I do want to get the hematocrit down, and the E2 also. Thats what i reduced the test. I am also going to start drinking more water and doing more frequent injections. Blood work in two or so weeks, and I'll reevaluate and go from there. Thanks for the comments.
MESO-Rx
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For those of you who don't want to to run more than TRT testosterone levels, how do you cycle?
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I do want to get the hematocrit down, and the E2 also. Thats what i reduced the test. I am also going to start drinking more water and doing more frequent injections. Blood work in two or so weeks, and I'll reevaluate and go from there. Thanks for the comments.
Duraclear
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I agree with you that I would rather not add additional drugs into the mix unless necessary, but I am really sold on Telmisartan. I take between 20-40 mgs per day by "feel," which I know isn't scientific at all, but so far it has been effective in keep side effects at bay without elevating potassium levels.
I always keep my test low because test is boring and too much makes me blocky as hell. So that pretty much rules out primo and EQ for me unless I run a baby dose of either.
I prefer more exotic compounds and usually keep mast in the mix. Usually have NPP in my blast also. Test usually stays under 300mg. Ment, tren, DHB, Halo….these are a few of my favorite things.
I prefer more exotic compounds and usually keep mast in the mix. Usually have NPP in my blast also. Test usually stays under 300mg. Ment, tren, DHB, Halo….these are a few of my favorite things.
I started introducing Anavar again preworkout at 10mg on top of my 100mg test cyp weekly base. Maybe placebo but I definitely had better pumps and more stamina. I used this on my last prep and it just feels clean. I have started an open ended soft prep with no target (the target will be when I feel ready no pressure) so I am going to use the var and then slowly introduce NPP at 10mg per day next week and 2-3 IU of GH. If the NPP comes in and just feel right I will start taking it up to 20/30/40 mg per day.
Duraclear
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I forgot to mention Turinabol in the list of compounds I've experimented with. I've actually run three cycles with it over the past 20 years. Very interesting compound that I think could have potential for guys like us.
I ran 20mgs per day. Looking at my bloodwork records, it looks like it boosted free test by up to 80%. I would need to look it up, but I believe that occurs because it preferentially binds to SHBG and also suppresses it somewhat. Of course, it elevates liver values. Longest I've run it was 12 weeks, which is probably about 4 weeks too long. My liver values were not insane, but high enough that my doctor was concerned.
It is quite effective in a surplus. I got strong as an ox, but it was a steady progression over the course of the cycle. Definitely put on some lean, quality size, but nothing crazy. Zero noticeable water retention, etc. Turinabol itself does not aromatize or interact with 5-a reductase, but of course, some of that extra free testosterone will.
I ran it once in a defecit, and it is useful, but doesn't give any aesthetic effects. I feel that Anavar is far superior in this role for many reasons.
Having said that, I am not sure if I would personally run it again in light of my health issues. My days of bulking and chasing PRs are over. But it is a very interesting compound that others may be able to work into their program.
I ran 20mgs per day. Looking at my bloodwork records, it looks like it boosted free test by up to 80%. I would need to look it up, but I believe that occurs because it preferentially binds to SHBG and also suppresses it somewhat. Of course, it elevates liver values. Longest I've run it was 12 weeks, which is probably about 4 weeks too long. My liver values were not insane, but high enough that my doctor was concerned.
It is quite effective in a surplus. I got strong as an ox, but it was a steady progression over the course of the cycle. Definitely put on some lean, quality size, but nothing crazy. Zero noticeable water retention, etc. Turinabol itself does not aromatize or interact with 5-a reductase, but of course, some of that extra free testosterone will.
I ran it once in a defecit, and it is useful, but doesn't give any aesthetic effects. I feel that Anavar is far superior in this role for many reasons.
Having said that, I am not sure if I would personally run it again in light of my health issues. My days of bulking and chasing PRs are over. But it is a very interesting compound that others may be able to work into their program.
Introduced 10mg of NPP yesterday after a bit over a week of running 10mg of anavar on top of my weekly 100mg of testosterone. I am using Stan's NPP. Always amazes me how smooth and painless his stuff is. Always like butter for me. Interesting I tossed and turned a bit last night. Every time I introduce a new injectable I am worried about it affecting my sleep so it was self fulfilling probably. I have used Deca from a real pharmacy in the past and don't recall having issues. Let's see how it goes.
jpe1
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Thanks for update. Will be interested to see how this plays out for you.
So I am a week in from starting the NPP at 10mg per day and it just amazes me how well I react to this compound. I have been soft prepping for 2 weeks and I am down 3 pounds but my strength is starting to explode. I never loved a ton of test it just doesnt seem to work but these anabolics like nandrolone especially I just respond to so well. That and dianabol. Reminder I am on 100mg of test cyp, 10mg of NPP per day which I am going to take up soon and 10mg var pre workout. I know there is this big battle on social media about high test and low test (I am a 44 year old man not trying to step on Olympia stage just win my men's physique class at a local NPC show) but I am hopeful to get this cycle to work and hopefully get up to 30-40mg of NPP per day. I have stopped getting good overnight wood which sucks. It was super consistent on 100mg of test and maintenance cals. Could be bc I am in a deficit could be a week on NPP who knows. I cam still function fine tho.
Jackedjack8273648
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For how long will you stay on var 10mg pre workout?
I don't know I don't have a good plan but probably once the nandrolone goes way up. My last prep I used Winstrol at the end 25mg per day for 3 weeks. I think I can get away with 10-14 days it really really works for the look IMO so I would rather drop the var sooner than later so I have time off of orals.
The nandrolone is definitely hitting my boners. Still works but it's starting to feel like a fight LOL. I am more chill too probably bc I am not thinking about sex 24/7.
Amazingly out of everything I have ever done, the best functioning and best sex drive I have is when I eat normally and use 100mg of test cyp per week along w/500 HCG 2x per week. I am horny as goat.
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