Fist cycle. Testo +Bolde + Anavar

[FrankZane88]

Hello,
I would like to post the first cycle that I have designed based on some information I´ve found in this forum. My goal is gain lean muscle and some definition.

I have decided to choose Testosterone Enanthate because is probably one of the most commons testos to start a cycle and it is giving great results.

Boldenone. I choose this one due to the quality of muscle mass and strength gains.

Anavar. I decided to use this because of it i working well as a “finisher” to add extra polish to the physique. I ´ve consider Winstrol too but finally I chose Anavar. Moreover Anavar has less effects on your hair than the Wintrol (Stanozol).

Probably I am going to take 10 mg/day Tamoxifen unless I feel some gynecomastia effects during the cycle. I could increase the doses to 20 mg per day. I am not so sure about this point.

Finally I think I will take LIV52 when I will start with the Anavar pills and not before.

I am waiting for your opinions.

HT: 6'
WT: 202 Pounds
BF%: About 18%

Here it is.

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

Hello,
I would like to post the first cycle that I have designed based on some information I´ve found in this forum. My goal is gain lean muscle and some definition.

I have decided to choose Testosterone Enanthate because is probably one of the most commons testos to start a cycle and it is giving great results.

Boldenone. I choose this one due to the quality of muscle mass and strength gains.

Anavar. I decided to use this because of it i working well as a “finisher” to add extra polish to the physique. I ´ve consider Winstrol too but finally I chose Anavar. Moreover Anavar has less effects on your hair than the Wintrol (Stanozol).

Probably I am going to take 10 mg/day Tamoxifen unless I feel some gynecomastia effects during the cycle. I could increase the doses to 20 mg per day. I am not so sure about this point.

Finally I think I will take LIV52 when I will start with the Anavar pills and not before.

I am waiting for your opinions.

HT: 6'
WT: 202 Pounds
BF%: About 18%

Here it is.

doses are very low...I think the duration for the long esters is not long enough to be very effective in my opinion.

What's your diet and training routine look like?

 

[Marco Brolo]

With it being your first I would drop everything and run a test only cycle. Also up your test to 500mg week and for at least 12 weeks with test e.

 

[FrankZane88]

doses are very low...I think the duration for the long esters is not long enough to be very effective in my opinion.

What's your diet and training routine look like?

I think the perfect time will be 12 weeks for Testo+Bolde but I don´t want to do that because I haven´t enough time to complete it. About the doses, it is my first cycle that is why I am a bit afraid about the quantities.

I am training 4 -5 times per day working out a different group of muscle every day sometimes I train Biceps+ 2 legs exercise for example. Quite classic training.

I am following an standard volume diet. 2gr protein per pound + carbos. 6 meals a day.

I have been training for almost 8 years with some breaks due to change of residences or personal circumstances. I have never lose the shape.

Working out property and following a diet around 1 year or something like that. But for me nowadays it is impossible to gain muscle without gaining a lot of fats.

 

[FrankZane88]

With it being your first I would drop everything and run a test only cycle. Also up your test to 500mg week and for at least 12 weeks with test e.

I was thinking on it too . I ve read that it is recommended starting just with Testo. But I have a couple of questions.

- How it would be the post cycle with this mono-cycle
- How much definition can you get with a proper diet with a Testo cycle.

Anyway I would like that you will evaluate my proposal too. It can helpme in the future an another users too. Thanks

 

[Wunderpus]

You would be very disappointed by this cycle. I would run 500mg's of test. enan. for 12 weeks, there's a set of reasons people do this for a first cycle....

EQ needs to be run ~20 or so weeks. Also you won't get much in terms of "mass" added from EQ.

Drop the proviron.

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

With it being your first I would drop everything and run a test only cycle. Also up your test to 500mg week and for at least 12 weeks with test e.

this.

gains will depend on your diet and training OP. Make your first one worthwhile and eat like a horse.

 

[Wunderpus]

If you only want to run 8 weeks, I would do test prop ONLY.

 

[Marco Brolo]

I was thinking on it too . I ve read that it is recommended starting just with Testo. But I have a couple of questions.

- How it would be the post cycle with this mono-cycle
- How much definition can you get with a proper diet with a Testo cycle.

Anyway I would like that you will evaluate my proposal too. It can helpme in the future an another users too. Thanks

You would just need a standard pct. Start it 2 weeks after last pin.
As for definition, it all depends on diet.

 

[FrankZane88]

You would be very disappointed by this cycle. I would run 500mg's of test. enan. for 12 weeks, there's a set of reasons people do this for a first cycle....

EQ needs to be run ~20 or so weeks. Also you won't get much in terms of "mass" added from EQ.

Drop the proviron.

Why would you drop the Proviron ?

 

[Wunderpus]

You would just need a standard pct. Start it 2 weeks after last pin.
As for definition, it all depends on diet.

This guy wants a "cookie cutter"/ generic answer for how "yoked" he's gonna get in 8 weeks of a poorly designed cycle....

OP, do you have any pre cycle pics? I'd like to see what we're working with here.

The reason you only run test, well the main reason, is to get a feel for being on cycle is like. If you add 3 unknown compounds you will be unsure as to where the positive and negatives effects are coming from. Also, in a sense, you will learn to become dependent on the drugs and continue to add more compounds and MGs rather than becoming more of a jedi in the gym and kitchen. I've seen it countless times, don't be that guy.

 

[Wunderpus]

Why would you drop the Proviron ?

Because it won't do anything for you. Some "research" shows it can temporarily effect the SHBG, but it really doesn't do much for most users for more than 2 weeks. The most you'd see is an increase in libido anyway, and you're on your first cycle..... Libido should be sky high or we have other issues than a lack of proviron.

 

[FrankZane88]

this.

gains will depend on your diet and training OP. Make your first one worthwhile and eat like a horse.

I am eating a lot mate , My weigh was higher a month ago I was eating more quantity in every meal but I was getting fat instead of winning muscle. That is why I decided to eat a bit less.

 

[FrankZane88]

This guy wants a "cookie cutter"/ generic answer for how "yoked" he's gonna get in 8 weeks of a poorly designed cycle....

OP, do you have any pre cycle pics? I'd like to see what we're working with here.

The reason you only run test, well the main reason, is to get a feel for being on cycle is like. If you add 3 unknown compounds you will be unsure as to where the positive and negatives effects are coming from. Also, in a sense, you will learn to become dependent on the drugs and continue to add more compounds and MGs rather than becoming more of a jedi in the gym and kitchen. I've seen it countless times, don't be that guy.

I take you advise. I will try to take some pics.

 

[Eman45]

I have to agree with wunderpus. I would up test to 12 weeks. 500mg. Drop priv and eq. I would up the var 40-60mg 6-8 weeks. Looks as you more or less want to lean up instead of bulk which would be a good ideas considering ur bf%. I would work on cutting down then putting good weight back on. If you start putting on weight now n eat a lot most likely you will still put on some extra body fat. Def good ideas to take before pics. After all you working against your self.

 

[FrankZane88]

Thanks a lot for your help. Finally I have decided to follow you advises and start with a Testo cycle 500mg a week during 12 weeks.
Weeks 1-12: Test E 500 mg every week split into 2 shots..
Weeks 2-12: .25 mg EOD of arimidex.

pct: Will begin 2 weeks after last pin
clomid: 100/100/50/50
nolva: 40/40/20/20

I took this information from this thread First Test E cycle

From the cycle that I posted here I have learned that the doses were so low and the cycle has to be at least 12 weeks.

I would like to ask you one more thing , when should I take the pics, at morning after getting up or after training.

Thanks.

 

[Eman45]

Doesn't matter sooner than later tho.