First cycle. Starting 250 Test C a week and at week 4 including 50 MG Var. Is it enough to see changes or should I up the Test?

[patriotmuscle1]

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Really?

My first cycle, I went from 186 (after many years of lifting naturally), smooth, to 206, in a shape that non-bodybuilding folks called "ripped" and looked like one of those Greek God statues. True story here - a woman audibly moaned when I walked by on the beach. Her friends giggled, and she said, "Did I do that out loud?" I had no illusions about how different I looked from three months prior. I actually met my wife during this time (not her, lol), who was too young for me and out of my league, but she actively pursued me - I am sure my physical appearance after my first cycle had something to do with that.

That one cycle was life changing.

Of course, then I knew I would do it again, lol. That lead to more and more use and abuse and finally competing in bodybuilding and an eventual off season weight of 251 before I stopped the insanity and focused more on health.

But I think if folks are not saying "Wow, you look muscly" after one cycle, then you probably did something drastically wrong, or you did not do everything rightly. Three months of 500mg weekly of testosterone and dedicated no excuses training and a specific, planned diet with no cheating should result in a very drastic difference in physical appearance.

Same here.. my wife and friends couldn't believe how much I'd grown in 16-20 wks.. and I made alot of errors with diet and training. I trained way to much and my diet was a little dirty..
I also wasn't as lean as recommended.. but I wasn't fat either..
My wife's the time would ask for front doubles and lat spreads daily.. she absolutely loved it..

 

[jsdaking]

man, people should really start working out before taking PEDs

 

[Pelletkachel]

I’d advise when starting out to begin with a leaner physique. The higher your bodyfat is the faster you’re going to aromatize and get unwanted sides.. don’t want to need to hop on an AI pretty quick

 

[anabolicperro]

as you started already. focus on your training and diet. and you will see improvements. if you decide to add more test which is pointless if the diet not on point. do it gradually and slowly

 

[JC Grifter]

Honestly, stop using mg's and start using ng/dl. For somebody 250 mg's is 2500 ng/dl, for somebody else it's 1250 ng/dl.

I’ve been thinking about this exact concept for sometime now since we all metabolize testosterone differently. A low dose for one individual may be a moderate or high-dose for another.

To use myself as an example, my TRT dose is 80 mg a week. I don’t do bloodwork 48 hours after my dose because I’m curious to see how I shake out by the end of the week. So I do my injection of 80 mg on a Sunday and blood work on a Friday shows me in the mid 800s every time.

So for me, 250 to 300 mg is a much higher dose compared to someone else.