First Cycle Thoughts

[CHIEF M]

Im 26 210 lbs been training for 3 years, did a few pro hormone cycles oral tren, msten, trest, dmz, and dimethadrol. Ive been doing alot of research the past 4 months or so and im looking to get into my first AAS cycle. I was thinking of running Test E and Tren E with a Tbol kick start possibly
Dosing:
Wks 1-6 Tbol 60mg ed
Wks 1-12 Test E 250mg/Wk 2 shots of 125mg Mon/Thursday
Wks 1-10 Tren Ace 75mg eod maybe up to 100mg if sides aren't too bad 300-400mg wk
Wks 1-12 Aromasin dosed at 6.25 eod and will taper up if needed
Caber will be used at .5mg once a week and will taper up if needed
PCT:
Clomid 100/100/50/25
Nolva 40/40/20/10

any suggestions for cycle is appreciated thanks

 

[HuckingFuge]

looks weak to me.

 

[CHIEF M]

what do you suggest i adjust or change? @HuckingFuge

 

[HuckingFuge]

Test E should be 500mg a week minimum. your Tren A dose is at the minimum you will either hate Tren or love Tren.

 

[CHIEF M]

so you dont think the tren should be higher then the test e thats the only reason why i dosed the test so low so you say test e at 500mg wk and how about the tren should i run that at 125mg or 150mg eod making that 500-60mg week @HuckingFuge

 

[HuckingFuge]

if you want Tren to be higher than Test. you will need to run Tren above 500mg a week. every AAS has a minimum effective dose you need to run them at.

 

[CHIEF M]

so basically for a first cycle tren wouldnt be the way to go should i swap for deca @HuckingFuge

 

[HuckingFuge]

Deca is great muscle build AAS. your first cycle should feel great. running Tren will probably not feel great

 

[CHIEF M]

so Test E 500mg week and how about deca dose and length of cycle? @HuckingFuge

 

[HuckingFuge]

400mg Deca a week minimum for 12 week.

 

[CHIEF M]

so should i extend my test to 14 weeks and cut deca off at 12 so i wont run into "deca dick" @HuckingFuge and should i keep caber in

 

[HuckingFuge]

Deca dick is not a guarantee. I've ran Deca only cycles and never had dick issues. you can run your Test 14 weeks if you want.

 

[CHIEF M]

ok just want to be safe thats all this will be my first cycle dont want to bad of a experience but thanks for all the help and info when i start i will give you a heads up so you can follow along @HuckingFuge

 

[CHIEF M]

New Layout
Wks 1-6 Tbol 60mg ed
Wks 1-12 Test E 500mg/Wk 2 shots of 250mg Mon/Thursday
Wks 1-10 Deca 400mg/Wk 2 Shots Mon/Thurday
Wks 1-12 aromasin dosed at 6.25 eod and will taper up if needed
Caber will be on hand and used at .5mg once a week and will taper up if needed
pct:
clomid 100/100/50/25
nolva 40/40/20/10

Should i put the Test E and Deca in one Syringe or seperate shots @HuckingFuge

 

[Northern Nutrition]

CHIEF, this is your first real AAS cycle correct? If so, dump the Tren idea and the Dbol. Your first cycle should be test ONLY to determine how your body will respond to superaphyisiological amounts of exogenous testosterone. This is important in order for you to gain experience, not only only on your body's reaction but on how you effectively treat any sides that may appear on cycle with testosterone only. This will provide some insight and reflection for your next cycle when you add additional items to your protocol.

Increase testosterone to 500mg/wk like Hucking suggested.
Get rid of the tren and Dbol for this cycle.
Increase your AI to 12.5mg per day.
Reduce your second weeks in PCT to half. No need to front load both 1st and 2nd weeks.
Add hCG on cycle to prevent testicular atrophy.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Welcome Chief - like Northern said , testosterone only cycle first time 400 or 500mg/wk for first cycle , theres plenty of time for compound cycles in the future . ~Ogh

 

[CHIEF M]

cool thats what im seeing all over the forum Tes E for first cycle now i just need to find a legit source lol i think im getting close

 

[Oregongearhead]

cool thats what im seeing all over the forum Tes E for first cycle now i just need to find a legit source lol i think im getting close

I prefer Test-C over Test-E (basically the same) . Only because Im on TRT and that is what I was prescribed , plus its more popular in the USA. Goodluck ~Ogh

 

[mghoward74]

Just throwing it out there.....

1.) Test E or C
2.) Eq
3.) Deca

Are all good choices for 1st cycle (no particular order)

Good luck

 

[HuckingFuge]

Test only first cycle hog wash. your being brain washed