First cycle info.

[Patuba]

Hi all,

I'm planning my first cycle for sometime in Feb or March, here is what it looks like:

Test Ent 250mg, 2 injections a week, Monday and Thursday for 8-10 weeks. I'll start off with 8 and if I feel like I can still gain more I would do 10.

I was thinking of using dbol at 20mg ED for 4 weeks but I thought that might be too much for my first cycle.

Post cycle Nolva 40mg I week after last shot for 2 weeks, then 20mg a day for 2 more weeks

Any suggestions is appreciated.

 

[The-Juice-Man]

Okay

Hi all,

I'm planning my first cycle for sometime in Feb or March, here is what it looks like:

Test Ent 250mg, 2 injections a week, Monday and Thursday for 8-10 weeks. I'll start off with 8 and if I feel like I can still gain more I would do 10.

I was thinking of using dbol at 20mg ED for 4 weeks but I thought that might be too much for my first cycle.

Post cycle Nolva 40mg I week after last shot for 2 weeks, then 20mg a day for 2 more weeks

Any suggestions is appreciated.

I would up the d-bol a little to 35 or 40mg's a day

You can get away with injecting that enth once a week. Looks like you want to run 500mgs a week. I would keep that. At the end et some clomid and hcg also. But make sure you have the nolv on hand in case of gyno symptoms. and last...Good luck.

 

[Patuba]

I was originally thinking about injecting the Test En. once a week but at BB.com people told me to do it twice a week. One reason I choose Test En. because I thought I would only have to inject once a week.

Do you think Dbol is too much for a first cycle or should I use it? I'm debating if I should do a Test only cycle for my first.

 

[big roid]

through in some deca and forget the d-bol for the first cycle. Run clomid and novladex post cycle.

 

[wolfman]

I was originally thinking about injecting the Test En. once a week but at BB.com people told me to do it twice a week. One reason I choose Test En. because I thought I would only have to inject once a week.

Do you think Dbol is too much for a first cycle or should I use it? I'm debating if I should do a Test only cycle for my first.

My first cycle was virtully identical to the one you have outlined...I ran 500mg test enan. shot once/wk. for 8 weeks and 30mg d-bol ed for the first 4 weeks...Oh yea, definitely have some nolva or ari. on hand as there's a good chance this cycle may lead to gyno-it did for me atleast...If I could do it again I'd have ran the test for 12 weeks instead...Good luck man.

-wolfman

 

[The-Juice-Man]

Bro

My first cycle was virtully identical to the one you have outlined...I ran 500mg test enan. shot once/wk. for 8 weeks and 30mg d-bol ed for the first 4 weeks...Oh yea, definitely have some nolva or ari. on hand as there's a good chance this cycle may lead to gyno-it did for me atleast...If I could do it again I'd have ran the test for 12 weeks instead...Good luck man.

-wolfman

First cycle I did is the same one I am doing as we speek.
but I uped it for my experiance.

fist cycle was

1-12 500mg enth
1-4dbol 40 mgs
1-12 deca 300 mgs



I would suggest throwing the deca in there and uping the d-bol. I have good sources for these just pm me.

 

[ThePatriot]

If your afraid to stick yourself that much than yes 250 would be fine. But for your first cycle I would do 500. Youll see great fucken results. The first one is always teh best.

 

[T-Rex]

Patuba, got some good advice up there...the only thing I would add, and it depends on your genetic pre-disposition, is Proscar (finasteride). This is basically Propecia X4. Proscar is typically 5 mg of finasteride (propecia is 1) and willhelp block the DHT levels that will spike to 4 times their normal level......translation....your hair will fall out.

If you are not proned to male patern balding, or are bald already...or don't give a rats ass about the hair...the hell with it.....but you may want to consider it....it you live anywhere near Mexico, hit up the farmacia there, it is cheap as shit -

T-Rex

 

[Patuba]

Patuba, got some good advice up there...the only thing I would add, and it depends on your genetic pre-disposition, is Proscar (finasteride). This is basically Propecia X4. Proscar is typically 5 mg of finasteride (propecia is 1) and willhelp block the DHT levels that will spike to 4 times their normal level......translation....your hair will fall out.

If you are not proned to male patern balding, or are bald already...or don't give a rats ass about the hair...the hell with it.....but you may want to consider it....it you live anywhere near Mexico, hit up the farmacia there, it is cheap as shit -

T-Rex

Thanks for the heads up on the Finastride. I'm not familar with taking it. I'll probably buy some from LR. What is the doseage on it and do you run it throughout the cycle?

 

[T-Rex]

Thanks for the heads up on the Finastride. I'm not familar with taking it. I'll probably buy some from LR. What is the doseage on it and do you run it throughout the cycle?

I would say since you are taking a relatively moderate does of test, you can get away with getting a pill splitter and doing 2.5mg of proscar a day.....however, it is not dngerous at all, it is just stronger proppecia...the only down side to taking the full 5mg tab a day is that it may supress your bodys natural test a bit....but since you are going to supress that anyway and be supplementing with supraphysiological levels.....that side effect is mute. Therefore, if you are at all concerned about hair loss, take the 5mg/day while stickin and scale it down to 2.5mg for a few weeks after and probably keep taking it at the normal does for a while afterwards (1mg) - which is exactly propecia.

PS - never buy real propecia if proscar is ready available...its too damn expensive.

 

[Chip Bronson]

patuba, i'd keep the dbol at 20mg. hell, my first cycle was only 20mg dbol ed for 6 weeks and i made great gains off of that for sure. what i kept post cycle is a different story. but that my fuck-up as i did not take appropriate measures for recovery. as another bro mentioned, if you you want, you can add in the deca at say 250-300mg/week but i would stop the deca 2 weeks before the test as it has a longer half-life. this way the two compounds should be clearing out of your system at approximately the same time.

for recovery you may want to throw in 50mg clomid ed (you don't have to but i would) along with the nolva. and i would definitely add phosphatidylserine at a gram ed for the duration of your recovery.

all in all this looks like a solid cycle. with proper diet, good workouts and rest, you should see some great gains. and with the recovery, as outlined, you should keep most of it. good luck.

 

[Haggard]

Patuba you will see more gains the longer you run the test. I say do this:

Dbol 1-5 30-35mg/day
Test Enan 500mg/wk: Wks 1-12
Deca 300mg/wk: Wks 1-11

You can get away with stopping the deca onen week before you stop the enanthate...But take Chips advice and get proper rest and diet....Youll be happy.. Good luck bro

 

[Tomahawk]

Bro i would give you my 2; but seems all the guys above covered it damn good. Good Luck

 

[Patuba]

Thanks for the suggestions all. I think I'm going to do the following:

500mg Test en. 1 shot a week 10-12 weeks
25mg dbol weeks 1-4
2.5mg Finastride a day

maybe .5 mg Arimidex EOD to keep bloating down.

I'm going to skip on the deca this time. I don't think I need that many androgrens plus I want to keep the cost down.

Post cycle Nolvadex 40mg a day for 2 weeks then 20mg a day for 2 weeks.

Is their any reasons why people are recommending both Clomid and Nolvadex? From what I understand they are close to being the same. With Clomid supposedly restoring Test levels quick, but not by much, and Nolva being better for gyno.


Also, how long before the Test en. kicks in? I know it would be a couple of weeks since it's a longer ester, that's why I chose it. Does 2-3 weeks sound right?