First Test E cycle

[billsmafia]

The time has come for me to start my first cycle. I've been researching for about a month now and think I have a good amount of knowledge to start. I want to start with a very basic cycle that I think many first time users go with. I am about 5'10''. I have been around 135 pounds all my life but after beginning to eat right and with weight training for 3 years I am up to 175 pounds. My goal for this cycle is to just gain bulk. I plan to take in about 3500 clean calories a day.

My cycle:

Weeks 1-12: Test E 500 mg every week split into 2 shots on Monday and Thursday.
Weeks 2-12: .25 mg EOD of arimidex.

pct: Will begin 2 weeks after last pin
clomid: 100/100/50/50
nolva: 40/40/20/20

I have read a lot of mixed reviews on PCT and have come to the conclusion that what i posted above is the best route to take.

I have also read that for a lot of people, the Arimidex might not even be necessary. Just to see how your body reacts for a little bit and keep it on hand in case of gyno.

Any thoughts that you guys have would be very much appreciated.

 

[Leancuisine]

Looks great.
And great job on the natural muscle gain.
PCT usually starts 3 weeks afterat shot. And the clomid is usually ran at 100mg first week, 50 for the remainder, and Nolva 20mg all throughout.

Did you have gyno while going through puberty? Supposedly, bro science, that is a good way to tell if you are prone to gyno. I would take it just in case.

Any blood work done? That's the best way to tell your estrogen levels.... really the only way to actually tell.
Looks great though. Very responsible first cycle.

 

[billsmafia]

Looks great.
And great job on the natural muscle gain.
PCT usually starts 3 weeks afterat shot. And the clomid is usually ran at 100mg first week, 50 for the remainder, and Nolva 20mg all throughout.

Did you have gyno while going through puberty? Supposedly, bro science, that is a good way to tell if you are prone to gyno. I would take it just in case.

Any blood work done? That's the best way to tell your estrogen levels.... really the only way to actually tell.
Looks great though. Very responsible first cycle.

Thank you. I've heard a lot of different opinions about pct but they are all within the same general range. It is hard to tell what is exactly the right amount to take of everything until I experience it myself I guess. I didn't have any signs of gyno while going through puberty, thank god. I do need to get blood work done. I'm sure my doctor could send me to get it done as my aunt works there as a nurse and he knows my whole family. So that will save me some money. Thank you for your input.

 

[Dw725]

I've personally never ran a double drug pct, but I have read that if you choose to , many suggest that you only use half the dose of each. The nolva alone can be enough to kick-start the hpta , especially only being 25 y/o and this your first cycle. At 12 weeks of test only I'd think you would recover fine.

 

[paul1454]

Disclaimer: Dumb question, but what does 100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20 mean? I've been trying to search and figure it out but haven't had any luck finding an answer.

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[tweek]

Disclaimer: Dumb question, but what does 100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20 mean? I've been trying to search and figure it out but haven't had any luck finding an answer.

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what he means by 100/100/50/50 is it represents the dosages ed for the week- Wk1/Wk2/Wk3/Wk4
so for week 1 he would be at 100mg a day, by 3rd week it would be at 50mg a day etc.

 

[paul1454]

Okay, thanks. That makes sense. I just wasn't sure if it was ew or ed. I'm a long way from ever needing it but trying to learn as much as I can long before I do. Much appreciated.

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[InquisitiveT]

Nice first cycle. I'm on the verge of starting mine - just waiting for bloods! I'm doing it very similarly;

W1-12 Test E 500mg (250 2x a week)
W2-12 Adex .5mg E3D
PCT W14-18 Nolva 50/50/25/25 (I unfortunately have to bump it compared to the norm at 40/40/20/20 because my Nolva tabs are 25mg each... figured this would be fine though)

How has your cycle been going? Any feedback on mine? Thanks.

 

[Dw725]

Nice first cycle. I'm on the verge of starting mine - just waiting for bloods! I'm doing it very similarly;

W1-12 Test E 500mg (250 2x a week)
W2-12 Adex .5mg E3D
PCT W14-18 Nolva 50/50/25/25 (I unfortunately have to bump it compared to the norm at 40/40/20/20 because my Nolva tabs are 25mg each... figured this would be fine though)

How has your cycle been going? Any feedback on mine? Thanks.

As long as your gear is good quality you'll enjoy it. Test is always a good run, U can get whatever u want out of it based on how you diet and train. Pick a goal and run with it and you'll be happy with the results once it's all Said and done. The adex e3d should be good, and you'll get blood work after 5 weeks or so to see if u need any adjustment. Once u learn how ur body aromatizes you got 75% of combatting side effects of test handled.

 

[InquisitiveT]

As long as your gear is good quality you'll enjoy it. Test is always a good run, U can get whatever u want out of it based on how you diet and train. Pick a goal and run with it and you'll be happy with the results once it's all Said and done. The adex e3d should be good, and you'll get blood work after 5 weeks or so to see if u need any adjustment. Once u learn how ur body aromatizes you got 75% of combatting side effects of test handled.

Thanks for your feedback. As a side question here, some folks recommend HCG (e.g 250iu 2x a week). Some say it's not necessary and your testicles will grow back with a proper pct anyways, especially since 500mg cycle isn't anything crazy. Pretty conservative in my opinion. What's your thought on the HCG?

 

[Flaming Dragon]

The time has come for me to start my first cycle. I've been researching for about a month now and think I have a good amount of knowledge to start. I want to start with a very basic cycle that I think many first time users go with. I am about 5'10''. I have been around 135 pounds all my life but after beginning to eat right and with weight training for 3 years I am up to 175 pounds. My goal for this cycle is to just gain bulk. I plan to take in about 3500 clean calories a day.

My cycle:

Weeks 1-12: Test E 500 mg every week split into 2 shots on Monday and Thursday.
Weeks 2-12: .25 mg EOD of arimidex.

pct: Will begin 2 weeks after last pin
clomid: 100/100/50/50
nolva: 40/40/20/20

I have read a lot of mixed reviews on PCT and have come to the conclusion that what i posted above is the best route to take.

I have also read that for a lot of people, the Arimidex might not even be necessary. Just to see how your body reacts for a little bit and keep it on hand in case of gyno.

Any thoughts that you guys have would be very much appreciated.

Everything looks good my man.. I would recommend you wait atleast 3-4 weeks after your last pin before starting PCT. Did you do pre-blood work? It's very important in knowing if you've recovered to baseline after this cycle.

As for PCT dosage.. I say your clomid's to high. I would run 50/25/25/25.. But with your cycle.. Nolva only would do @ 40/20/20/20

 

[Dw725]

Thanks for your feedback. As a side question here, some folks recommend HCG (e.g 250iu 2x a week). Some say it's not necessary and your testicles will grow back with a proper pct anyways, especially since 500mg cycle isn't anything crazy. Pretty conservative in my opinion. What's your thought on the HCG?

I've never used hcg, even on some of my higher dosed cycles, but I wouldn't discount the fact that others use/need it. For your cycle specifically, I wouldn't run it throughout as some do when using hcg, but if you were going to use it I believe bridging into pct is the way, but don't quote me on that. Someone else would be better fit to give advice on this as I have no experience with hcg.

 

[InquisitiveT]

I've never used hcg, even on some of my higher dosed cycles, but I wouldn't discount the fact that others use/need it. For your cycle specifically, I wouldn't run it throughout as some do when using hcg, but if you were going to use it I believe bridging into pct is the way, but don't quote me on that. Someone else would be better fit to give advice on this as I have no experience with hcg.

Thanks, bud. I don't plan on using it actually. Just trying to further educate myself, that's all. Last question:

I hear lots of folks say to use just nolva only for a cycle like this. Others say add in a small dose of clomid as well at 100/50/25/25 or something. this way you're running Nolva and clomid together for a more effective Pct. what are your thoughts on this? Is there such a thing as overkill in a Pct? Or is Nolva only solid. Thanks.

 

[Dw725]

Thanks, bud. I don't plan on using it actually. Just trying to further educate myself, that's all. Last question:

I hear lots of folks say to use just nolva only for a cycle like this. Others say add in a small dose of clomid as well at 100/50/25/25 or something. this way you're running Nolva and clomid together for a more effective Pct. what are your thoughts on this? Is there such a thing as overkill in a Pct? Or is Nolva only solid. Thanks.

Nolva and clomid together can be more thorough in some cases, they have different modes of action at the pituatary I believe. I think more people have sides with clomid though leading many to just leave it out. It isn't necessary, so the choice to use it is up to you. I haven't used it, but I know if I was months off of cycle and bloodwork showed I was still having trouble restarting, I'd give the double pct and hcg both a try. I haven't had trouble with recovery, so nolva only has worked fine for me thus far. With age and further cycling there's a good chance that won't be the case. That's part of the unspoken agreement you make when you choose to use anabolics. Your mileage may vary.