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Clyde1818

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Just wanted input and confirmation on my first cycle, planning on doing 500mg Test 12-16 weeks.I have anavar but still unsure if I will use it or not ; If I use it, it will be used for the last 4-6 week, 25mg.. Aromasin on hand for when estrogen sides show up. I currently have Nolva incase Gyno shows up and for PCT. PCT plan would be 20mg week 1-2, 10mg week 2-6.

Thinking of maybe using enclo during the PCT at 12.5mg daily, would love to have some input on that. I know many people will recommend to just cruise on test instead of a PCT but it isn't what I want to do right now.

Main goal for the cycle is to gain muscle without much fat. Currently 5'10 175 lbs at around 12%.

Thanks for the recommendations and input !
 
I'd say for your current size and amount of lean mass your cycle looks great.. Keep your diet high CLEAN calories and you should be fine on the fat front.. As for the Anavar see how you feel if happy with current look save it for next time, if you want to take the physique abit further throw it in..

I personally don't pct but have great things from Enclomiphene between 12.5 - 25mg... But that's just what I read maybe someone with experience can chime in..

How is your diet and training currently?
 
Trainedbytylerlofthouse19 said:
I'd say for your current size and amount of lean mass your cycle looks great.. Keep your diet high CLEAN calories and you should be fine on the fat front.. As for the Anavar see how you feel if happy with current look save it for next time, if you want to take the physique abit further throw it in..

I personally don't pct but have great things from Enclomiphene between 12.5 - 25mg... But that's just what I read maybe someone with experience can chime in..

How is your diet and training currently?
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Pretty much what I was thinking for the anavar. More of "I'll see when I get there". Also heard very good things about enclo, seems to work very well for bringing test level back up but I'm not sure about the effects once you go off the enclo, like idk if levels will go back to normal or crashed again...

I'd say diet and training is currently very very dialed in, probably close to as optimal as I can reasonably get it.
 
Looks good.

Do 16 wks, as long as you continue to feel ok throughout the end of it.
I would save anavar for your next cycles, dial in how test alone makes you feel.
500mg will give you enough for a first.
 
Clyde1818 said:
Yeah I know blasting and cruising is the meta but Idk I don't want to be pinning for the rest of my life yet lmao. Would like to come off for a decent time after cycle.
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Then just do blast & cruise, and do a PCT once you want to quit, but doing a PCT to shutdown your natural production right after is useless, unhealthy.
 
DugPrime said:
Then just do blast & cruise, and do a PCT once you want to quit, but doing a PCT to shutdown your natural production right after is useless, unhealthy.
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I think I misunderstood your message ? How would a PCT shutdown my natural production, isn't it supposed to make the natural production comeback ? Are you saying it's better to blast 16 weeks, then do TRT doses a while and THEN pct rather than blasting 16 weeks and go directly for the PCT ?
 
Clyde1818 said:
I think I misunderstood your message ? How would a PCT shutdown my natural production, isn't it supposed to make the natural production comeback ? Are you saying it's better to blast 16 weeks, then do TRT doses a while and THEN pct rather than blasting 16 weeks and go directly for the PCT ?
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What I meant is that when you do a PCT, you're restarting your natural production. However, it’s reckless to go right back into a cycle after finishing PCT, as this shuts down your natural production again right away.

What you should do instead is a blast, followed by a TRT dose, and then go back into a cycle, and so on. Essentially, you’d be alternating between blasting and cruising. Then, only when you decide to quit permanently would you do a single PCT. In your lifetime, you should only need one PCT.

Hope this makes things clearer.
 
DugPrime said:
What I meant is that when you do a PCT, you're restarting your natural production. However, it’s reckless to go right back into a cycle after finishing PCT, as this shuts down your natural production again right away.

What you should do instead is a blast, followed by a TRT dose, and then go back into a cycle, and so on. Essentially, you’d be alternating between blasting and cruising. Then, only when you decide to quit permanently would you do a single PCT. In your lifetime, you should only need one PCT.

Hope this makes things clearer.
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Yep, that makes things clearer. I don't want to run many cycles atm but ofc people always say this. Only planning on doing this one for now.
 
Clyde1818 said:
Pretty much what I was thinking for the anavar. More of "I'll see when I get there". Also heard very good things about enclo, seems to work very well for bringing test level back up but I'm not sure about the effects once you go off the enclo, like idk if levels will go back to normal or crashed again...

I'd say diet and training is currently very very dialed in, probably close to as optimal as I can reasonably get it.
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Great to hear aslong as both are going well you will absolutely have a fantastic cycle..

Don't worry about coming off and Pct do what's right for you, if you lose everything eventually after Pct you can just do another cycle..

Everyone is different I did an Anavar only cycle when I was 22yo and was completely advised against doing it.. I went ahead and gained a decent amount of lean muscle and really tightened up using between 40-80mg for two months.. Did no pct let myself "clear out" for 30 days then jumped on the Testosterone shots again.. My physique barely changed in the 30 days off..
 
DugPrime said:
What I meant is that when you do a PCT, you're restarting your natural production. However, it’s reckless to go right back into a cycle after finishing PCT, as this shuts down your natural production again right away.

What you should do instead is a blast, followed by a TRT dose, and then go back into a cycle, and so on. Essentially, you’d be alternating between blasting and cruising. Then, only when you decide to quit permanently would you do a single PCT. In your lifetime, you should only need one PCT.

Hope this makes things clearer.
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What’s a blast (asking for a dipshit 45 yr old who’s got 2500mg of test c sitting here staring at me)
 
SpartanDawg said:
What’s a blast (asking for a dipshit 45 yr old who’s got 2500mg of test c sitting here staring at me)
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2.5k is nothing, let me know when you have 200K MG of test sitting around.
Im generous tonight, a blast is a cycle. (Research the terms, easy google)
A normal cycle is 8k test throughout 16 weeks, which is why I say 2.5k is nothing. Thats 3 weeks.
 
RekTest said:
2.5k is nothing, let me know when you have 200K MG of test sitting around.
Im generous tonight, a blast is a cycle. (Research the terms, easy google)
A normal cycle is 8k test throughout 16 weeks, which is why I say 2.5k is nothing. Thats 3 weeks.
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That’s what I was thinking—this ain’t gonna last. Gonna need to redo another order of 10 kits instead of one. Thanks, bro & Merry Christmas!
 
Assuming 250mg/ml. That's 2500mg/10ml vial. If you have a kit, that's 25k mg total. At 500mg/week you'd go through just over 3 vials in a 16 week course.
 
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