First Test Cicle @ 500mg

[sepsin]

In another forum, I mentioned that for a first cycle it is recommended to start test @ 300mg to gauge aromatization, and only then up the dose slowly to 500mg (according to MPMD advice).

But another (supposed “high knowledge”) user mentioned this



what do you guys think of this?

especially the line “99% of people don’t need AI on daily pins @ 500mgs”

he’s talking abt test P, btw

 

[sepsin]

@sepsin those guys just dropped some elite ball knowledge.

From what I've seen, Clav's take on why test P is superior is because he claims it provides more stable hormone levels. He is mistaken. I think he got it from its injection frequency needing to be ED or EOD. Not really sure.

The thing is, you can pin test C every day too, and because it's half-life is much longer, you'll have far greater hormonal stability than test P.

I'll probably never do test P. Cypionate is super smooth, stable, and PIP free. I don't see why I would ever change esters, unless there is a gear shortage.

Hope this helps. I'm not hating on prop, just wanted you to know the reality of it outside of Looksmaxing and TikTok lol. Who knows, maybe it aligns with your goals the best and you'll enjoy it.

Good luck to you sir

I greatly appreciate this help.

Thank you, sir

 

[shredded.lyfe]

Learn something from this crybaby looksmaxxer who got banished back to TikTok.

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Thread 'A cry for help - Extreme pip after using test propionate 200mg/ml'

Dec 13, 2025

Complete newbie here, started my first cycle 4 days ago. Have been doing everyday injections 0.2 ml which is 40 mg of Test prop 200mg/ml vial. First few hours it does not hurt at all but the next day, it feels as if someone stabbed me or shot me with a gun in that muscle. How do I deal with this pip? Is it common?

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Seeing that retard get banned has made my day, thankyou

 

[Cman90]

Seeing that retard get banned has made my day, thankyou

Bro same lol

 

[Jjsmacks74]

In another forum, I mentioned that for a first cycle it is recommended to start test @ 300mg to gauge aromatization, and only then up the dose slowly to 500mg (according to MPMD advice).

But another (supposed “high knowledge”) user mentioned this

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what do you guys think of this?

especially the line “99% of people don’t need AI on daily pins @ 500mgs”

he’s talking abt test P, btw

I'm on board w 500mgs of test E for your 1st 12 wk. test cycle. You should already have your ancillary drugs to combat potential aromatization. ie. Letrozole, Aromasin, Tamoxifen etc.
Good luck & Merry Christmas

 

[JK1]

@sepsin how have you faired in your decisions/progress/lessons, assuming that you started?

The where to start seems to repeat itself over and over. As alwayd its up to the person but they need to know the tradeoffs and also recognise something resembling impatience or managing expectations. All that said starting at 500 is definately not where I would sit. Anecdotes, but ive seen enpugh people get into a bit of a mess with 500 off the bat even with ancillaries (yes some are fine) and also the massive difference in responses between people at different doses is itself alone a good enough reason for me to start much lower.

Dude, I'm lean af and on just 15mg test cyp every day my estradiol is 95

There is literally no way to guess or make an accurate assumption about it

Get all your baseline stuff checked. If your SHBG is high, that's going to mess things up.

And to add to this, i am naturally very lean and can hit an e2 of 110pg/ml on 250mg per week. Also sit on the high end for shbg wirh test only (and natural).

I think if you can get the same or better response at a lower dose (with less spillover into side effects) then thats a sensible approach.

 

[Athleticfreak]

props half life is 0.8 days mate
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2-3 days is incorrect

There’s others Google searches that say different from these half lives above. So it’s tough to say what is actually fact.

 

[Athleticfreak]

start with c or d, get comfortable with pinning once weekly before you cripple your shoulders and quads everyday

Please don’t pin once weekly with C or E @sepsin . 2-3 times a week is the way to go or daily with prop.

 

[ripper908]

I personally would start at 400mg a week. More than enough to put some good size on very low change of side effects