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First cycle- test only

bigboy420 said:
Depends who you ask. I cruise on 150mg. 100mg was too meh. Some cruise on 300mg.

But the part "pinning forever" basicly translates to "being low test" or not rebounding your testosterone.

PCT will do nothing if you got hypothyroidism already

So far I understand you need this medicine but if you stop you will still need it.
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Yeah bro the way you put it is just something I gotta accept. If I cycle and pct then it’s just gonna restart natural production which isn’t exactly high enough to be worth saving anyways. It’s like a mix of the cost and life long commitment that weirds me out. Sure I can afford it for the next couple years but who knows what the future brings.

What if supply chain issues happen? What if shortages and further hyperinflation occurs? There’s just a million things weighing on my mind when it comes to an extended commitment. I can’t even commit to one women for life and you expect me to commit so willingly to life long treatment?

There’s just some resistance because being stuck on big pharma scares me. But leading a mediocre life and aging horribly HAS to be worse.

Greg Doucette claims he’s at 140mg a week and you’re on 150mg. These ranges are helpful for me to dial it back into after a blast.
 
Jron said:
Hello all,

I’m new here and my order finally came in from N a p s g e a r which I realize is not popular on this forum.

My question would be is this test cyp 250 legit from naps or would you avoid it? It says their website on bottle dragon-pharma.com.


My first cycle would be 400mg test cyp split in twice a week injection for 8-10 weeks and let’s say I wanna do proper pct after for 8 weeks would you recommend clomid and tamoxifen as proper pct for test only cycle?
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The N a p s haters here are completely irrational and blinded by emotion. The idea that Dragon Test from them is bunk is utterly absurd, and particularly laughable considering these are the folks who'd direct you to some bathtub lab no one's ever heard of. I've been using Dragon products from them for a decade, and the only "deception" is that everything's been slightly overdosed.
 
Ghoul said:
The N a p s haters here are completely irrational and blinded by emotion. The idea that Dragon Test from them is bunk is utterly absurd, and particularly laughable considering these are the folks who'd direct you to some bathtub lab no one's ever heard of. I've been using Dragon products from them for a decade, and the only "deception" is that everything's been slightly overdosed.
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Imagine admitting you've been a Naps shill for a decade. Embarrassing shit.
 
Ghoul said:
The N a p s haters here are completely irrational and blinded by emotion. The idea that Dragon Test from them is bunk is utterly absurd, and particularly laughable considering these are the folks who'd direct you to some bathtub lab no one's ever heard of. I've been using Dragon products from them for a decade, and the only "deception" is that everything's been slightly overdosed.
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Thanks for the response ghoul. Planning on doing my first injection of 0.5 ml of dragon pharma test 250. I’ve seen people on Reddit claim naps is legit and dragon products are as well.

I was really worried that my order with NG was going to be bad because so many here are against them. But they did pull thru and sent me everything I ordered plus threw in 4 cialis tabs. I’m very much interested in what others here think of dragon pharma products.
 
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Jron said:
Thanks for the response ghoul. Planning on doing my first injection of 0.5 ml of dragon pharma test 250. I’ve seen people on Reddit claim naps is legit and dragon products are as well.

I was really worried that my order with NG was going to be bad because so many here are against them. But they did pull thru and sent me everything I ordered plus threw in 4 cialis tabs. I’m very much interested in what others here think of dragon pharma products.
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Dragon ranks as the most reliable major UGL out there. N a p s is their main distributor. It ships directly from Dragon. Both have been around for over a decade. You can see from the customer pics on N a p s home page they're moving hundreds of Dragon Test vials a week. You don't have custom silkscreened vials made, with logo molded caps, fill them with oil, but skimp on 25¢ worth of Test, risking what is clearly a multi million dollar biz. When it's product of the week, $24/vial for Cyp or Enanthate, with the other discounts it's $12 a vial! With that kind of volume it's no big deal for them to protect their rep by having all ingredients tested.

Meanwhile there are clowns here pushing Leroy's unlabeled backyard shed Test made with raw powder from Alibaba and chainsaw oil for $40.

About once a year there's some issue with international shipments, slowing down the usually quick 2-4 week delivery times. This year it was some Chinese bulk shippers reusing postage labels and the packages getting seized. All the trolls come out saying "I told you so!", then N a p s reships everything no charge and they all go quiet.
 
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Jron said:
What if supply chain issues happen? What if shortages and further hyperinflation occurs? There’s just a million things weighing on my mind when it comes to an extended commitment. I can’t even commit to one women for life and you expect me to commit so willingly to life long treatment?
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Its gonna suck but you already need it. You are saying it like you still have a choice.

Doubt there will be a shortage but who knows if russians press the nuke button.
 
Jron said:
Yeah bro the way you put it is just something I gotta accept. If I cycle and pct then it’s just gonna restart natural production which isn’t exactly high enough to be worth saving anyways. It’s like a mix of the cost and life long commitment that weirds me out. Sure I can afford it for the next couple years but who knows what the future brings.

What if supply chain issues happen? What if shortages and further hyperinflation occurs? There’s just a million things weighing on my mind when it comes to an extended commitment. I can’t even commit to one women for life and you expect me to commit so willingly to life long treatment?

There’s just some resistance because being stuck on big pharma scares me. But leading a mediocre life and aging horribly HAS to be worse.

Greg Doucette claims he’s at 140mg a week and you’re on 150mg. These ranges are helpful for me to dial it back into after a blast.
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Whatever Greg claims is always a half truth. He’s certainly taking more stuff and will merely just claim trt only
 
Ghoul said:
The N a p s haters here are completely irrational and blinded by emotion. The idea that Dragon Test from them is bunk is utterly absurd, and particularly laughable considering these are the folks who'd direct you to some bathtub lab no one's ever heard of. I've been using Dragon products from them for a decade, and the only "deception" is that everything's been slightly overdosed.
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Idk who naps is tbh, because they don't operate in EU anyway, but when it comes to Meso and haters, usually the rule is once you make a mistake (usually intentional) everyone here will remind you of that, no matter who you are and how well established you are, nobody is immune from that. No source is perfect of course. That's why I personally trust this place the most. We help each other by exposing source mistakes. I say we because, even in my time being here (which is not that long), I witnessed few sources exit cuz we ganged up on them exposing the truth. So yeah, all it takes is one mistake and it's very hard to recover from.
 
Vanargandar said:
Think of Napsgear as the Reddit or steroid sources, if that puts it in perspective.
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What they are is the front end of a few dozen UGL's, from the majors like Pharmaqo and Dragon who both advertise here, to some "boutique" domestics (that I'd personally avoid, smaller is definitely not better imo). They don't stock or make anything. Apparently they were represented by some guy that got into a beef here and ever since a few guys, the Billy Jo Bob vials from the trunk in the gym parking lot types, have a hard on for N a p s claiming they sell massive amounts of bunk or just rip off their customers entirely, which is ridiculous.
 
Preparing to begin my first cycle with DP 250. Just curious about the progress thus far. Experiencing any significant PIP or swelling? Any positive effects, such as consistent erections? I recently picked up some ugl from DP because my clinic was just overcharging for gear. Shit was ridiculous but I’m kinda nervous to pin because I’ve never dealt with ugl before. Hoping the experience is good.
 
Jron said:
What if supply chain issues happen? What if shortages and further hyperinflation occurs? There’s just a million things weighing on my mind when it comes to an extended commitment. I can’t even commit to one women for life and you expect me to commit so willingly to life long treatment?

There’s just some resistance because being stuck on big pharma scares me. But leading a mediocre life and aging horribly HAS to be worse.
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1. Learn to homebrew
2. Buy a kilo of test cyp for $340 and have a lifetimes worth
3. Ignore supply chain and big pharma
 
bigboy420 said:
4. Be amputated in gov hospital

where can I brew it? In the tub? :rolleyes:
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You missed step 1. There are plenty of people who have been homebrewing for the past 20 years with no issues with basic knowledge learned from forums, some even from the same singular batch of raws.

What is your thought process of having to have something amputated? What condition or disease are you concerned you will contract from mixing 4 ingredients with heat?

I offered you a simple, common, and widespread solution to your legitimate concerns and you sarcastically ask if you can brew it in the tub? I think you have a lot of reading to do in the homebrew section. Either that or your concerns of infrastructure breakdown are not actually that important to you.
 
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primojuju said:
You missed step 1. There are plenty of people who have been homebrewing for the past 20 years with no issues with basic knowledge learned from forums, some even from the same singular batch of raws.

What is your thought process of having to have something amputated? What condition or disease are you concerned you will contract from mixing 4 ingredients with heat?

I offered you a simple, common, and widespread solution to your legitimate concerns and you sarcastically ask if you can brew it in the tub? I think you have a lot of reading to do in the homebrew section. Either that or your concerns of infrastructure breakdown are not actually that important to you.
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Its interesting for sure, but can really anybody homebrew? Gotta admit I have no clue.
But gear is so cheap. I say that with a minimum wage job.

Gear users are going crazy in 2024. You need to be carefull.
 
bigboy420 said:
You saw what kids are doing hahah, or even the adults choosing to pin rather than to live. Crazy bro. A pandemic for sure. If you dont see the reality of the situation you might be too deep already.
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As far as "kids" are concerned I only see them doing oral only cycles, sarms, and tren. All things I dont use.
You are implying people who homebrew turn into drug addicts? I am asking for specific examples and the things that YOU saw that formed your opinions and are making you reply the way you are. I am strictly talking about having a long term amount of raws on hand to not be beholden to supply chains or trt mills for my treatment.
You still have not answered any of my question from my previous 2 posts. I legitimately want to know the exact stories/studies/posts that you have read to make your opinions what they are.
 
primojuju said:
As far as "kids" are concerned I only see them doing oral only cycles, sarms, and tren. All things I dont use.
You are implying people who homebrew turn into drug addicts? I am asking for specific examples and the things that YOU saw that formed your opinions and are making you reply the way you are. I am strictly talking about having a long term amount of raws on hand to not be beholden to supply chains or trt mills for my treatment.
You still have not answered any of my question from my previous 2 posts. I legitimately want to know the exact stories/studies/posts that you have read to make your opinions what they are.
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Yeye, sorry.
 
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