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First Cycle: EQ 300mg/Test Mix 500mg

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SirWalrus

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Hello, im new to this forum, im new to AAS too. However i have done my research on AAS and i think im ready to start my first cycle. I am looking to bulk and maintain a good appetite - hence why EQ is in this cycle.

I will cycle for 10 weeks (pinning every monday, max 3ml @first 2 wks), and i will run test 2 weeks after EQ (EQ for 8 wks front-loaded on week 1 & 2 @ 600mgs, 2ml). I will wait 2 weeks after last shot to start PCT which involves clomid and nolva. I am also thinking of adding dbol (8am @10mg, 4pm @20mg) for 3wks. Here it so far:

Test@250mg/ml - EQ@300mg/ml - Dbol@10mg/tab

wk 1: Test 1ml EW + EQ 2ml EW + Dbol 3tabs ED
wk 2: Test 1ml EW+ EQ 2ml EW + Dbol 3tabs ED
wk 3: Test 1ml EW + EQ 1ml EW + Dbol 3tabs ED
wk 4: Test 1ml EW + EQ 1ml EW
wk 5: Test 1ml EW + EQ 1ml EW
wk 6: Test 1ml EW + EQ 1ml EW
wk 7: Test 1ml EW + EQ 1ml EW
wk 8: Test 1ml EW + EQ 1ml EW
wk 9: Test 1ml EW
wk 10: Test 1ml EW

My Stats:
13st, 4lbs (i have minimal fat even @3000calories a day - my metabolism is so fast)
3 years in and & of gym (lost motivation & regained it)
height im practically 6ft
i am fairly skinny but with an ok amount of muscle - low fat

PCT:
wk 13: Clomid 50mg ED + nolvadex 20mg ED
wk 14: Clomid 50mg ED + nolvadex 20mg ED
wk 15: Clomid 25mg ED

I am hoping to gain at-least 10lbs on this cycle however i am not expecting a lot of gains. So whats ur advice/opinion guys? My PCT i dont think is good enough?

Thanks
 
You're not dosing the EQ properly. Save it for the next cycle. Just use test for this run. Not a fan of dbol for a 1st run on AAS. You don't mention AI's? If they are not there stop what you're doing and research more before you pin anything!!! You have much to learn. Hope you stop and learn before you start pinning. EQ won't even kick in till 8-10 weeks it should be run minimum 600 a week for 16 - 20 weeks. Seriously dude save you're gear and money. This layout is wasting. Read on and you'll see.


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It shows you have done some research, but just keep it simple for the 1st cycle man... Just run 500 mg of test a week (250mg 2x a week) and see how the body responds... If it responds well then add another compound to your next cycle... And run pct for 4 weeks not 3
 
Daveb8573 said:
You're not dosing the EQ properly. Save it for the next cycle. Just use test for this run. Not a fan of dbol for a 1st run on AAS. You don't mention AI's? If they are not there stop what you're doing and research more before you pin anything!!! You have much to learn. Hope you stop and learn before you start pinning. EQ won't even kick in till 8-10 weeks it should be run minimum 600 a week for 16 - 20 weeks. Seriously dude save you're gear and money. This layout is wasting. Read on and you'll see.


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Ok thanks for the advice. I'll drop the EQ and use a test mix@250mg/2x a week. The only reason the EQ was there was for appetite boosting and the extra boost but I will leave it out this cycle and use test only. Should I kickstart with dbol or just test? Thanks
 
w1ck3d said:
It shows you have done some research, but just keep it simple for the 1st cycle man... Just run 500 mg of test a week (250mg 2x a week) and see how the body responds... If it responds well then add another compound to your next cycle... And run pct for 4 weeks not 3
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Okay thanks for the adivce. Very useful I have enough clomid for 6 weeks @50mg ED so I I'll use clomid for 4 weeks. Should I use nolvadex keeping in mind that it's going to be just test?
 
SirWalrus said:
Ok thanks for the advice. I'll drop the EQ and use a test mix@250mg/2x a week. The only reason the EQ was there was for appetite boosting and the extra boost but I will leave it out this cycle and use test only. Should I kickstart with dbol or just test? Thanks
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Seriously dude for a 1st cycle you'll love what you get from the test by itself... enjoy every step it's a marathon not a sprint


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Daveb8573 said:
Seriously dude for a 1st cycle you'll love what you get from the test by itself... enjoy every step it's a marathon not a sprint


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Ok thanks for the advice. I'll use just test this cycle. What do u think 10weeks or 12weeks?
 
Pin 250 Monday and 250 Thursday and take an arimidex 1. each time you pin it keeps it simple.


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Daveb8573 said:
You're not dosing the EQ properly. Save it for the next cycle. Just use test for this run. Not a fan of dbol for a 1st run on AAS. You don't mention AI's? If they are not there stop what you're doing and research more before you pin anything!!! You have much to learn. Hope you stop and learn before you start pinning. EQ won't even kick in till 8-10 weeks it should be run minimum 600 a week for 16 - 20 weeks. Seriously dude save you're gear and money. This layout is wasting. Read on and you'll see.
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I agree with this. Save your EQ for the next cycle and run it at 600mg for 16 weeks with 500mg test for 16 weeks, followed by 500mg of test prop for 4 weeks while the EQ clears your system..

Running it how you have stated is a waste.
 
Test_Subject said:
I agree with this. Save your EQ for the next cycle and run it at 600mg for 16 weeks with 500mg test for 16 weeks, followed by 500mg of test prop for 4 weeks while the EQ clears your system..

Running it how you have stated is a waste.
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Yeh i agree that the EQ is a waste now. I'm going to just run test. Thanks
 
lol I have this as a note saved in my phone.

Get blood work to know your pre cycle stats.
Test e/c 500mg/wk - Weeks 10-12 split into two pins a week.
Adex .25-.5 eod adjusted as needed.
Hcg 500iu/wk - weeks 1-10or12 split into two subq pins weeks 1-12.
Get mid cycle bloods to adjust your ai properly and see if your gear is dosed correctly.
Wait roughly 3 weeks from last pin to begin pct
Clomid 100/50/50/25
Nolva 40/20/20/10
 
SirWalrus said:
Okay thanks for the adivce. Very useful I have enough clomid for 6 weeks @50mg ED so I I'll use clomid for 4 weeks. Should I use nolvadex keeping in mind that it's going to be just test?
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Personally i dont use both... I just use the clomid coming off... But its good to have both on hands incase you get sides from clomid... And i know people use novladex on cycle if they experience gyno issues.... Personally i would just pct clomid 100/100/50/50
 
BigSky said:
lol I have this as a note saved in my phone.

Get blood work to know your pre cycle stats.
Test e/c 500mg/wk - Weeks 10-12 split into two pins a week.
Adex .25-.5 eod adjusted as needed.
Hcg 500iu/wk - weeks 1-10or12 split into two subq pins weeks 1-12.
Get mid cycle bloods to adjust your ai properly and see if your gear is dosed correctly.
Wait roughly 3 weeks from last pin to begin pct
Clomid 100/50/50/25
Nolva 40/20/20/10
Click to expand...

That's very helpful thanks a lot
 
BigSky said:
lol I have this as a note saved in my phone.

Get blood work to know your pre cycle stats.
Test e/c 500mg/wk - Weeks 10-12 split into two pins a week.
Adex .25-.5 eod adjusted as needed.
Hcg 500iu/wk - weeks 1-10or12 split into two subq pins weeks 1-12.
Get mid cycle bloods to adjust your ai properly and see if your gear is dosed correctly.
Wait roughly 3 weeks from last pin to begin pct
Clomid 100/50/50/25
Nolva 40/20/20/10
Click to expand...

That's very helpful thanks a lot
 
w1ck3d said:
Personally i dont use both... I just use the clomid coming off... But its good to have both on hands incase you get sides from clomid... And i know people use novladex on cycle if they experience gyno issues.... Personally i would just pct clomid 100/100/50/50
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Ok I'll use clomid in that ratio after the test 250mg 2x a week I'll be using adex throughout too
 
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