First Test Cycle Dosing Advice

[fino]

Quit alcohol brother. Personal advice, no benefit. Especially taking roids with it.

When you say it like this it makes me feel lilke im drinking everyday lol, but i completely understand what you mean. It’s not like I like alcohol fully, I only drink for social reasons and for the most part I enjoy the tipsy feeling and being in the zone with everyone else if you get what I mean. I hate how alcohol tastes and I never drink it outside of social setting like I previously mentioned.

 

[fino]

When you say it like this it makes me feel lilke im drinking everyday lol, but i completely understand what you mean. It’s not like I like alcohol fully, I only drink for social reasons and for the most part I enjoy the tipsy feeling and being in the zone with everyone else if you get what I mean. I hate how alcohol tastes and I never drink it outside of social setting like I previously mentioned.

it also lowers my inhibition which I enjoy a lot more that everything I previously mentioned

 

[Cman90]

I do not know why people here or on reddit seem to shit on youngsters trying to use test. Nothing is wrong with test if you have proper ancillaries on hand, probably the most safest steroid you can take.

I wasn't shitting on him, I answered his question, and then warned him of potential risks/dangers.

This Looksmaxxing thing is getting out of hand, and is going to cause a lot of young kids harming them selves. It's glorified AAS, making them seem a lot safer than they actually are.

I wanted to do steroids since I was 18, but luckily waited until I was 25. Even then I got terrible sides that made me stop my cycle early. Had planned to blast and cruise but decided to fully PCT off because of how bad the sides were; hair loss, terrible acne, ED, bloating, and depression. Felt horrible for months during PCT and ended up being even weaker and smaller than baseline.

The same could happen for you. You've been warned. Not doing steroids is maximum harm reduction.

If you're going to do it anyway, this is the best place to be to do it safely.

 

[SeriosReborn]

I wasn't shitting on him, I answered his question, and then warned him of potential risks/dangers.

This Looksmaxxing thing is getting out of hand, and is going to cause a lot of young kids harming them selves. It's glorified AAS, making them seem a lot safer than they actually are.

I wanted to do steroids since I was 18, but luckily waited until I was 25. Even then I got terrible sides that made me stop my cycle early. Had planned to blast and cruise but decided to fully PCT off because of how bad the sides were; hair loss, terrible acne, ED, bloating, and depression. Felt horrible for months during PCT and ended up being even weaker and smaller than baseline.

The same could happen for you. You've been warned. Not doing steroids is maximum harm reduction.

If you're going to do it anyway, this is the best place to be to do it safely.

Fair, I am 21 too, turned 21 a week ago but I did like 2-3 months worth of research before comitting to this cycle (The same cycle I would recommend to OP to minimize damages):
Test P 300mg/week (Might titrate up slowly as long as i dont receive too much sides) (I will be pinning ED)
Dut 0.5mg (I dont have hairloss but m gonna take it incase test nukes my skin)
Arimidex 0.25mg (Use only if I notice high e2)
HCG 500IU weekly after week 6
Isotret - 20 mg (I will use ONLY if I notice acne) (Hopefully not)
Eplerenone - 25 mg Daily (Incase I get water retention)
HGH 4IU daily.

 

[BALLISTIC]

Thats on them and its YOUR job and MY job to guide them to a good direction. This is a health forum but all we can do here is shit on others for trying to start something. Maybe instead of writing this fuckass long reply, you could try to guide this lad in a rather nicer direction?

Everything has repurcussions my guy, whether at a young age or old age LMAO. You taking tylenol has repurcussions, you driving to work has repurcussions. That means we should stop taking tylenol and stop driving to work?

You’re confusing guidance with hand holding, and that’s the disconnect here.

This is a health first forum, not a motivational speaker circuit. The bare minimum expectation is that someone introduces themselves, outlines their situation, and demonstrates they’ve done at least baseline research. That’s not “shitting on people” it's filtering out recklessness.

Testosterone being “safer than other compounds” does not mean it’s benign, especially for younger users who don’t understand HPTA suppression, fertility implications, lipid damage, or long term endocrine consequences. Reducing that conversation to “just have ancillaries bruh” is exactly how bad decisions get normalized.

Your Tylenol analogy misses the point entirely and is out off ignorance. Risk isn’t binary, it’s dose dependent, context dependent, and age dependent. Doctors don’t hand out drugs to teenagers because “everything has repercussions anyway.”

No one here is obligated to spoon feed people who haven’t shown basic effort. This isn't a job by any means not mine or yours. Direction is earned through accountability, not entitlement. If someone can’t handle being told to slow down, research, and respect the process, they’re not ready for hormones. You sticking up for arrogant ignorance is a prime example.

That's responsibility.

 

[SeriosReborn]

You’re confusing guidance with hand holding, and that’s the disconnect here.

We all begin from somewhere lol. Its the same theory as which came first: chicken or egg. Not guiding them or holding their hands will lead them to disaster.

This is a health first forum, not a motivational speaker circuit. The bare minimum expectation is that someone introduces themselves, outlines their situation, and demonstrates they’ve done at least baseline research. That’s not “shitting on people” it's filtering out recklessness.

Nobody is obligated to do their introduction to you the same way you are not obligated to "spoon feed them" (in your own words).

Testosterone being “safer than other compounds” does not mean it’s benign, especially for younger users who don’t understand HPTA suppression, fertility implications, lipid damage, or long term endocrine consequences. Reducing that conversation to “just have ancillaries bruh” is exactly how bad decisions get normalized.

Okay so you are trying to say testosterone is safer for middle aged and old people and not young people? LOL

Your Tylenol analogy misses the point entirely and is out off ignorance. Risk isn’t binary, it’s dose dependent, context dependent, and age dependent. Doctors don’t hand out drugs to teenagers because “everything has repercussions anyway.”

No it does not misses a point, testosterone, just like tylenol, is also dose dependant, context dependant, and age dependant. But both are used anyway. Maybe YOU should stop doing roids if you think its really dangerous, why are YOU doing it?

No one here is obligated to spoon feed people who haven’t shown basic effort. This isn't a job by any means not mine or yours. Direction is earned through accountability, not entitlement. If someone can’t handle being told to slow down, research, and respect the process, they’re not ready for hormones. You sticking up for arrogant ignorance is a prime example.

Yes, they are not obligated, nor are they to give you any introduction. There are people out there that will guide them and in turn, hopefully, the same person that got guided, will guide other newbies.

That's responsibility.

Sure HAHA

 

[fino]

Fair, I am 21 too, turned 21 a week ago but I did like 2-3 months worth of research before comitting to this cycle (The same cycle I would recommend to OP to minimize damages):
Test P 300mg/week (Might titrate up slowly as long as i dont receive too much sides) (I will be pinning ED)
Dut 0.5mg (I dont have hairloss but m gonna take it incase test nukes my skin)
Arimidex 0.25mg (Use only if I notice high e2)
HCG 500IU weekly after week 6
Isotret - 20 mg (I will use ONLY if I notice acne) (Hopefully not)
Eplerenone - 25 mg Daily (Incase I get water retention)
HGH 4IU daily.

1. I want even considering dut because hair loss doesn't run in my family
2. are u using hcg so youre balls dont atrophy and dont stop producing test by themselves so u can just come off and not use pct?
3.hgh to burn fat and build muscle?

 

[BALLISTIC]

I wasn't shitting on him, I answered his question, and then warned him of potential risks/dangers.

This Looksmaxxing thing is getting out of hand, and is going to cause a lot of young kids harming them selves. It's glorified AAS, making them seem a lot safer than they actually are.

I wanted to do steroids since I was 18, but luckily waited until I was 25. Even then I got terrible sides that made me stop my cycle early. Had planned to blast and cruise but decided to fully PCT off because of how bad the sides were; hair loss, terrible acne, ED, bloating, and depression. Felt horrible for months during PCT and ended up being even weaker and smaller than baseline.

The same could happen for you. You've been warned. Not doing steroids is maximum harm reduction.

If you're going to do it anyway, this is the best place to be to do it safely.

My hope is 1 day they'll get it. I'm lucky I started at 33. Had my three children, then my wife wanted to try for another child. Unfortunately that ship sailed and long after 20k in DRs and fertility management, I'm unable. So I'm with you in stopping the glorification of social media AAS use. They don't even have a clear outlook on everything life has to offer.

 

[SeriosReborn]

1. I want even considering dut because hair loss doesn't run in my family
2. are u using hcg so youre balls dont atrophy and dont stop producing test by themselves so u can just come off and not use pct?
3.hgh to burn fat and build muscle?

1. Dut isn't just for hairloss, its to prevent the excess DHT from nuking your skin elastin. Take it.
2. Yes, use HCG so your balls dont shrink and lose ability to produce sperms.
3. HGH for faster recovery, might cause bloat and water retention though. Take nebivolol with it.

 

[fino]

My hope is 1 day they'll get it. I'm lucky I started at 33. Had my three children, then my wife wanted to try for another child. Unfortunately that ship sailed and long after 20k in DRs and fertility management, I'm unable. So I'm with you in stopping the glorification of social media AAS use. They didn't even have a clear outlook on everything life has to offer.

I dont really care for fertility tbh. Plans are to become a millionaire have 3 wifes and If a child is born from my continious sex marathons, it's his or her destiny to be on this Earth.

 

[SeriosReborn]

I dont really care for fertility tbh. Plans are to become a millionaire have 3 wifes and If a child is born from my continious sex marathons, it's his or her destiny to be on this Earth.

You won't lose your fertility on just test alone (assuming below 500mg dose) if you use HCG lol. That is just fear mongering cope. You can always freeze your sperms.

 

[fino]

You won't lose your fertility on just test alone (assuming below 500mg dose) if you use HCG lol. That is just fear mongering cope. You can always freeze your sperms.

But your reasons to use hcg is for fertility?

 

[SeriosReborn]

But your reasons to use hcg is for fertility?

Yes.

 

[BALLISTIC]

We all begin from somewhere lol. Its the same theory as which came first: chicken or egg. Not guiding them or holding their hands will lead them to disaster.

Nobody is obligated to do their introduction to you the same way you are not obligated to "spoon feed them" (in your own words).

Okay so you are trying to say testosterone is safer for middle aged and old people and not young people? LOL

No it does not misses a point, testosterone, just like tylenol, is also dose dependant, context dependant, and age dependant. But both are used anyway. Maybe YOU should stop doing roids if you think its really dangerous, why are YOU doing it?

Yes, they are not obligated, nor are they to give you any introduction. There are people out there that will guide them and in turn, hopefully, the same person that got guided, will guide other newbies.

Sure HAHA

Your not real bright are you. I'll forgive you, arrogance at 21 is a hard demon to beat.

Introduction is forum rules and the first sign they're not paying attention.

How did you interpret in any way that I stated testosterone is safer at different ages? Curious because you're seeming extremely argumentative and just jumping to conclusions.

If your comparing what a minor dose of Tylenol can cause side effect wise to what a minor dose of testosterone can you clearly don't understand. Obviously they both have side effects that's acknowledged. Timeframe matters yes. Why your even comparing them is confusing.

I'm done, sweet dreams cupcake.

 

[fino]

Yes.

I don't care much for fertility. I was thinking of implementing it because a roider gave me the advice to use it while on cycle in case I wanted to come off. Basicaly he told me I shouldn't do pct after a cycle because there's a study that shows it has no benefits:

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/36/4/880/6129954?login=false

 

[SeriosReborn]

I don't care much for fertility. I was thinking of implementing it because a roider gave me the advice to use it while on cycle in case I wanted to come off. Basicaly he told me I shouldn't do pct after a cycle because there's a study that shows it has no benefits:

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/36/4/880/6129954?login=false

Is his name chadisbeingmade?

 

[BALLISTIC]

But your reasons to use hcg is for fertility?

My man, don't listen to this guy. He is the epitome of ignorance. Any dose can destroy fertility. It's subject independent. Timeframe dependant.

 

[Cman90]

We all begin from somewhere lol. Its the same theory as which came first: chicken or egg. Not guiding them or holding their hands will lead them to disaster.

Nobody is obligated to do their introduction to you the same way you are not obligated to "spoon feed them" (in your own words).

Okay so you are trying to say testosterone is safer for middle aged and old people and not young people? LOL

No it does not misses a point, testosterone, just like tylenol, is also dose dependant, context dependant, and age dependant. But both are used anyway. Maybe YOU should stop doing roids if you think its really dangerous, why are YOU doing it?

Yes, they are not obligated, nor are they to give you any introduction. There are people out there that will guide them and in turn, hopefully, the same person that got guided, will guide other newbies.

Sure HAHA

Buddy. Read the rules. If you are wanting to be a member of the community, you are obligated to do your research, not ask retarded questions, and respect long time members that have been doing this for years and are trying to help you. Long time members are obligated to not answer your retarded spoon feeding bullshit questions, but they do because they want to help.

Your protocol and responses are indicative of Looksmaxxing fuckery and show you haven't done the research required to safely do AAS.

If you're going to keep acting like a dick head and not take advice from much more experienced members, go back to that TikTok Looksmaxxing hellscape you came from.

 

[fino]

Is his name chadisbeingmade?

Hahahha i see ur from org

 

[SeriosReborn]

My man, don't listen to this guy. He is the epitome of ignorance. Any dose can destroy fertility. It's subject independent. Timeframe dependant.

Holy bro, you are literally using 12 iu of Hgh a day and god knows what you did when you first started to become infertile and you are trying to guide this guy? Anyone would be infertile with the doses you tried to do lol. He is trying to do test only cycle, god damn bro take a break.