First cycle- test only

[Jron]

Hello all,

I’m new here and my order finally came in from N a p s g e a r which I realize is not popular on this forum.

My question would be is this test cyp 250 legit from naps or would you avoid it? It says their website on bottle dragon-pharma.com.


My first cycle would be 400mg test cyp split in twice a week injection for 8-10 weeks and let’s say I wanna do proper pct after for 8 weeks would you recommend clomid and tamoxifen as proper pct for test only cycle?

 

[Fattyone]

I’d do it for 12 weeks if it were me. Wouldn’t want to shut myself down and deal with a PCT for a short cycle.

Nobody can tell you if the test is real besides @janoshik he can test it and tell you exactly what it is.

Don’t start your cycle till you have your pct planned and in hand.

 

[Jron]

Alright 12 week cycle and make sure to have PCT on hand. I heard for test only cycle you really don’t need to worry about HCG if you’re only doing 1 cycle.

Say I get some clomid and tamoxifen. How long should I use them for to properly restart natural production of T? 8 weeks? What dose should I take and should I take same dose for 8 weeks? I’m planning on get PCT from DuesChem.

 

[Fattyone]

I don’t PCT so I can’t answer your questions but this forum has already answered it 249,083 times. Just search and read and soak it all in.

You’re about to inject illegal drugs made in a bathtub and shut down a natural bodily function. Give it the respect it deserves and get well versed in all things drugs.

 

[Jron]

I don’t PCT so I can’t answer your questions but this forum has already answered it 249,083 times. Just search and read and soak it all in.

You’re about to inject illegal drugs made in a bathtub and shut down a natural bodily function. Give it the respect it deserves and get well versed in all things drugs.

Dear lord. Haha don’t tell me it’s made in a bathtub bro. I’m hoping someone has seen this brand and would say it’s legit. I’d be willing to submit it for testing.

 

[phenominal34]

I don’t PCT so I can’t answer your questions but this forum has already answered it 249,083 times. Just search and read and soak it all in.

You’re about to inject illegal drugs made in a bathtub and shut down a natural bodily function. Give it the respect it deserves and get well versed in all things drugs.

Great answer sir !!!

 

[RedXXSouth]

When people say go big or go home it really applies to this. If you are going to take the dive you might as well do at least 12 weeks. If you only do 400 a week and stop in 8 weeks unless you are really sensitive you barely have to pct if at all. I said to myself 10-12 weeks 500week on first cycle. Just started getting the most benefits by 8 weeks. Ran it 16 weeks with no problem. Dropped down to 250 cruise and hit it every 12 weeks or so.
Your questions have been answered in the search bar. I got everything just in case I have bad sides or ever want to come off.

 

[RedXXSouth]

Dear lord. Haha don’t tell me it’s made in a bathtub bro. I’m hoping someone has seen this brand and would say it’s legit. I’d be willing to submit it for testing.

Oh and napsgear is more consistent than not but have ripped off many people in the past. It's the nature of this thing. Nothing can stay tight forever. Just gotta watch when the ship starts going down.

 

[bigboy420]

Alright 12 week cycle and make sure to have PCT on hand. I heard for test only cycle you really don’t need to worry about HCG if you’re only doing 1 cycle.

Say I get some clomid and tamoxifen. How long should I use them for to properly restart natural production of T? 8 weeks? What dose should I take and should I take same dose for 8 weeks? I’m planning on get PCT from DuesChem.

Meeeh, I think its not worth it in such short durations. You will get 0 muscle. Have steroids in plan for atleast a year or but better forever. The longer you are on, the more its worth. 12 weeks will do nothing.

Blast, pct, blast, pct sucks and its not even healthy for the body
Blast, cruise, blast, cruise is the way.

PCT should be used for fertility or to end steroids for good.

 

[Fattyone]

Meeeh, I think its not worth it in such short durations. You will get 0 muscle. Have steroids in plan for atleast a year or but better forever. The longer you are on, the more its worth. 12 weeks will do nothing.

Blast, pct, blast, pct sucks and its not even healthy for the body
Blast, cruise, blast, cruise is the way.

PCT should be used for fertility or to end steroids for good.

I’d rather see someone get there feet wet and maybe realize it’s not for them and be able to recover reasonably well after 12 weeks then spend a year shut down only to try and get back from that.

Unless, OP has been hardcore living this life and knows it’s a forever thing. The gym will always be in my life as long as I’m alive. It won’t always be chasing size, but I’ll always be there (plus I legitimately needed TRT lol)

 

[Jron]

Waiting on trt thru TRT nation and they are putting me on 200mg a week starting. So yes, I can blast and cruise for sure. The only reason I’m looking into PCT is because what if I decide after a cycle I don’t wanna be on T forever and wanna try to kick start natural production again? Basically, I’m just nervous to be on forever but also wanna blast.

 

[Jron]

Trt nation uses a compounding pharmacy outta Texas and I’m waiting for their kit to arrive. I’m a mid 30’s veteran and honestly my t probably isn’t worth saving with PCT. I dunno. It’s my first time becoming natty to non natty. Kinda weighing heavy on me.

 

[Fattyone]

Waiting on trt thru TRT nation and they are putting me on 200mg a week starting. So yes, I can blast and cruise for sure. The only reason I’m looking into PCT is because what if I decide after a cycle I don’t wanna be on T forever and wanna try to kick start natural production again? Basically, I’m just nervous to be on forever but also wanna blast.

You either need TRT or you don’t.

You’ve chosen a TRT mill aka they’ll put anyone on. If you truly need TRT then that’s all there is to it. If you’re looking to run test for a bit then pct.. that’s a cycle.

200mg/wk is also a pretty stout starting point.

 

[borkies]

200mg/wk is also a pretty stout starting point.

You mentioned TRT mills and this seems to be the case with a few I've spoken with. A few years ago I was wanting a legit script for test so I could have it handy while traveling. All three of the popular ones were willing to start me at 200/week and offered me both anavar and nandrolone. They would have had me at 200 test and 100 deca weekly with 30mg anavar daily. That's more shit than I cruise on (well, most times).

No wonder they're looking to crack down on these types of places. I can only imagine the problems prescribing this to some middle aged fatass with a beer/cigar habit and a penchant for sitting around either at the office or on the couch.

edit: oh - the prices were insane. For all of that plus arimidex total was averaged about $300-$350 every 10 weeks.

 

[Jron]

You either need TRT or you don’t.

You’ve chosen a TRT mill aka they’ll put anyone on. If you truly need TRT then that’s all there is to it. If you’re looking to run test for a bit then pct.. that’s a cycle.

200mg/wk is also a pretty stout starting point.

I’m disabled military vet and it’s difficult to get prescribed T from VA. But if you wanna transition into a women, oh you bet your ass they’ll be quick to throw estrogen, and a wig at you. I was told by my primary care doctor they “don’t do testosterone” regardless of your levels and I need to go to a “men’s clinic” for that.

So that’s what I did. I found a men’s clinic who isn’t going to make me go broke paying cash. I don’t have morning erections. Low energy and feel sleepy in early afternoon. Depression. Only once every 3 or 4 months will I get an erection and it’s not even hard enough to do anything with. So yeah, I think I need some T to avoid this garbage quality of life from progressing any worse. If that bought me to the point of having to use a trt mill, then so be it. Ya know?

 

[Jron]

i think the other ones like PeterMd Viking etc will all start you at 200mg. The thing is what stops anyone from taking less and cruising at say 140mg a week? That would be the intelligent thing to do.

If they crack down, alls that does is make underground labs gain more business. It’s actually way cheaper getting T from UGL than it is using Viking, Peter MD, or any other telemedicine clinic.

 

[borkies]

i think the other ones like PeterMd Viking etc will all start you at 200mg. The thing is what stops anyone from taking less and cruising at say 140mg a week? That would be the intelligent thing to do.

It would be the intelligent thing to do. But, there is ignorance and stupidity. Ignorant people who DON'T know any better and just take the 200mg, and stupid people like me who DO know better but still say "ehhhh I'm gonna bump it up for a couple months".

 

[bigboy420]

What? You are low T? Then you already belong on the boat of forever.... whats gonna pct do?

Im really confused on this post. Who gives 200mg trt?

 

[Jron]

Yeah the being on forever is the thing that is kinda depressing. Of course I’m low T and that’s what gave me the idea to even blast in the first place. Surprised that comes off as so out of the ordinary.

But at my age, it only gets tougher from here so I’ll swallow my pride and accept I’ll be on it. Tried tongkat ali, ashwagandha, and all the other supplements/vitamins. The money wasted on that stuff should’ve went towards treatment a long time ago.

200mg is where they’ll start you and dial you in with follow up lab results to assess whether your dose needs to be raised or lowered. I’m sure once dialed in, they’ll lower it abit from 200mg to 140/150mg/week. Greg Doucette I believe is cruising at 140mg week.

What do you all think is a good test dose to cruise at per week?

 

[bigboy420]

What do you all think is a good test dose to cruise at per week?

Depends who you ask. I cruise on 150mg. 100mg was too meh. Some cruise on 300mg.

But the part "pinning forever" basicly translates to "being low test" or not rebounding your testosterone.

PCT will do nothing if you got hypothyroidism already

So far I understand you need this medicine but if you stop you will still need it.