Therefore reached the wall now, AM I TOO OLD TO START A CYCLE OF STEROIDS?? Really frustrated at lack of gains but feel that I am doing everything correctly ie. eating and Mass supps. etc. HELP GUYS PLEASE. Most guys at the gym think I am about 50 so not a doddering old b....er. Dave

Dave, welcome aboard. if I were you I would start by looking into TRT through your Doctor or at least have a full blood work done to see where you at with everything not just testosterone. I will let other more experienced users respond but you may want to start your own thread

 

[samsc744]

If you are running PEP’s Nolva or Aromasin you may want to read this,
I ran his Aromasin for 5 weeks and Nolva for 2 weeks because of gyno signs and my E2 came back high even with running 50mg Aromasin ED.

I ran Nolva at 25mg ED for 3 days then 50mg ED for a week before the sensitive nipples issue subsided.

Last week I switched to another source (a research lab) and after 5 days of 12.5mg Aromasin ED I felt drier than a smoked fish and my joints started to hurt.

The same for the Nolva I received from him, just 10mg ed and nipples sensitivity is gone. So based on my own experience both of these compounds were severely under dosed.

I have Clomid from him as well which will be Joining the rest of his Nolva and Aromasin down the toilet.

It is hard enough to figure out your own baseline with these compounds on your first cycle just to find out that the baseline is bogus because of crappy compounds. Now I am running to 12.5mg al EOD and probably will be until the end of the cycle in 5 weeks. Thanks Obama!!

 

[lucabratzi]

Thanks for the heads up. Looks like I wasted more money w pep. Bunk prop and serms

 

[samsc744]

Thanks for the heads up. Looks like I wasted more money w pep. Bunk prop and serms

I know how you feel I am in the same boat, wasted money and time.

 

[bkent504]

What source did you switch to?

Never mind. ...went back a page and found it. Thanks for the updates man.

 

[samsc744]

What source did you switch to?

Never mind. ...went back a page and found it. Thanks for the updates man.

madisonjamesresearch I only used their Aromasin and Nolva, I bought their fin also but that is going to take time to show results so not a clue if it is working.

 

[raysugar1234]

If you are running PEP’s Nolva or Aromasin you may want to read this,
I ran his Aromasin for 5 weeks and Nolva for 2 weeks because of gyno signs and my E2 came back high even with running 50mg Aromasin ED.

I ran Nolva at 25mg ED for 3 days then 50mg ED for a week before the sensitive nipples issue subsided.

Last week I switched to another source (a research lab) and after 5 days of 12.5mg Aromasin ED I felt drier than a smoked fish and my joints started to hurt.

The same for the Nolva I received from him, just 10mg ed and nipples sensitivity is gone. So based on my own experience both of these compounds were severely under dosed.

I have Clomid from him as well which will be Joining the rest of his Nolva and Aromasin down the toilet.

It is hard enough to figure out your own baseline with these compounds on your first cycle just to find out that the baseline is bogus because of crappy compounds. Now I am running to 12.5mg al EOD and probably will be until the end of the cycle in 5 weeks. Thanks Obama!!

I'm done with UGL and research labs serms and Ai's.. I'm only using pharm grade from now on.. I'm not taking any chances on my recovery....

 

[samsc744]

I hear you, I have been searching for pharma grade oil but all I can find is overseas. Too late for me to try any on this cycle but definitely in the future.

 

[raysugar1234]

I hear you, I have been searching for pharma grade oil but all I can find is overseas. Too late for me to try any on this cycle but definitely in the future.

It's definitely the best option, do you not have time to wait for it to come from overseas this cycle? It should only take about 2 weeks...

 

[samsc744]

I got around 5 weeks left and with the long ester it would be a lost cause, I will limp this one and plan better next time. I learned a lot though so I can't complain too much