First cycle ever, Test E + ?

[Bluehead]

Sup guys,
I'm starting my first cycle ever soon hopefully once I find a decent source, however, i feel like sharing it with you guys since i'm trying to get involved in this forum.

Stats: Age 19 (20 in april), bodyfat 8% (measured in college since its a part of my program), height 5'10~, weight 150lb.

Cycle:
Test E: 500~mg wk (1-12)
HCG: (still thinking about the doses, any help here is appreciated)
Adex: .25 or maybe .5mg ED (1-12)
Clomid; 100/100/50/50
Nov: 50/50/25/25 or 50/50/50/50
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My goal pretty much is to get bigger while still keeping the bf% low, i like the cut look all year round, maybe i'll think of bulking during next winter.

Any suggestions or additions to my cycle is welcomed.

Thanks,
Bluehead.

 

[boxer15]

too small, too young. come back in 5-6 years.

 

[Bluehead]

too small, too young. come back in 5-6 years.

I dont know why boxer, but i feel like im going to die young (no reference to stupid new generation songs intended here) so i'm trying to achieve as much as i can

 

[SkankHunt]

My suggestion:

Your bodies endocrine system isn't even matured yet. Your test levels are at their highest right now. Judging by the fact your 5'10 and 150lb do you have any experience weight lifting? Or you started lifting 6 months ago and hit your "plateau".

Stay natural for a few more years.

 

[Bluehead]

My suggestion:

Your bodies endocrine system isn't even matured yet. Your test levels are at their highest right now. Judging by the fact your 5'10 and 150lb do you have any experience weight lifting? Or you started lifting 6 months ago and hit your "plateau".

Stay natural for a few more years.

Been lifting since I was 16, started out at like 100lb (ectomorph here) and i'm currently enrolled in a Fitness and Health promotion program at a local college so I'm sure i know how to lift and manage my diet. I workout enough and at the level where people ask me how often i workout.

Thanks for the concern though SerraJitsu, cheers

 

[SkankHunt]

16 years old - 100lbs
19 years old - 150lbs

You put on 50 pounds naturally, why change that?

I'm not trying to come off as a dick I'm just curious and trying to offer advice.

 

[Bluehead]

16 years old - 100lbs
19 years old - 150lbs

You put on 50 pounds naturally, why change that?

I'm not trying to come off as a dick I'm just curious and trying to offer advice.

Part of that weight was growth in general from a kid to an adult, but nowadays my progress has slowed down by a lot and I won't be able to get where I want to look like given the current growth rate. My diet has improved and i never really tried bulk/cut stuff because i honestly think it doesn't work as well naturally without a test boost.

You're not coming off as dick at all, i'm just a little kid compared to you guys and I appreciate any advice given since you guys probably lived twice as i have if not more. Glad to live in the internet age eh.

 

[ranman32566]

You should listen to some of these people here...BUILD A FOUNDATION FIRST

 

[03xx52]

Lift and pursue strength gains, your endocrine system does not need any boosting. Eat big and you will gain muscle, 150 at 5'10" is small, eat like a horse. No trying to offend you but if you keep posting in here guys are going to continually give you a hard time.
*** You probably will not die young, I did not and I played with terry in Afghanistan. You have a long life ahead of you embrace it and stop trying to accelerate things.

 

[Dr JIM]

Your 19 and considering a "cycle"? Why? Your TT is at it's max at this juncture. Have you even checked your TT, E-2 and LH levels yet? NOT!

When it comes to BB one of the WORST thoughts I've heard from those less than 25 yrs is the belief CYCLING must begin in earnest, NOT.

Why? Because about the only legitimate NEED a cycle must commence is said individual is actively involved in competitive BB, and I've yet to encounter anyone with that logic from those less than 25 years old!

One of the more troubling reasons those less than 25 should not cycle is their fund of knowledge, about the entire gamut, from Risk Factors, Dosing, AAS half lives, PCT, lab tests, cycle combos etc is sorely lacking.

And rest assured your NO EXCEPTION.

My suggestion study the entire process, from cycling to PCT, for a year or two then start a Meso thread of those questions which persist.

Do this because of what you READ rather than what you've HEARD in some gym, where some don't understand the difference between PCT and HTN!

I'd the Meso home page is a great beginning for those interested in LEARNING about AAS, PCT, RF etc.


Jimmy

 

[Bluehead]

Lift and pursue strength gains, your endocrine system does not need any boosting. Eat big and you will gain muscle, 150 at 5'10" is small, eat like a horse. No trying to offend you but if you keep posting in here guys are going to continually give you a hard time.
*** You probably will not die young, I did not and I played with terry in Afghanistan. You have a long life ahead of you embrace it and stop trying to accelerate things.

Your 19 and considering a "cycle"? Why? Your TT is at it's max at this juncture. Have you even checked your TT, E-2 and LH levels yet? NOT!

When it comes to BB one of the WORST thoughts I've heard from those less than 25 yrs is the belief CYCLING must begin in earnest, NOT.

Why? Because about the only legitimate NEED a cycle must commence is said individual is actively involved in competitive BB, and I've yet to encounter anyone with that logic from those less than 25 years old!

One of the more troubling reasons those less than 25 should not cycle is their fund of knowledge, about the entire gamut, from Risk Factors, Dosing, AAS half lives, PCT, lab tests, cycle combos etc is sorely lacking.

And rest assured your NO EXCEPTION.

My suggestion study the entire process, from cycling to PCT, for a year or two then start a Meso thread of those questions which persist.

Do this because of what you READ rather than what you've HEARD in some gym, where some don't understand the difference between PCT and HTN!

I'd the Meso home page is a great beginning for those interested in LEARNING about AAS, PCT, RF etc.


Jimmy

First of all, thank you both for sharing your insights.
I didn't decide to start a cycle because of what i heard, in fact if that was the case i would stay as away from gear as possible because the guys in my gym don't know what they're doing. I'm taking a physiology class and done reading on AAS so you can be assured that I'm not doing it from what i heard, but rather from what i read.

 

[03xx52]

You don't get it do you? I am sure your freshman physiology class will help the long term damage you will do to your body. Have fun with your hypothalamus.

 

[Bluehead]

You don't get it do you? I am sure your freshman physiology class will help the long term damage you will do to your body. Have fun with your hypothalamus.

What is exactly it is that you think is wrong with doing it at my current age, enlighten me.

 

[03xx52]

I'm not going to waste my time with you...good luck.

 

[2jz]

They are saying that starting a cycle at such a young age could ruin your natural test. And at 19-20 years old probably isnt the right age to make a decision if you want to poke your self everyday for the rest of your life just to be able to get your dick hard. When I was 20 years old i wanted to do nothing but run a cycle i wanted it so bad but quickly realized i was too young and way to inexperienced. Ive worked out religiously starting at the age of 16 im now 27 and at 27 i finally started running my first cycle just over a week ago and one of the biggest decisions to run it was i found out i have had low test levels for a few years now. Its your body and you will do what you please. cant blame you for that most of us are like that. These guys are just trying to warn you of what life could be like in 5-10 years if you start cycling at your age. If you do decide to cycle make sure you find a good trusted source good luck and be safe and study everything you can. Fill your brain with knowlegde before diving in.

 

[EnduroPro]

I was about your size at your age. Had a roomate move in during college that was muscled up and strong as an ox and he hooked me up with a couple of cycles. Didn't know what the hell I was doing or even why for that matter but it was fun, good for gettin chics who like buf guys, and its a helluva rush to see the size and strength gains that come with this stuff. That was 30 years ago. I had no clue that doing only 2 cycles was lead to a life of TRT due low T by my late 30's. It may have shut down ever earlier that - at some point I just ended up so damn tired and depressed all the time that I started looking for answers and thats when I learned of the problem. I'm a little guy by nature. I say "little" only as compared to how big I tried to be and compared to BB in general. When I was young, I guess I was trying to be something that wasn't meant for me. I'm a fit 170 now and in no way do I see myself as small. What I should have done when I was 20 is enjoy being fit, lean, ripped, and 155. You can do things at 150lbs that you cannot do at a bigger size. Dude, trust me, keep doing what your doing and the size you are meant to have will come to you as your muscles mature and this takes a little time. Look at MMA fighters who are your height. Their weight ranges from 135-205. The 135 lb guys are just as badass as the 205 lb guys and if they tried to be bigger they would do themselves a disservice. I feel so much better being fit at my 'natural' weight and in the long run, you will too. Best of luck with your decision.