First cycle pre and post blood test timing

[ANTHONYxSOPRANO]

38
5'4 170 lbs
20% bf all in my lower mid section and lower pecs.
Lifting on and off for 22 years. 5 year break but the last 2 years have been continues.

Thanks to meso I realized how stupid my plan of running a 6 week anavar only cycle with out a pct was... Thanks haha. I've decided to put off my cycle till next January to clean up my diet and actually do cardio for the first time in my life to try and get my body fat from 20% to 10-15%.

I live in Canada so I'm at the mercy of our socialist health care system when it comes to blood tests. Generally how long does it take to get everything settled after a 10 week 250mg/wk test e cycle with the last 6 weeks using anvar at 60mg PD. I plan on running the standard 4 week nolvadex pct.

I know this is a hard question to answer so I'm just looking for help when I should book my first blood test this year so I can time my second blood test a year later. I won't be telling my Dr about my AAS use because I have been paying into my work life insurance for 15 years and I don't want to screw my kids out of that money. Thanks

 

[Just Fish]

38
5'4 170 lbs
20% bf all in my lower mid section and lower pecs.
Lifting on and off for 22 years. 5 year break but the last 2 years have been continues.

Thanks to meso I realized how stupid my plan of running a 6 week anavar only cycle with out a pct was... Thanks haha. I've decided to put off my cycle till next January to clean up my diet and actually do cardio for the first time in my life to try and get my body fat from 20% to 10-15%.

I live in Canada so I'm at the mercy of our socialist health care system when it comes to blood tests. Generally how long does it take to get everything settled after a 10 week 250mg/wk test e cycle with the last 6 weeks using anvar at 60mg PD. I plan on running the standard 4 week nolvadex pct.

I know this is a hard question to answer so I'm just looking for help when I should book my first blood test this year so I can time my second blood test a year later. I won't be telling my Dr about my AAS use because I have been paying into my work life insurance for 15 years and I don't want to screw my kids out of that money. Thanks

If your natty you can do pre-cycle bloods whenever. Try to get your body fat down to 15% or less before you cycle. 250mg/wk is a very low dose which won't produce much for results. Might as well do 500mg/wk or at least 375mg/wk.

 

[ANTHONYxSOPRANO]

If your natty you can do pre-cycle bloods whenever. Try to get your body fat down to 15% or less before you cycle. 250mg/wk is a very low dose which won't produce much for results. Might as well do 500mg/wk or at least 375mg/wk.

I see 500mg being recommend alot but for my goals and plus I have no idea how my body will react to it I'm going to stick with 250mg. Since I'm short I'd like to avoid getting much bigger. I'm trying to get the hard, cut up, lean look with some strength gains. My chest is already 40" and my arms 16.5" any bigger will look silly being only 5'4 haha. The only reason I'm doing test is for the anavar because from what I've read the results with anavar are excatly what I'm looking for. I'm pretty sure I can only ask for bloods once a year during an annual physical so that's why I'm trying to figure out how long it will take for my body to get back to normal after pct.

 

[Just Fish]

I see 500mg being recommend alot but for my goals and plus I have no idea how my body will react to it I'm going to stick with 250mg. Since I'm short I'd like to avoid getting much bigger. I'm trying to get the hard, cut up, lean look with some strength gains. My chest is already 40" and my arms 16.5" any bigger will look silly being only 5'4 haha. The only reason I'm doing test is for the anavar because from what I've read the results with anavar are excatly what I'm looking for. I'm pretty sure I can only ask for bloods once a year during an annual physical so that's why I'm trying to figure out how long it will take for my body to get back to normal after pct.

Mid cycle bloods are more important than post cycle bloods.

 

[Oldschool]

At that dose you probably won't need an ai but I'd have it just in case. Everything else sounds good. I would run 500 but hey its you so do you. Good luck on your cycle.

 

[Oldschool]

Mid cycle bloods are more important than post cycle bloods.

Not picking a fight with you fish. I'm done with the childish shit. But I think in his case since he's using such low doses I would think post pct bloods would be his best bet since he's limited to one test a year?

 

[Just Fish]

Not picking a fight with you fish. I'm done with the childish shit. But I think in his case since he's using such low doses I would think post pct bloods would be his best bet since he's limited to one test a year?

I was thinking the same thing after I wrote it but was to lazy to come back and delete it.

 

[Just Fish]

Not picking a fight with you fish. I'm done with the childish shit. But I think in his case since he's using such low doses I would think post pct bloods would be his best bet since he's limited to one test a year?

I always see post cycle bloods as pointless if you feel fine after pct. Pre cycle bloods are the most important because they will tell you if you've recovered from last cycle and give you a baseline.

 

[Oldschool]

Yea I hear you. The one test thing kinda sucks for op in my opinion. It's a toss up.

 

[ANTHONYxSOPRANO]

Not picking a fight with you fish. I'm done with the childish shit. But I think in his case since he's using such low doses I would think post pct bloods would be his best bet since he's limited to one test a year?

That's my whole issue. I'm trying not to raise any flags and since all our health records are all electronic now even if I go to a walk in clinic it's all on the same database in Ontario. Lol I really just need a ball park estimate from peoples experience how long it takes to start producing test again. I just want to check once a year to make sure that everything gets back to normal and that my other vitals are in range since I plan on only doing a once a year cycle.

I might have included too much info but the tldr version is if I plan on January 10 week cycle plus four week pct is four or five moths enough time to be sure everything is back to normal for blood work.

 

[Oldschool]

You would think that would be enough time but then again you are wanting to do a very low dose for your first cycle to see how you react so keeping in that same thinking what if it isn't enough time? Hell if you can only do bloodwork once a year what good does it do you? You have nothing to compare it to? Not trying to be a dick. Trying to help. Maybe you could hunt down some fellow Canadians on here and they can help out with tricks to getting more than one blood work?Maybe run some hcg during you cycle to try and make sure you recover? ( I say try and make sure cause there isn't anything for sure in this game).

 

[ANTHONYxSOPRANO]

You would think that would be enough time but then again you are wanting to do a very low dose for your first cycle to see how you react so keeping in that same thinking what if it isn't enough time? Hell if you can only do bloodwork once a year what good does it do you? You have nothing to compare it to? Not trying to be a dick. Trying to help. Maybe you could hunt down some fellow Canadians on here and they can help out with tricks to getting more than one blood work?Maybe run some hcg during you cycle to try and make sure you recover? ( I say try and make sure cause there isn't anything for sure in this game).

No I appreciate any help or suggestions I get. Ya I know its a hard thing to determine. It could also be the fact that I'm a noob at all this too lol.

 

[Oldschool]

No I appreciate any help or suggestions I get. Ya I know its a hard thing to determine. It could also be the fact that I'm a noob at all this too lol.

Gotta start somewhere brother. Hit up some guys in the thread "Canadians talk domestic" located in the underground section. I would venture to say you'd be fine even running 500 a week but you never know. Best of luck to you.

 

[ANTHONYxSOPRANO]

Thanks man, I posted a link there.

 

[Fitwelder]

Thanks man, I posted a link there.

I'm in BC. I can go into any walk in clinic and say I'm not feeling well I'd like to have my blood checked. Boom done

 

[ANTHONYxSOPRANO]

I'm in BC. I can go into any walk in clinic and say I'm not feeling well I'd like to have my blood checked. Boom done

I don't know maybe I'm thinking about this all wrong, it's mostly for life insurance purposes and not giving them a reason to deny my family when the time comes. I always assumed at least in Ontario because we have eHealth all our doctor visits and results show up when when a doctor checks your file. I'll go once a year and I'll time it 5 months after my pct to see where I'm at. So that means September and I'll start my cycle January.... I know all this sounds dumb to some lol

 

[Apexvallen]

Don't risk losing your life insurance. I would say do mild cycles, give lots of time for PCT and between cycles. Getting bloods on cycle will be very obvious to any doctor looking at them that you are taking hormones.

If you want a baseline for when you are probably ready to cycle again, it would be time off = time on cycle + pct. So an 8 week cycle, 6 week PCT, and then you take 14 weeks off before you think about cycling again. If you can't get bloods, you're going to have to listen to your body closely and decide for yourself if you're ready to go again. If your sex drive is back to normal, is your energy back to normal, your mood, things like that. Its incredibly hard to judge without bloods tbh. I would agree that if you can only choose one, than pre cycle bloods is the way to go. That way nothing will look weird to the doctor and you will ensure you are ready to go again.

 

[ANTHONYxSOPRANO]

Don't risk losing your life insurance. I would say do mild cycles, give lots of time for PCT and between cycles. Getting bloods on cycle will be very obvious to any doctor looking at them that you are taking hormones.

If you want a baseline for when you are probably ready to cycle again, it would be time off = time on cycle + pct. So an 8 week cycle, 6 week PCT, and then you take 14 weeks off before you think about cycling again. If you can't get bloods, you're going to have to listen to your body closely and decide for yourself if you're ready to go again. If your sex drive is back to normal, is your energy back to normal, your mood, things like that. Its incredibly hard to judge without bloods tbh. I would agree that if you can only choose one, than pre cycle bloods is the way to go. That way nothing will look weird to the doctor and you will ensure you are ready to go again.

Thanks man, I think this what I'll do. I only plan on one cycle a year so this should be enough for the gains I want and save me the stress of it all.

 

[Dr JIM]

38
5'4 170 lbs
20% bf all in my lower mid section and lower pecs.
Lifting on and off for 22 years. 5 year break but the last 2 years have been continues.

Thanks to meso I realized how stupid my plan of running a 6 week anavar only cycle with out a pct was... Thanks haha. I've decided to put off my cycle till next January to clean up my diet and actually do cardio for the first time in my life to try and get my body fat from 20% to 10-15%.

I live in Canada so I'm at the mercy of our socialist health care system when it comes to blood tests. Generally how long does it take to get everything settled after a 10 week 250mg/wk test e cycle with the last 6 weeks using anvar at 60mg PD. I plan on running the standard 4 week nolvadex pct.

I know this is a hard question to answer so I'm just looking for help when I should book my first blood test this year so I can time my second blood test a year later. I won't be telling my Dr about my AAS use because I have been paying into my work life insurance for 15 years and I don't want to screw my kids out of that money. Thanks

What do pre-AAS blood testing have to do with LIFE INSURANCE, nothing especially when compared to smoking, drinking, HTN, or eating a high fat diet.

And your "38" really !

I'm unaware of ANY life insurance company that even considers AAS as
drugs of abuse (AKA "recreational drugs") or they would test for them.

But many DO conduct screening assays
for a number of ANTI-HTN meds and other recreational drugs and will use a positive test AGAINST YOU, or deny coverage if you LIE!

It's the LIE that gets you fella not the truth and this fact has been misrepresented by soooo many PED forum members!

How do I KNOW? I've conducted well over 500 exams and ordered the tests
required by MANY health and life insurance companies.

Don't lie!

 

[Just Fish]

Thanks man, I think this what I'll do. I only plan on one cycle a year so this should be enough for the gains I want and save me the stress of it all.

If your only doing 8 weeks of test you should really use test prop. Test e or c don't really kick in until like week four. Plus with test p you can shorten up your whole cycle because you can start pct sooner. Test p also kicks in within the first week or two. Just use 25g needle for less pip.