first cycle

[irish311]

I am 26, 6'3'' 210 lbs. I am going to take my first cycle in the next month and I was thinking about stacking sust 250 and whinny. I'm trying to cut fat and put on about 20-25 lbs. of lean mass without too much water retention. Will this combination work? Should I use nolvadex or similair and when should I use it? any suggestions?

 

[Adogg4]

I am 26, 6'3'' 210 lbs. I am going to take my first cycle in the next month and I was thinking about stacking sust 250 and whinny. I'm trying to cut fat and put on about 20-25 lbs. of lean mass without too much water retention. Will this combination work? Should I use nolvadex or similair and when should I use it? any suggestions?

bro it is hard to gain mass and cut fat both. you may be better off focusing this cycle around gaining those 25 lbs, then after your cycle is done, take a month to drop the fat. I am on my first cycle also and just begining to understand that rule lol

with that being said, I think a good combo for you would be 600-750mg/week of test en. or cyp for 12 weeks, then start the winny at week 10 and run it through week 14, after which you can begin PCT

Be sure to eat a good 4500 cals a day of mainly clean food

I recommend test enanthate or cypionate because sust should be shot EOD, and enan or cyp only twice a week

 

[raisinnuts]

20-25lbs

Bro, at 6'3" 210lbs, how much fat can you possibly have? I'm 5'8" 225lbs around 14% body fat. I agree with the post above, put on the 20-25 lbs first and then work on getting rid of the fat. A good first cycle to add some beef to your frame would be. Test, Deca and D-bol. JMO bro, good luck.

 

[irish311]

what about anadrol? i'm worried about deca dick. my girlfriend would not be happy.

 

[raisinnuts]

what about anadrol? i'm worried about deca dick. my girlfriend would not be happy.

Keep the test higher than the deca and you should be fine, if not you could run 50mg of clomid eod throughout the cycle to help keep your natural test production.

 

[maxx]

what about anadrol? i'm worried about deca dick. my girlfriend would not be happy.

bro drol can do the same thing as deca,or atleast to me.theyre both progest sides.as long as you are taking a test you shouldnt have any problems with limp peter.but you will have to worry with progest. gyno.my suggestion to is you to sub. out deca for eq.i like eq far more than deca.a good ole test,eq cycle will be a great first cycle.be sure to study up on pct an anti-e's.never do a cycle without them.

maxx

 

[irish311]

where can i find info on pct and anti-e's?

 

[maxx]

where can i find info on pct and anti-e's?

right here bro...just use the search button and read cyle faqs at the top of the page.also there is a profiles section...read read read...


maxx

 

[irish311]

is running only winny 350 mg/week eod worth it? ive had some newb friends get decent results. if yes, would i need any anti-e or pct?

thanks for all the advise.

 

[Deacon]

if you want to gain mass - lean mass - while dropping bodyfat you need to use tren and test.
I suggest tren E and Test cyp or test E.

I gained 20 pounds of lean mass and dropped bodyfat - losing a belt size around my waist while growing much bigger everywhere else