first cycle...

[Mofotyler]

U can get pumps by end of first week. Not everyone is the same as far as gains. Somewhere around 3 weeks usually.

 

[mindgame1516]

dbol youll feel it with in a couple days you should def be pushing out more reps with ease and even adding weight to the bar by the end of the week...lol its something youl know when it kicks in

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

I gotta agree but not sure if I want to wait longer to start test. or just order for pct

 

[mindgame1516]

i do note that with in the first couple days before strenght eve goes up im up a couple lbs in body weight

 

[mindgame1516]

I gotta agree but not sure if I want to wait longer to start test. or just order for pct

im a little confused what is the dilemma with starting the test

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

dbol youll feel it with in a couple days you should def be pushing out more reps with ease and even adding weight to the bar by the end of the week...lol its something youl know when it kicks in

and arimidex if I see or feel something on the nips.. what do you think I should start at? .5 or .25? ed or eod. that's the only thing I see everyone is completely different on. I understand some people end up not needing it.

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

im a little confused what is the dilemma with starting the test

I don't have hcg, in order to start test and run with hcg wouldn't I need to have it on hand? 250iu 2x a week. while running test.

 

[Mofotyler]

I don't have hcg, in order to start test and run with hcg wouldn't I need to have it on hand? 250iu 2x a week. while running test.

Well you can start the hcg on 2nd or 3rd week of test. If u get some shrink u can add a 3rd pin of 250 first 2 weeks of it. But if u already started the dbol and can't get the hcg anytime soon. Then just start the test and run hcg at the end.

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

Well you can start the hcg on 2nd or 3rd week of test. If u get some shrink u can add a 3rd pin of 250 first 2 weeks of it. But if u already started the dbol and can't get the hcg anytime soon. Then just start the test and run hcg at the end.

24 gets stuff out QUICK!. my thing is I need the $ for it and the syringes.

 

[Mofotyler]

So you are already taking the dbol?

 

[Mofotyler]

24 gets stuff out QUICK!. my thing is I need the $ for it and the syringes.

Gpzmedlab.com pretty cheap and if u order tommrow u would get them by Thursday. Atleast that's what I always use for syringes and needle

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

Gpzmedlab.com pretty cheap and if u order tommrow u would get them by Thursday. Atleast that's what I always use for syringes and needle

yea. I started on 25mg a day dbol on Friday.

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

I jumped the gun. couldn't wait took my first shot today. on the quad painless... now to worry about pip. seems people feel it the most the next day. hope its not that bad.

 

[Mofotyler]

I jumped the gun. couldn't wait took my first shot today. on the quad painless... now to worry about pip. seems people feel it the most the next day. hope its not that bad.

Nah you are okay to start pinning. You can just run the hcg at end if u want. Yeah next day is when pip can hurt. As long as you warm it up and pin spot and dont get all shaky you will be fine.

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

I'm up. no pain, ...yet. lol ive heard horror stories. I'm going to order hcg this week. so when can I take it? week 2 of test? thanks

 

[Mofotyler]

Yeah u can start 2nd week

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

shot #2 test e. I'm a rookie. lol went in the quad and hit something (ligament maybe) idk. felt weird pulled it out and reinserted, hit something again. swapped the needle and wen in again this time smooth sailing.. I'm now scared of tomorrows pip due to todays struggles. any advice on what to do if I hit something in there next time?

 

[Mofotyler]

That happen to me last week. Hit a nerve or something. Made my leg flex I broke the needle off. As far as feeling wierd the deeper i go the more akward it feels. Where are you pin at exactly?Do you draw with the same needle you pin with? What gauge needle and length do you use?

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

That happen to me last week. Hit a nerve or something. Made my leg flex I broke the needle off. As far as feeling wierd the deeper i go the more akward it feels. Where are you pin at exactly?Do you draw with the same needle you pin with? What gauge needle and length do you use?

I draw with a 20g and pin with a 25g 1.5 inch needle. I only go in about 1inch and a little like 1/8 or 1/4. I pin petty much where the tip of my fingers sit if I'm standing straight with my hands to m side, on the outer / upper muscle. use the the 25g so that itll go in slow no matter what.
woke up with no real pain I'm guessing itll come in later. gotta admit I got a bit nervous when I hit it a second time. this was on my left leg. I still feel a little spot on my right leg from Mondays pin. thanks for your feedback

 

[CAswole]

That happen to me last week. Hit a nerve or something. Made my leg flex I broke the needle off. As far as feeling wierd the deeper i go the more akward it feels. Where are you pin at exactly?Do you draw with the same needle you pin with? What gauge needle and length do you use?

Dude u broke the needle off inside! ?