First cycle....emergency room!

[willie_man]

well then, what a sick sick son of a bitch.lol

Like I said, there is a guy a BB.com that posts the panic attack situations every now and then....just move the story around a bit.

 

[Manuel_Hung]

Have you ever had a panic attack?

I think I know where ur going with this....Panic attacks are real.....many are controlled by SSRI's and benzo to correct the imbalance of GABA and seratonin in the brain.....Until u go through it u have no idea of how real they can be!

 

[MaxRep]

Panic attacks are real and I feel for anyone who suffers them. But is this guy, Mr. Billyiamanidiot, real? I have no doubt but what this guy is full of shit.

It appears to be a classic "stir up the hornet's nest" post, full of idiocy, designed to do nothing more than get everyone going.

Right now he's laughing at all of you who voiced so much concern over his poor, self caused, (made up) situation.

MaxRep

 

[KOMT]

I think

I think you've been suffering from whats called FIA.






FIA = Fuckin' idiot attack

 

[billydidit]

Have you ever had a panic attack?

My first one was two or three hours after my first Deca injection.
Before this I felt like my usual, invincible self.

I noticed that every time i injected over 50mg (which is not that much) I would shortly thereafter get that same horrible feeling.

-bj

 

[billydidit]

Personally I think you shouldn't take any roids. Firts and foremost you smoke bud, you haven't done any research simply because you are asking very basic questions. You need to do alot more research and learn about roids, diet and training. You haven't mentioned anything about your diet or training. WHy would a doctor tell you if the Deca was real? This whole story is full of PURE BULLSHIT and LIES. You sound like a teenager.

My response to you is RESEARCH,RESEARCH and do more RESEARCH about roids. Don't come back with a reply stating I did my research, because it's plain as day you haven't. If you did some research you would have known that a Deca only cycle isn't advised, also a Winstrol only cycle isn't advised either. Some other guys on the board might help you but I don't help those who either sound underage or plain out shouldn't be taking roids.

OK First off I am 28 years old. I played football, soccer, wrestling, track, and baseball throughout JHS and HS. I tested in the dunk tank at Central Washington University at 6% body fat. I weighed 195 lbs, could curl 164lbs (house record at my gym for my class), and could break a 5 minute mile. Also in HS i ran a 4.4 40 so I must have been doing something right. I went to Central Washington University and did not have the time/funds to play football so I played rugby. I played first side Fullback and Inside Center. I have played against such schools as University of Wash, Washington State Uninv, Stanford, BYU,... the list goes on. I still have at least three records at my high school, and I know this because I just went back for my 10 year renunion.

As far as research, I must have read 20 hours of material that all seemed to say the same thing. "Deca is widely used and well tolerated" "Low side effects"
I also started with what I thought was a low amount to let myself get used to it.

I am no LIAR and do not concider myself a dumbass. I have a BS Degree in Mathematics. I admit that the pot smoking was a bad idea and I have quit. I thought it would be OK and calm me down and I saw Arnold S. doing it so I didn't think it would interact. have not read anything that said it would interact.

So instead of hurling insults at me perhaps you could try and help me out by suggesting what else I need to do to make this Winnie cycle a success. I have been sitting at a desk since 2000 as an Actuary and Computer Programmer and I'm down to 175 lbs. It just sucks. I dont have three hours a day to train anymore and I want to be big again. It took two years to get to 215 for Rugby and I was bucking three string timothy hay bales (Ellensburg, WA), lifting, running 15 miles a week, and eating 5,000 cals a day.

So as it sits right now I am about to recieve 100 50mg winnies and some clomid. Besides protien shakes and a gallon of water a day, what do you suggest?

 

[billydidit]

Just think about the one who he got his gear from. This sounds like the kind of guy that would narc you out in a heartbeat. They do something stupid, like take gear as though they are experimenting with rec drugs, then have a bad reaction, no matter what the cause, and suddenly the gear is evil. Don't waste your money on gear, use it to clean up your system, and find some things called weights and start working out.

I have never ratted anyone out. I was the hook up man in college. Can we keep to the point here please?

 

[billydidit]

It wasnt the deca, being that it takes a while for the deca to get into you system. It sounds like a panic attack to me.

I have suffered from panic attacks and anxiety for almost 10 years now and you systems sound exactly like when i went to the emergency room when i was 17. In the past ten years I have learned how to control my anxiety and I am on Paxil for it too.

During my first cycle about 5 years ago, I experience panic attacks while on. I have to admit that when im on cycle i am more prone to feeling anxious and having a panic attack here and there.

My advise to you is to get your anxiety under a bit more controll before you cycle. I know from first hand experience exactly what you went through and how you felt. It SUCKS. I wouldnt want my worst enemy to experience panic attacks and for all you who are reading this, it truely is the most horrible thing you can go through. Its really not a "mental" thing, but rather a chemical imbalance involving Serotonin (sp?). Anyone who hasnt had a panic attack does not know how horrible they really are.

Good luck to you bro, and if your stubborn like me and want to continue the juice, when you feel a panic attack comming on, relax and know that YOU WILL NOT DIE. no one has ever died from a panic attack. You'll get through it and you will be fine in a few minutes.

Peace..kelly

PS...also deca only?? so long mister hard on...throw in some test bro

Thank you so much. Finally someone who understands. Everything you said is exact what I needed to hear. My doc has suggested SSRI's (paxil, lexapro) and I believe that I will quit with these clonazepam pills and get some real medication for this problem. You are right, these panic attacks are the most horrible thing that anyone could go through.

As far as roids, I am one stubborn SOB and I do intend to at least have one successful cycle and that is why I am here. For advice from those with experience. I will not start the 50mg winstrol until I am sure that I have the right stack and that I have the anxiety situation under control.

What should I take with winstrol?

Thanks again,

-bj

 

[billydidit]

Panic attacks are real and I feel for anyone who suffers them. But is this guy, Mr. Billyiamanidiot, real? I have no doubt but what this guy is full of shit.

It appears to be a classic "stir up the hornet's nest" post, full of idiocy, designed to do nothing more than get everyone going.

Right now he's laughing at all of you who voiced so much concern over his poor, self caused, (made up) situation.

MaxRep

Screw you. I am not here to cause problems...But if you have a problem with me, I will be happy to take you to school. Anytime you are in Seattle...

 

[esco]

Screw you. I am not here to cause problems...But if you have a problem with me, I will be happy to take you to school. Anytime you are in Seattle...

school or no school, he could just ban you from the board.

 

[billydidit]

school or no school, he could just ban you from the board.

OK, Then let me say that I am sorry to MaxRep. Just getting frustrated with the negative posts.

 

[georgie24]

anxiety is no joke, that shit will cripple you and bring you to your knee's no matter how ripped your are no matter how big your are no matter how much money you have.

anxiety is evil

 

[Tank01]

Now.. if you ever hit a vein and have an embolism you will know it..it happens within seconds of injecting or while your injecting....not minutes or hours after... You'll be injecting and BAM..You'll feel like someone slammed you in the chest with a baseball bat..you'll get VERY hot..and you'll cough so bad that you think you'll die (which you actually can)...

God, I went through a vein once and when I pulled back out a drop of oil got into my blood stream... perfect description of what it feels like... I blacked out for a second, got extreamly hot, coughed like no ones buissness... and kept coughing straight for about 5 minutes... then for the next month i was hacking shit up... fucked up... that was durring my first cycle though... now im more experienced... I hope

 

[Massive690]

As far as roids, I am one stubborn SOB and I do intend to at least have one successful cycle and that is why I am here. For advice from those with experience. I will not start the 50mg winstrol until I am sure that I have the right stack and that I have the anxiety situation under control.

What should I take with winstrol?

Thanks again,

-bj

if you are trying to get huge why the hell are you taking winny???
why dont you try some test enanthate or cypionate??? try reading phreezers first cycle sticky at the top of the forum.

 

[hiramabiff]

Take your fake ass story away from Meso...What a joke!! Sounds bogus at best.."We don't believe you...You need more people" Jay-Z

 

[joel]

i took 2cc of sus in one week and the next week i sorta had the same feeling but not as bad i did feel a little sick and my hart rate went up but i did not puke i knew it was all metal because my friend took some and he was fine so after i knew that it was just me i keeped my mind busy and i forgot about the whole thing


the trick is to keep the mind busy so you dont have time to think about thats what i did and it worked but usally it is normal to be nervous the first time it is a extrem drug

 

[Hypertrophiac]

i know the answer!

1. you're a pussy and scared of shots
2. even after you take the shot you're still scared of it
3. you're a hypochondriac and give yourself a panic attack after every shot

quit being a pussy, do your own shots, not have your buddy give them to you. needles don't hurt. have your buddy punch you in the face before you give yourself the shot, then you'll realize that needles dont really hurt. do not smoke weed around the time when you give yourself a shot, it will only make you paranoid and have a panic attack.

the only other possible explanation is that your buddy is giving you the shot in the wrong place. he might be sticking it too low on your glute if you're doing a glute shot and you're hitting the sciatic nerve. try doing the shot in your deltoid where there are no nerves or veins to hit. make sure you're using a 25guage 1inch needle unless you're really skinny and lean then you could get away with a 25guage 5/8th inch needle.

 

[billydidit]

OK bros,

I cant believe that this post is still getting views because so much has happened since my Deca/panic episode.

Let me give you an update.

1) I did a lot of research and found out that what I was injecting was not Deca. That is why I felt the effects so soon after the injections. I spent way too much money overseas and got ripped off. Stupid mistake. Could have cost me my life.

2) I took advice from members and cleaned my ststem out, became a heath nut, and lifted without AAS for two months (at least). I brought my weight back up to 190 lbs and started taking Lexapro (an SSRI). I also take Klonapin (clonazapam) but don't feel the need for it as the panic attacks are no longer an issue. Perhaps I just needed to get that shit out of my system or maybe the Lexapro keeps anxiety in check. Regardless I feel great.

3) I am on day 19 of a 10 week cycle. 150mg Test Prop EoD, 400mg EQ once a week, and 20mg Nolva every day. I decided to save the Winny for the last 5 weeks of this cycle and dose at 50 to 100mg ED depending on how it treats me. So far I feel great and have been using 1.5" 22 gauge and I LOVE THE SHOTS! I LOVE EoD when I get that test!! I also have Clomid ready to take for about 5 weeks starting the day after my last Winny tab, because I assume that I will be shut down pretty hard.

4) I am eating like a horse and drinking at least a gallon of water a day, taking a multi vitamin, taking a fiber pill at bedtime, and getting good sleep. My wife is starting to notice that I am looking ripped and guys at the gym stare at me every now and then. I have just started to notice that my strength is increasing and I am loving it. 6' and 195 lbs and I still have 7 weeks to go.

5) I have a digital camera for those who need proof. I must give a big bump to Dude for his help. Thanks Bro. Also, thanks to those who took me seriously and offered advice and support. I think that this forum is great. I have learned a lot and it has changed my life for the better.

6) One confession...I could not stop smoking bud for more than 8 weeks. But I think that it helps me sleep better. Anyone have any input? I was sick last week (not real sick, but I didn't go to work...I still lifted...hahaha)
and now I feel like my lungs are irritated or something. If you know what this is let me know.

Peace out bros,

billydidit

 

[Starkraven]

Anxiety

it wasn't the deca, more likely the weed. you were probably worried about the deca shot while faded and this happened. weed sometimes makes me real nervous like im going to have a panic/anxiety attack. and for no reason. just worried about things. it could be anything. most of the time it makes me calm and comfortable so i do it sometimes. 3 years ago i was walking down the street with my friend and all of a sudden my heart began skipping beats. i usually get these heart palpitations and it feels like a big thump in the middle of my chest and it IS in fact your heart but you feel it in the middle somehow. And it skipped 50 beats or beated an extra 50 beats i cant desribe the feeling but i thought i was having a heart attack and i dont know why. i was in a stressed time although now when i look back at it, i really cant believe what i was stressed about!! (note: i turn 22 in 4 days and i was 19) But anyway it happened and i remember looking over at my friend and telling him "dude, i dont wanna die" and i CAN'T believe it but i really though those were my last words. That was the closest experience i had with death, or at least I thought it was. it was the most horrible experience ever. it truly sucked. Later at the hospital, i was told it was an anxiety attack and was given a valium.

Still, after that, i knew it wasnt over for some reason i could still feel it in my heart. the misery continued and it began a viscious cycle of paranoia. i wouldnt even leave my friends house to drive 2 miles to my house without freaking out. i was realling turning into a bitch!! Its all i would think about and i couldnt believe it. I was like a paranoid motherfucker! ALL THE TIME 24/7. my heart would beat HARD (not fast) and would then PALPITATE just like the anxiety attack i had but a few beats instead of the 50 i had. I would get this if i thought about it too much (and i couldnt help it!!), while leaving the house, going to traffic court!! or even visitng a girl i liked (getting nervous raises BP a little). i couldnt believe this was happening and i thought it would never end. it happened when i started training again a few weeks after the attack!! i thought i was going to have a heart attack in the gym and i would go into the tanning section real fast just in case i died i didnt want anyone to see me collapse or anything. on dbol i was so bad all i did was train, and eat and sit in my room shuffling cards on my bed for hours on end. i remember training one evening and i couldnt believe the anxiety i was having. i was in venice at the firehouse after training at the gold's and i couldnt even look up i was so miserable and paranoid and anxious i just wanted to go home and lock my door and shuffle some cards or something.

it took me 1 year of misery (attack happened in jan 2002 ended about a year later). I noticed that not much happened and i had nothing to worry about. sometimes i would still get the heart palps and get scared real quick but then i didnt die or anything, so anytime it happened after that, i told my anxiety to shut the fuck up and i started talking shit to myself!! and in public sometimes, too! So, as the months went by, it faded. and i started thinking less and less about it. All along I was giving myself anxiety attacks!!

OK bros,

I cant believe that this post is still getting views because so much has happened since my Deca/panic episode.

Let me give you an update.

1) I did a lot of research and found out that what I was injecting was not Deca. That is why I felt the effects so soon after the injections. I spent way too much money overseas and got ripped off. Stupid mistake. Could have cost me my life.

2) I took advice from members and cleaned my ststem out, became a heath nut, and lifted without AAS for two months (at least). I brought my weight back up to 190 lbs and started taking Lexapro (an SSRI). I also take Klonapin (clonazapam) but don't feel the need for it as the panic attacks are no longer an issue. Perhaps I just needed to get that shit out of my system or maybe the Lexapro keeps anxiety in check. Regardless I feel great.

3) I am on day 19 of a 10 week cycle. 150mg Test Prop EoD, 400mg EQ once a week, and 20mg Nolva every day. I decided to save the Winny for the last 5 weeks of this cycle and dose at 50 to 100mg ED depending on how it treats me. So far I feel great and have been using 1.5" 22 gauge and I LOVE THE SHOTS! I LOVE EoD when I get that test!! I also have Clomid ready to take for about 5 weeks starting the day after my last Winny tab, because I assume that I will be shut down pretty hard.

4) I am eating like a horse and drinking at least a gallon of water a day, taking a multi vitamin, taking a fiber pill at bedtime, and getting good sleep. My wife is starting to notice that I am looking ripped and guys at the gym stare at me every now and then. I have just started to notice that my strength is increasing and I am loving it. 6' and 195 lbs and I still have 7 weeks to go.

5) I have a digital camera for those who need proof. I must give a big bump to Dude for his help. Thanks Bro. Also, thanks to those who took me seriously and offered advice and support. I think that this forum is great. I have learned a lot and it has changed my life for the better.

6) One confession...I could not stop smoking bud for more than 8 weeks. But I think that it helps me sleep better. Anyone have any input? I was sick last week (not real sick, but I didn't go to work...I still lifted...hahaha)
and now I feel like my lungs are irritated or something. If you know what this is let me know.

Peace out bros,

billydidit

 

[Starkraven]

BTW I am glad things are working out better for you. How did you find out what you injected wasnt deca? Also, if you are doing fine with the weed, then i guess its cool. i personally like it but i dont use now. im cool without it and dont fene for it at all but i do like to take a hit or two and relax. i dont prefer to get fucked up and real high.

I personally never took any anxiety meds simply because deep down somewhere i still knew i could get out of my anxiety without any medication and if i did take meds, i would never know if i am truly fighting my anxiety off (which i did successfully) or become addicted to it, pyschologically or physiologically. so i never used it and what i thought or visioned, helped me. good luck.

OK bros,

I cant believe that this post is still getting views because so much has happened since my Deca/panic episode.

Let me give you an update.

1) I did a lot of research and found out that what I was injecting was not Deca. That is why I felt the effects so soon after the injections. I spent way too much money overseas and got ripped off. Stupid mistake. Could have cost me my life.

2) I took advice from members and cleaned my ststem out, became a heath nut, and lifted without AAS for two months (at least). I brought my weight back up to 190 lbs and started taking Lexapro (an SSRI). I also take Klonapin (clonazapam) but don't feel the need for it as the panic attacks are no longer an issue. Perhaps I just needed to get that shit out of my system or maybe the Lexapro keeps anxiety in check. Regardless I feel great.

3) I am on day 19 of a 10 week cycle. 150mg Test Prop EoD, 400mg EQ once a week, and 20mg Nolva every day. I decided to save the Winny for the last 5 weeks of this cycle and dose at 50 to 100mg ED depending on how it treats me. So far I feel great and have been using 1.5" 22 gauge and I LOVE THE SHOTS! I LOVE EoD when I get that test!! I also have Clomid ready to take for about 5 weeks starting the day after my last Winny tab, because I assume that I will be shut down pretty hard.

4) I am eating like a horse and drinking at least a gallon of water a day, taking a multi vitamin, taking a fiber pill at bedtime, and getting good sleep. My wife is starting to notice that I am looking ripped and guys at the gym stare at me every now and then. I have just started to notice that my strength is increasing and I am loving it. 6' and 195 lbs and I still have 7 weeks to go.

5) I have a digital camera for those who need proof. I must give a big bump to Dude for his help. Thanks Bro. Also, thanks to those who took me seriously and offered advice and support. I think that this forum is great. I have learned a lot and it has changed my life for the better.

6) One confession...I could not stop smoking bud for more than 8 weeks. But I think that it helps me sleep better. Anyone have any input? I was sick last week (not real sick, but I didn't go to work...I still lifted...hahaha)
and now I feel like my lungs are irritated or something. If you know what this is let me know.

Peace out bros,

billydidit