First time on tren

dont feel like sticking myself every day so im not going to do it. my coach says 3x a week is fine so thats what im going to do. yes im expecting it to be underdosed, possibly even 50% (this is assuming its real tren) so each week i will up the dose until i actually "feel" something.

28g 1/2" insulin pins. It's nothing, can't even feel it. Ur coach may know his programming but he don't know gear. Even though your a dipshit for blast n cruise @ 20 I'd still like to see you reach your goals. Good luck
 
28g 1/2" insulin pins. It's nothing, can't even feel it. Ur coach may know his programming but he don't know gear. Even though your a dipshit for blast n cruise @ 20 I'd still like to see you reach your goals. Good luck
he knows enough to set national records so im going to follow his advice

you're entitled to an opinion. i have serious goals in this sport and want to see how far i can go. going on for life was a decision i made and its one that i don't regret.
 
he knows enough to set national records so im going to follow his advice

you're entitled to an opinion. i have serious goals in this sport and want to see how far i can go. going on for life was a decision i made and its one that i don't regret.

Dont think about pinning as in 3x a week or 4x a week, think about it and ED or EOD. This can help you keep more stable. @hotdog23 knows his shit very well, I agree ED is ideal and your dosing is on the low end to see the maximum results. You can get away with EOD but I do recommend going higher on your doses. And not everyone gets the side affects everyone talks about like insomnia or tren cough. But if you keep your diet right by the end of the cycle you should be seeing a body recomp. You should be more vascular with. noticeable quality muscle, your shoulders should look veiny as fuck with striations. Ill have to look at your cycle again to see everything your taking along with th doses.
 
Started Superior's tren ace @ 100mg 3x a week on tuesday. second pin will be today. not feeling much yet but i dont know what to expect. didn't have coughing, but definitely a distinct alcohol almost cherry-like taste during the first one. currently peaking for a meet on March 14th, so next week will be 150mg 3x and the final two weeks leading up will be 200mg 3x if i can handle it at that dose. Current maxes are 525/345/500 raw, shooting for 585/360/525 in comp

edit: im also on 400mg of shitty Sciroxx test (so pinning 4cc since its less than half dosed) and 50mg pre workout of superior dbol. will be dropping the orals and tren after my meet and going down to 150mg of test a week to cruise for a while

I would have chosen abombs over the dbol for strength and aesthetic reasons the last 4 weeks of this blast. Also would keep my test alot lower than tren to prevent conversion due to trens higher affinity, no one likes gyno. I like test for sexual function only.
 
Dont think about pinning as in 3x a week or 4x a week, think about it and ED or EOD. This can help you keep more stable. @hotdog23 knows his shit very well, I agree ED is ideal and your dosing is on the low end to see the maximum results. You can get away with EOD but I do recommend going higher on your doses. And not everyone gets the side affects everyone talks about like insomnia or tren cough. But if you keep your diet right by the end of the cycle you should be seeing a body recomp. You should be more vascular with. noticeable quality muscle, your shoulders should look veiny as fuck with striations. Ill have to look at your cycle again to see everything your taking along with th doses.

ya i think i shoulda gone with abombs too but was worried about putting on too much water and not making the 220. definitely trying anadrol after my meet though...after a decently good cruise to give my mind and body a break. as far as the tren goes, yes im pretty much going to keep upping the dose until i feel its adequate which may not happen if it ends up being fake lol.

and physique-wise, i dont believe ill see much change. you're forgetting im not a bodybuilder lol. my style of training at the moment is geared towards peaking for heavy singles, not high volume hypertrophy work
 
ya i think i shoulda gone with abombs too but was worried about putting on too much water and not making the 220. definitely trying anadrol after my meet though...after a decently good cruise to give my mind and body a break. as far as the tren goes, yes im pretty much going to keep upping the dose until i feel its adequate which may not happen if it ends up being fake lol.

and physique-wise, i dont believe ill see much change. you're forgetting im not a bodybuilder lol. my style of training at the moment is geared towards peaking for heavy singles, not high volume hypertrophy work

You will like abombs for sure, the tren shoukd help keep the water off, I find dbol bloats me more anyways. I can even cut with anadrol. Thats good youre tapering up to find a sweet spot, I prefer at least 600mgs a week. Eventhough youre not a bodybuilder you should still see some change. Tren seems to burn fat off me without even trying. If you nick a vein with tren dont flip out, the feeling of dying goes away after a couple of mins lol.
 
You will like abombs for sure, the tren shoukd help keep the water off, I find dbol bloats me more anyways. I can even cut with anadrol. Thats good youre tapering up to find a sweet spot, I prefer at least 600mgs a week. Eventhough youre not a bodybuilder you should still see some change. Tren seems to burn fat off me without even trying. If you nick a vein with tren dont flip out, the feeling of dying goes away after a couple of mins lol.
dbol just makes me full and vascular i like it. i dont get that bloated watery look or a moon face either. i knew my Sciroxx dbol was fake when i didnt have a crippling back pump after deadlifts on 100mg lol

fuck Karl
 
Dont think about pinning as in 3x a week or 4x a week, think about it and ED or EOD. This can help you keep more stable. @hotdog23 knows his shit very well, I agree ED is ideal and your dosing is on the low end to see the maximum results. You can get away with EOD but I do recommend going higher on your doses. And not everyone gets the side affects everyone talks about like insomnia or tren cough. But if you keep your diet right by the end of the cycle you should be seeing a body recomp. You should be more vascular with. noticeable quality muscle, your shoulders should look veiny as fuck with striations. Ill have to look at your cycle again to see everything your taking along with th doses.

Ozzy, it's perfectly fine to pin tren a MWF. I'm pinning it now only twice a week myself. For strength and mass purposes there is evidence showing peaks and valleys to be better than stability in levels.
 
ya i think i shoulda gone with abombs too but was worried about putting on too much water and not making the 220. definitely trying anadrol after my meet though...after a decently good cruise to give my mind and body a break. as far as the tren goes, yes im pretty much going to keep upping the dose until i feel its adequate which may not happen if it ends up being fake lol.

and physique-wise, i dont believe ill see much change. you're forgetting im not a bodybuilder lol. my style of training at the moment is geared towards peaking for heavy singles, not high volume hypertrophy work

If you have real tren, BBer or not, you will see physique changes. Last tren run I was on 4000cal maintenance diet and began waking up at 2am to eat 2500cals worth of cereal, PBnJ, and ice cream bc tren got my appetite out of control. Even with those extra cals I still changed my physique dramatically without trying.
 
If you have real tren, BBer or not, you will see physique changes. Last tren run I was on 4000cal maintenance diet and began waking up at 2am to eat 2500cals worth of cereal, PBnJ, and ice cream bc tren got my appetite out of control. Even with those extra cals I still changed my physique dramatically without trying.
thats reassuring. i have trouble eating enough consistently so this may help. i have heard tren causes your body temp to go up after large carb intakes?


edit: since the majority of this forum IS concerned primarily with aesthetics, here is what i've accomplished on TRT doses in the last 10 months. only recently upped to 400 a few weeks ago:
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used nothing but test since i started training again in april coming off a 6 month injury. i will admit, i thought i was taking more test (500mg or so) but blood work proved otherwise. my levels never came back at more than 2000 suggesting i was only pinning a measly 200mg lol. shitty sources suck but im working with what i have available to me.

5'11", 215 lbs, ~14% bf i want to say
 
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thats reassuring. i have trouble eating enough consistently so this may help. i have heard tren causes your body temp to go up after large carb intakes?

Tren and T3 definitely help increase my appetite but t3 is not something you want right now. Yes, I notice after eating a large carb meal I am flushing and get extremely hot. I'm in the northeast and we have been getting temps in the negatives recently. I go outside in a t shirt and still sweat but I naturally run hot also.


edit: since the majority of this forum IS concerned primarily with aesthetics, here is what i've accomplished on TRT doses in the last 10 months. only recently upped to 400 a few weeks ago:
Vckzffd.jpg


used nothing but test since i started training again in april coming off a 6 month injury. i will admit, i thought i was taking more test (500mg or so) but blood work proved otherwise. my levels never came back at more than 2000 suggesting i was only pinning a measly 200mg lol. shitty sources suck but im working with what i have available to me.

5'11", 215 lbs, ~14% bf i want to say

Physique and aesthetics are a distant second place if that to me. Strength/power/work capacity are much more important but obviously I'd still like to see my own dick without a mirror. Not a bad job on your physique at all considering your goals. I'd put you at closer to 12%.
 
Can't speak for superior's Tren, but I'm four weeks in on Tren a pinning three times a week 150mg per pin. I love it so far, if for no other reason this 43 year old man is screwing like a 25 year old rock star. Enjoy it, just watch for the sides. The short fuse will sneak up on you.

why only 3 pins I was told to do eod instead if there is no reasoning behind it I might just stick with 3 a week for my upcoming plan
 
why only 3 pins I was told to do eod instead if there is no reasoning behind it I might just stick with 3 a week for my upcoming plan
Many here say you have to do eod to keep levels even, but I see no negative effects doing three times a week. I like the set weekly schedule.
 
Ozzy, it's perfectly fine to pin tren a MWF. I'm pinning it now only twice a week myself. For strength and mass purposes there is evidence showing peaks and valleys to be better than stability in levels.

Were talking about acetate here right? I think you might be able to get away with a mwf dosing if your doses were high enough, but the short half life doesjt make this ideal. Twice a week for ace is really pushing it.
 
Were talking about acetate here right? I think you might be able to get away with a mwf dosing if your doses were high enough, but the short half life doesjt make this ideal. Twice a week for ace is really pushing it.

Yup tren a. I know I'm pushing it but it's an experiment for me lol. I have recently added tren e which changes things but before adding it no issues
 
Yup tren a. I know I'm pushing it but it's an experiment for me lol. I have recently added tren e which changes things but before adding it no issues

I wont lie, I do experiments sometimes too, more like playing around till I find my sweet spot. Ive been thinking about fucking around with some tren hex next cycle, thats a compoud Ive never used.

yeah i think ill stick with low dose eod

Yea just stick to the basic protocols. Im having to cut my cycle off early with the birth of my boy. Havent been to the gym in over 4 days and diet was shit at the hospital, not to mention lack of sleep. The last week I pinned 800mgs af tren and seen a big difference. Actually got night sweats again, soaked my sheet and pillows. Next cycle will be from that super private source, going big this time around.
 
thats reassuring. i have trouble eating enough consistently so this may help. i have heard tren causes your body temp to go up after large carb intakes?


edit: since the majority of this forum IS concerned primarily with aesthetics, here is what i've accomplished on TRT doses in the last 10 months. only recently upped to 400 a few weeks ago:
Vckzffd.jpg


used nothing but test since i started training again in april coming off a 6 month injury. i will admit, i thought i was taking more test (500mg or so) but blood work proved otherwise. my levels never came back at more than 2000 suggesting i was only pinning a measly 200mg lol. shitty sources suck but im working with what i have available to me.

5'11", 215 lbs, ~14% bf i want to say

Dude you have an excellent frame, you will definately recomp and most likely will look more like a BB than a strong man. I think youll like the results if its good tren.
 
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