First Cycle

[cuizy]

Hello my name is Michael i am 21 years old. i am 71kg at 8% body fat i have been training around for 4 years started at 56kg and i want to do my first cycle. So after a whole research i am between 2 cycles:

First one:
Rexogin (Stanozolol) Alpha Pharma – 10 amp. x 50 mg. Monday-Thursday
Testobolin (Testosterone Enanthate) Alpha Pharma – 10 ?mp. ? 250 mg. Monday-Thursday
2x Alphabol (Methandrostenolone) Alpha Pharma – 50 tabs. x 10 mg. 2 tabs daily


Second one:
Testobolin (Testosterone Enanthate) Alpha Pharma – 10 ?mp. ? 250 mg. Monday-Thursday
Trenacet (Trenbolone Acetate) General European Phatmaceuticals – 10 amp. ? 100 mg. Monday-Thursday
2x Rexobol (Stanozolol) Alpha Pharma – 50 tabs. x 10 mg. 2 tabs daily

Could anyone please help me or correct me about all of these plus tell me about the PCT and liver pills i have to take and all of these? I would like to be maximum 82kg and around 8-10% body fat Thanks.

 

[Ripped]

You should go to the new member section and introduce yourself. And your 21 you should not be running gear at all if you do you can probably say goodbye to a erection you need to wait until you are older and do as much learning and researching about AAS as you can.

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[Riz]

If you had done as much research and you suggested, you would have came to the conclusion that your first cycle should be test only.

And,

your profile says your 26 but in your post you say your 21. Not a good way to start out.

Use the search function on Meso and learn about AI's, Test Esters, Half-Lives, cycle lengths, and PCT protocols.

 

[TrouDuQ]

You are a big boss OP only 2 weak orals for your first cycle and the second one is more fucked ( I see you do not know a shit about short and long esters and how to cycle them)

More info about yourself ?

 

[mohdab]

Hello my name is Michael i am 21 years old. i am 71kg at 8% body fat i have been training around for 4 years started at 56kg and i want to do my first cycle. So after a whole research i am between 2 cycles:

First one:
Rexogin (Stanozolol) Alpha Pharma – 10 amp. x 50 mg. Monday-Thursday
Testobolin (Testosterone Enanthate) Alpha Pharma – 10 ?mp. ? 250 mg. Monday-Thursday
2x Alphabol (Methandrostenolone) Alpha Pharma – 50 tabs. x 10 mg. 2 tabs daily


Second one:
Testobolin (Testosterone Enanthate) Alpha Pharma – 10 ?mp. ? 250 mg. Monday-Thursday
Trenacet (Trenbolone Acetate) General European Phatmaceuticals – 10 amp. ? 100 mg. Monday-Thursday
2x Rexobol (Stanozolol) Alpha Pharma – 50 tabs. x 10 mg. 2 tabs daily

Could anyone please help me or correct me about all of these plus tell me about the PCT and liver pills i have to take and all of these? I would like to be maximum 82kg and around 8-10% body fat Thanks.

First of all you should not be pinning now but if your determined to
I am suggesting you to do this cycle:

14 weeks Test E or Test Cyp 250mg Monday and 250mg Thursday
hcg 500iu a week
AI when needed
pctnolva and clomid 2 weeks after last shot

Before you start have:

3 bottles of test e or cyp
3 bottles of HCG
2 packs of Aromasin or arimidix
1 pack of Nolva
1 pack of Clomid

Do not start your cycle until you have all these things I mentioned on hand.

And why are you even thinking of tren , tren is one of the strongest compounds out there

 

[mohdab]

Read more and more before you even think of starting you obviously dont know shit , don't do the same mistake I did starting young without knowing the fuck you doing

 

[kosta jeezy]

Tren isn't not recommended for first or even second cycles

 

[Big Boss]

read this first before u touch anything :

Ive been having a conversation with my Endocrinologist who may give a more profession opinion on the subject:There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
by Marcus

 

[Munky]

I agree your too young , whatever you do don't even think of running tren get rid of it

 

[Ironlord]

Everyone here seems to be giving you the same vibe. You are too young and still can grow a ton naturally. Eat like a horse, lift heavy and give it a few years. There's no need to be gearing up right now. Take a couple years, put on 15kg more and then when you gear up you can be a beast