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BobbleSchiztel

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Hey friends, wanted to come on here and chat about this topic of my first cycle.

I’m 18, Have been lifting very consistently for two years, 175lbs around 11-14% bf, my diet consists of 93/7 beef and white rice and potatoes and vegtables and fruits. No bullshit cheat meals or anything of that sort.

Have an optimized training regime and can hoist some heavy weights.

I’ve been researching roiding and health complications that may come with it for nearly a year now, Almost hopped on this winter but i decided i needed to research some more.

I have a fairly good understanding about what to expect and how to fix it,

i’ve dabbled with mk2886 mk677 Enclomiphine Melanotan Ghkcu Retatrutide and so on. (not a flex just explaining my previous experience and or lack of.)

i plan to take 500-600 test for 12-14 weeks
accompanied with:
2.5mg dutasteride daily (nuke dht and any hormonal hair loss and acne or skin aging)
5mg oral minoxidil daily (hair gains, kinda unrelated lol)
Propanolol
Telmisartan
Slidenafil when needed
p5p
biotin
fish oil
Tudca if needed
b5 megadose
retatrutide
MOTS-C

will have exemastane on hand for if needed.

i honestly plan to take this more for quality of life, improvements, and recovery, confidence, and looking sharp on the job to make great tips I’ve said it 1 million times myself that I’m not gonna become one of these gearhead gym dudes that look 50 at 30 have terrible skin quality and fucked up lipids. I’m just doing a enhanced TRT.

Please debate me in the comments and give me feedback.
 
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Spaceman Spiff said:
You are 18. Enhanced TRT? Why now? Any bloods?


You are throwing some serious drugs. 175 lbs? How tall? Any pics?
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around 195 lbs sorry for the typo im using voice to text. I am around 6ft on the dot maybe a little shorter. I plan to get my blood work done in a few weeks before I consider this. I’m choosing now because I’m at the point in my life where I wanna make the absolute most of these years while I’m still young when I’m in my mid 20s I’ll be even more tied up with working, and I won’t really care as much but as of right now I feel like I could greatly benefit from the mental boost and recovery boost because I usually work 14 hour days and balance that with classes and gym and family and golf.. so my sleep isn’t perfect on days that I’m jammed up with work. and I’m just calling it enhanced TRT because I’m using it for the TRT benefits. I’m not going into this with a bodybuilding cycle standpoint. I’m not adding any other crazy compounds. I’m not trying to be the next IFBB pro I just wanna dabble with 500 for a portion of the cycle and if it’s too much, I’ll be right back down to 200. I just wanna optimize my testosterone and operate at a higher level than my peers and outwork them and have a mental advantage. I’ve heard a lot that testosterone amplifies your current personality. and I’m very close to being the coolest guy around. I’m very kind, outgoing good kid. I’m not a jerk. I’m not egotistical so I think it would just greatly help me. I would really be the fucking man if I could operate on a higher level and on the side of that, look a little bit cooler
 

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Let me speak clearly like I would to my own...this is insane. Log out and enjoy your life. No blood work, no idea what you are doing. Respectfully.

Read and see you in 10 to 15 years at the least once you have some money and have done something. Opportunity cost. Look it up.

Great job on the lifting and progress!

R

Thread 'Considering a first cycle....all your confusion cleared up here.'

:)


So you want to dabble with AAS for body dysmorphia or cosmetic reasons?

Step 1. Understand the basic workings of hpt(g)a - hypothalamic pituitary testicular (aka gonadal) axis. Control theory. Where does testosterone exhibit negative feedback? H or P? How about estradiol?

Step 2. Understand PCT. What is it? Is it necessary? When is it necessary?

Step 3. Understand basics of pharmacokinetics/pharmacodynamics for the drugs you are considering

Step 4. What's your plan? Inject some stuff and come back to the forums in 10 to 12 weeks and ask what to do next? Short, medium...
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readalot said:
Let me speak clearly like I would to my own...this is insane. Log out and enjoy your life. No blood work, no idea what you are doing. Respectfully.

Read and see you in 10 to 15 years at the least once you have some money and have done something. Opportunity cost. Look it up.

R

Thread 'Considering a first cycle....all your confusion cleared up here.'

:)


So you want to dabble with AAS for body dysmorphia or cosmetic reasons?

Step 1. Understand the basic workings of hpt(g)a - hypothalamic pituitary testicular (aka gonadal) axis. Control theory. Where does testosterone exhibit negative feedback? H or P? How about estradiol?

Step 2. Understand PCT. What is it? Is it necessary? When is it necessary?

Step 3. Understand basics of pharmacokinetics/pharmacodynamics for the drugs you are considering

Step 4. What's your plan? Inject some stuff and come back to the forums in 10 to 12 weeks and ask what to do next? Short, medium...
  • readalot
  • harm reduction pct help testosterone cypionate testosterone enanthate
  • Replies: 10
  • Forum: Steroid Forum
  • Like
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read every bit of it. you seem knowledgeable and probably correct. Can you tell me why it’s insane? is it purely because i have not gotten bloods before ? thanks for the input though.
 
BobbleSchiztel said:
read every bit of it. you seem knowledgeable and probably correct. Can you tell me why it’s insane? is it purely because i have not gotten bloods before ? thanks for the input though.
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Post your blood work when you get it. Then let's talk. Good job thinking about and then actually pulling baseline blood work.

No one (no one who gives a F) in good conscience could ever condone what you describe above for someone your age. Why break what ain't broken (clearly from your pics)?
 
readalot said:
Post your blood work when you get it. Then let's talk. Good job thinking about and then actually pulling baseline blood work.

No one (no one who gives a F) in good conscience could ever condone what you describe above for someone your age. Why break what ain't broken (clearly from your pics)?
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honestly, we may not even get to the point where I get bloodwork anymore. I think you guys are right and I need to give it some time probably not the smartest thing to do. especially at this age
 
BobbleSchiztel said:
honestly, we may not even get to the point where I get bloodwork anymore. I think you guys are right and I need to give it some time probably not the smartest thing to do. especially at this age
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readalot said:
Step 9. Bloodwork? What is it? What should you pull before you ever take anything? What are the standard markers? How do you measure TT and FT? What is TT and FT? CMP/CBC/lipids/E2....what are those? Fasting insulin? What else?
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I appreciate your diligence and critical thinking.
 
BobbleSchiztel said:
how does this look? my buddy who competes said this is everything i should get
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First line is trash. Get LCMS Total T along with Free T by equilibrium dialysis. Could also add SHBG for your records.

Example with Quest...

Quest Diagnostics: Test Directory

testdirectory.questdiagnostics.com testdirectory.questdiagnostics.com


The LCMS TT plus FT by ED shouldn't be much more expensive. 49 bucks on ultalabs.

The std E2 is fine unless you are on low side. E2 "sensitive" (LCMS) will pick up lower range.

Good luck.
 
Why are you taking Propanolol and Telmisartan? Do you have high bp? If not there no reason to take them. You're listed a lot of pharmaceuticals for a 18 yo.
 
null88 said:
Why are you taking Propanolol and Telmisartan? Do you have high bp? If not there no reason to take them. You're listed a lot of pharmaceuticals for a 18 yo.
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to mitigate potential heart rate or blood pressure issues associated with testosterone. I don’t currently take them that was my plan for ancillaries while on test.
 
BobbleSchiztel said:
how does this look? my buddy who competes said this is everything i should get
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Go to privatemdlabs and get the bodybuilder panel. Has all of the proper tests and better versions of them. And you can still go get it done at quest. Might need to add an individual test or two but still better and cheaper than picking individual tests from quest.

(if this is against the rules then please remove it mods. dont think it is but willing to take the L if we cant drop privatemd)

EDIT - also chiming in to wait a few years. You're doing great in general, not just for your age. Please listen to all the old dudes telling you to wait. We aren't just doing it to be annoying. It's genuine advice
 
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