First cycle anavar. Help much appreciated.

[cvictorg]

mr "dr" notice how no one ever said NECESSARY ....i done 100mg anavar cycles and yea its not necessary, yet it has amazing effects - but steroids are not necessary to gain muscle in general at all ...so you mr "dr" are putting words in his mouth he never said

It would be very interesting if you had blood lipids tested before and after your 100mg anavar cycle - I would be willing to wager anything that your HDL was in single digits after the cycle

 

[PS LABS FOUNDER]

Yea Flounder you've probably used more recreational drugs than all members combined on this forum but that doesn't mean your an expert in the use of recreational drugs.
Jim

AGAIN YOUR PUTTING WORDS IN PEOPLES MOUTHS THEY NEVER SAID - YOU ARE JUST PLAINLY OPENLY LYING - I NEVER MENTIONED RECREATIONAL DRUGS YOU ARE A LYING DECEIVER OPNELY AND THERE IS PROOF RIGHT HERE - WHY WOULD ANYONE LISTEN TO ANYTHING YOU SAY AFTER THIS - ITS PROOF RIGHT HERE YOU ARE JUST MAKING THINGS UP! I HOPE EVERY MEMBER ON THIS BOARD SEES THIS SO THEY KNOW WHAT KIND OF PERSON YOU ARE

 

[Dr JIM]

At most discount pharmacies the cost for generic Adex and Novaladex approximate each other at roughly FIFTY centy ach.

However you MUST shop around, because the price for either of these meds, as GENERICs, can reach THREE BUCKS A PILL!

The latter being an absolutely disgusting pharmaceutical sham and approximates "patient gouging" especially if no other pharmacy carries the 50 cent generic within a "one to two hour drive".

Oh crap these drugs only extend the lives of patients with breast cancer and pharm companies should be utterly embarrassed and openly chastised thru congressional oversight and/or hearings. (I know I'm an idealist who enjoys Tren)

Jim

 

[Dr JIM]

What the hell you talking about Flounder has your memory approximated the level of Alzheimer's, COL!

Shit perhaps I shall help you with another epiphany (which explains why many of your posts are not only contradictory but flat out wrong and in a couple instances approximating "hazardous".)

Although you haven't mentioned recs YET on this thread FLOUNDER, do you recall your introductory Meso post and how you were openly criticized for it?

Are you with me still? What were you attempting to sell FLOUNDER? VALIUM and "I have available many other recs thru PLS LABS! Still with me Flounder?

Oh yea so anyone who wants to understand your level of credibility I would direct them to YOUR FIRST THREAD.

Skim over the entire thread to acquire a reasonable understanding of what I contend is your covert agenda, the sale of recreational drugs.

Jim

 

[PS LABS FOUNDER]

it would be very interesting if you had blood lipids tested before and after your 100mg anavar cycle - i would be willing to wager anything that your hdl was in single digits after the cycle

i wouldnt argue with this - but i wouldnt know so i cant really talk about it at all .....but i did not have any massive weight loss or problems at all after the long tern anaavr use that i could see ...i think i just did a simple nolvadex/clomid pct for probably 2-4 weeks afterwords im not even sure ...i do remember i had some acne after cycle but not bad ...but i get acne easy anyways

 

[Dr JIM]

Now VIC did Flounder ever suggest Var at 100 QD was necessary, nope.

(Actually I'll have to scurry thru his posts because he may have in fact suggested 100 doses of Var was GTG because he used that dose also)

Yea VIC that 75mg dose we all know has no effect on lipids (nice point I overlooked) and completely spares the hepatic system.

So not only did Flounder use 75mg QD his use proved it was "safe".

Well shit he did live to talk about it and what more "proof" does one need, lol!

Jim

 

[PS LABS FOUNDER]

SO NOW YOU OPENLY ADMIT I NEVER MENTIONED RECS IN THIS THREAD "YOU CLAIM A COUPLE YEARS AGO IN A DIFFERENT THREAD I MENTION RECS" YEA AND WHERE??? I MENTIONED VALIUM BUT NEVER CALLED IT AS RECREATIONAL USAGE - I HAVE BEEN ON MESO YEARS LONGER THEN YOU SO YOU WOULD HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT MY FIRST THREAD AGAIN YOU ARE OPENLY LYING - AND AS A FACT IT WAS ON HOW TO TURN RAW POWDERS INTO LIQUID ORALS I WAS GIVING OUT RECIPES TO HELP PEOPLE THAT HAD COULD FIND THEIR OWN RAWS
- AGAIN YOU ARE LYING OPENLY ON THIS BOARD -
I NEVER MENTIONED VALIUM AS A RECREATIONAL DRUG - YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE A PERSONAL PROBLEM WITH ME AND STILL NEVER ANSWER ANY OF MY DIRECT QUESTIONS TO YOU
HAVE YOU EVER PERSONALLY USED ANAVAR {OXADROLONE} ?????

What the hell you talking about Flounder has your memory approximated the level of Alzheimer's, COL!

Shit perhaps I shall help you with another epiphany (which explains why many of your posts are not only contradictory but flat out wrong and in a couple instances approximating "hazardous".)

Although you haven't mentioned recs YET on this thread FLOUNDER, do you recall your introductory Meso post and how you were openly criticized for it?

Are you with me still? What were you attempting to sell FLOUNDER? VALIUM and "I have available many other recs thru PLS LABS! Still with me Flounder?

Oh yea so anyone who wants to understand your level of credibility I would direct them to YOUR FIRST THREAD.

Skim over the entire thread to acquire a reasonable understanding of what I contend is your covert agenda, the sale of recreational drugs.

Jim

 

[PS LABS FOUNDER]

You are a straight up piece of american ignorance - your trying to say that i stated 75mg dose od anaavr had no effect on lipids when i never mention that in any of my posts / also show us where i ever say 75mg anavar is "safe"
- your a liar making up things and everyone can see it right here openly on the board - now again ill ask you have you ever used anavar {oxandrolone} yourself "dr"????

now vic did flounder ever suggest var at 100 qd was necessary, nope.

(actually i'll have to scurry thru his posts because he may have in fact suggested 100 doses of var was gtg because he used that dose also)

yea vic that 75mg dose we all know has no effect on lipids (nice point i overlooked) and completely spares the hepatic system.

So not only did flounder use 75mg qd his use proved it was "safe".

Well shit he did live to talk about it and what more "proof" does one need, lol!

Jim

 

[skywalk]

here we go :drama:

OP: I personally have taken 30-50mg var over some different cycles, and during my last cycle, I finally did a blood test to satisfy my curiosity. 30mg of var ED dropped my HDL to 9 after a mere 4 weeks. don't underestimate the danger here. that's why I said keep the doses low, and keep the cycles short. remember, health is #1. do things safely, and don't abuse these substances.

 

[normal]

Alright i will definitely keep it in mind. Thank you all for the information.

 

[PS LABS FOUNDER]

here we go :drama:

Op: I personally have taken 30-50mg var over some different cycles, and during my last cycle, i finally did a blood test to satisfy my curiosity. 30mg of var ed dropped my hdl to 9 after a mere 4 weeks. Don't underestimate the danger here. That's why i said keep the doses low, and keep the cycles short. Remember, health is #1. Do things safely, and don't abuse these substances.

see now you have every right to talk about this and should because you have actual personal experience and had tests done - others that have never done anaavr in their entire life and are telling people how to use it should not even be on here - thanks for sharing man - its good to see a person giving advice from doing it themselves

 

[Dr JIM]

You can ask personal questions until your blue in the face clown but that doesn't change the fact my experience with oxandrolone is not only personal but also professional. That's right let's compare my 20 years of experience with BB and lifters whom have used Var with YOUR BOASTFUL DISCOVERIES of Var's therapeutic window, side effects, and efficacy, tolerance etc.

Your suggestion folks must use a drug to fully understand the it's benefits or side effects is about as STUPID as it comes. Shit flounder I've never taken Cyanide but I know it can kill you, DUH, DUH, DUH!

Likewise I've used acetaminophen on multiple occasions and know liver dysfunction is demonstrable once the dose exceeds roughly 150mg /kg. I also KNOW that those who use Oxanadrolone in a dose which exceeds approximately 20mg/kg/day will likely develop elevated hepatic enzymes. Now I KNOW this FOOL because several studies have shown this to be the case.

So if you want to ingest potentially toxic doses of any drug that's your perogative but the notion we must all use a drug before we can fully "understand it", is an assertion made by either; those whom have only two connecting neurons, are under the influence of recreational drugs, are mentally deranged, are illiterate, have severe pneumocephaly or all the above.

Based on prior experience reading your posts on Meso (God forbid) there's no doubt in my mind ALL of these ailments are responsible to varying degrees. ANY QUESTIONS, LOL!

 

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AGAIN YOUR PUTTING WORDS IN PEOPLES MOUTHS THEY NEVER SAID - YOU ARE JUST PLAINLY OPENLY LYING - I NEVER MENTIONED RECREATIONAL DRUGS YOU ARE A LYING DECEIVER OPNELY AND THERE IS PROOF RIGHT HERE - WHY WOULD ANYONE LISTEN TO ANYTHING YOU SAY AFTER THIS - ITS PROOF RIGHT HERE YOU ARE JUST MAKING THINGS UP! I HOPE EVERY MEMBER ON THIS BOARD SEES THIS SO THEY KNOW WHAT KIND OF PERSON YOU ARE

I believe this is the post Jim is referring to. Note that Millard edited out any reference to the word "Valium" in your sales pitch. That's gotta be bad for business.

I see you enjoy dropping a few Valiums from time to time. Your attitude about the risk for dependency is quite cavalier, though.

 

[Dr JIM]

Now FLOUNDER I've already answered your questions but apparently you are indeed illiterate, lol. However there are a few credible and absolutely trustworthy mates on Meso who know exactly what if any AAS Iv'ed used Flounder.

Obviously your not one of them yet more importantly thank God Meso isn't overcome with clowns of similar ilk as yourself, since apparently NO ONE else believes personal information of that nature is the best means of defining an individuals capabilities, qualifications or credibility.

Now what was that you were saying about NEVER MENTIONING recreational drugs? Yep your right, you were much more interested in their SALE rather than simplified commentary.

Lastly remember that PM I returned? Yep suffice it to say you have succeeded in making an absolute fool of yourself. Well what else can one expect out of a "druggie" whom exaggerates and glorifies "personal experiences" LMFAO!!!

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[PS LABS FOUNDER]

I believe this is the post Jim is referring to. Note that Millard edited out any reference to the word "Valium" in your sales pitch. That's gotta be bad for business.

yes i see and remember this post - but i do not see where i said i was using recreational drugs? do you ?
i see where i talk about using pharmaceuticals yes but i see no mention of recreational drugs {cannabis,amphetamines,cocaine, meth, heroin}
this was also under the open forum board for open selling of PED's which at the time i did not know what PED stood for so i made a honest mistake of mentioning a pharmaceutical that was not a performance enhancing drug and millard simply explained it to me what PED stood for but did not delete my entire thread because it was not about recreational drugs but about pharmaceuticals

 

[PS LABS FOUNDER]

mr fake docotor - you still have not admitted to the lies you said about me and you have yet to answer my question if you personally have ever used oxandrolone {ANAVAR}- i asked about 5 times now and its clear you refuse to answer because you never have used any and therefor do not know how it feels yet are trying to give people advice on something you have never done yourself

Now FLOUNDER I've already answered your questions but apparently you are indeed illiterate, lol. However there are a few credible and absolutely trustworthy mates on Meso who know exactly what if any AAS Iv'ed used Flounder.

Obviously your not one of them yet more importantly thank God Meso isn't overcome with clowns of similar ilk as yourself, since apparently NO ONE else believes personal information of that nature is the best means of defining an individuals capabilities, qualifications or credibility.

Now what was that you were saying about NEVER MENTIONING recreational drugs? Yep your right, you were much more interested in their SALE rather than simplified commentary.

Lastly remember that PM I returned? Yep suffice it to say you have succeeded in making an absolute fool of yourself. Well what else can one expect out of a "druggie" whom exaggerates and glorifies "personal experiences" LMFAO!!!

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[PS LABS FOUNDER]

i still see no mention EVER of me saying anything about recreational drugs?? i mention valium yes that is a pharmaceutical ...just as deca is a pharmaceutical.... just as anavar is a pharmaceutical - now these things can be used as recreational and are used as recreational unless you have them prescribed for a medical condition - so most everyone on here using steroids are using them for recreational usage - however i see no mention of anything other then pharmaceuticals - {no mention of cocaine, meth, heroin,amphetamines} so please keep your lies to yourself "doctor" as anyone can see you have zero support of the things you say i have said you have yet to support any of your ongoing lies about me-you clearly also have a personal problem with me and i do not know or care why, but if you could please stop following me around constantly on nearly ever thread i type in and keep making up lies about me i would appreciate it...also this is strange childlike behavior for someone who claims to be a "dr" - i am asking you politely again to please stop obsessing over me and following me around on every thread i post in, no one else ever does this and you clearly have a obsession or jealousy issue over me so just please leave me alone once again

Now what was that you were saying about NEVER MENTIONING recreational drugs? Yep your right, you were much more interested in their SALE rather than simplified commentary.

Lastly remember that PM I returned? Yep suffice it to say you have succeeded in making an absolute fool of yourself. Well what else can one expect out of a "druggie" whom exaggerates and glorifies "personal experiences" LMFAO!!!

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[Dr JIM]

NOW LET'S APPLY YOUR OPENING COMMENT TO THAT CLOWN WHERE IT'S MOST FITTING!

I quote your exact word Flounder: "I NEVER MENTIONED RECREATIONAL DRUGS" (note no proviso was included)....... Clown you didn't qualify that statement whatsoever. Now you find it convenient to do so as in "USING vs MENTIONED recreational drugs". So are you familiar with the term projection?

I ask because the post where you proclaim; YOU ARE A LYING DECEIVER AND THERE IS PROOF RIGHT THERE- WHY WOULD ANYONE LISTEN TO ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY AFTER THIS - IT'S PROOF RIGHT HERE YOU ARE JUST MAKING THINGS UP.

SO YEA I DO INDEED HOPE EVERY MEMBER SEE'S THIS SO THEY KNOW WHAT KIND OF A PERSON YOU ARE. Damn were you sitting on a commode looking into a mirror when you wrote that shit, because it's projection defined at the finest level!! LMFAO

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[PS LABS FOUNDER]

im very glad you brought this old post up to show and prove that "dr" jim is a liar and has a personal issue with me - "dr" jim claimed just a few posts ago this was my first thread - take a look at my join date in the up right corner {2010} ...now take a look at the date this old thread i wrote was started {2012} = hers is proof right here in front of us this "dr" is making up lies about me - i want EVERYONE TO SEE THIS - "dr" jim is a liar, unhonest person who i would not trust and the proof is right here in front of us that no one can deny he is a liar and a fraud




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I believe this is the post Jim is referring to. Note that Millard edited out any reference to the word "Valium" in your sales pitch. That's gotta be bad for business.

I see you enjoy dropping a few Valiums from time to time. Your attitude about the risk for dependency is quite cavalier, though.

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[PS LABS FOUNDER]

2 of his lies and clearly made up statements - if this fake doctor is lying about this much what else is he making up? - proof fright here - look at my join date {2010} and look at the thread date this fake lying doctor said is my first thread {2012} - i rest my case

What the hell you talking about Flounder has your memory approximated the level of Alzheimer's, COL!

Shit perhaps I shall help you with another epiphany (which explains why many of your posts are not only contradictory but flat out wrong and in a couple instances approximating "hazardous".)

Although you haven't mentioned recs YET on this thread FLOUNDER, do you recall your introductory Meso post and how you were openly criticized for it?

Are you with me still? What were you attempting to sell FLOUNDER? VALIUM and "I have available many other recs thru PLS LABS! Still with me Flounder?

Oh yea so anyone who wants to understand your level of credibility I would direct them to YOUR FIRST THREAD.

Skim over the entire thread to acquire a reasonable understanding of what I contend is your covert agenda, the sale of recreational drugs.

Jim