Freak status... why diet?

inkandmuscle

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Just looking for some opinions on this subject guys...
If you're aim is to be freak status say 260+ is there really any point to dieting off and on along the way?

To me this seems counter-productive.

Say you started off at 200lbs and begin eating in such a surpluss to merit eventualy weighing 220lbs... Yes obviously you would put on muscle AND fat eating such a dramatic surpluss...
now fast forward you're 220 lbs and your weight gain has tapered off, Now based on what your diet consists of wouldnt it make sense that if your macros, traning and rest is in check whilst eating to maintain your weight gain wouldnt the composition of the weight gained shift in favor of a better body composition??

Then shifting cals up again say to reach 240lbs and repeating the process... does this make sense to anybody or is my idea flawed??
someone shed a light
 
I personally think your better off keeping lean the whole time I've been up to 270 at 24%bf you look huge in a hoodie and ts but really your a bloated mess. This is my opinion I am now dieting down till I get to 11% and then cleanly bulk but not let myself get passed 16%bf you can see your muscle groups grow and see you body changing, I reckon I'm loosing a lot of muscle while cutting. It puts huge stress on your body blowing up and shrinking down I think the best way to get bigger is to keep reins on your bf, as soon as you loose sight of your top abs stop bulking go on a short cutting cycle then bulk again. I hate cutting tbh I prefer to look like a bull than a men's health cover model... But it's definitely not healthy and it's uncomfortable to walk around carrying extra fat. I think for your general gym rat keeping as lean as possible is the way forward.
 
bulking does not have to mean getting fat. you can pack on muscle without getting fat. I would not diet unless you get fat. which you should not get fat if you are eating right.
 
I am a big fan of recomping like you mentioned in the OP but I don't think its effective when we are talking about weight differences as drastic as 20lbs.

If you gain 5-10lbs then recomp until you lean out a little bit then yes it is a very effective tool, but if you are gaining in 20lb intervals and than recomping you may as well cut down because there is no way in hell most of that 20lbs was LBM...maybe only 3-5lbs, and I would say that is the upper limit for someone passed their genetic potential.

However keep in mind how many guys do you see walking around who are 240-260lbs ripped? Alternatively how many guys who have been cycling for 20+ years have anywhere near that musculature? Very few people, unless their bodyfat is on the higher side, in which case they may as well diet down.
 
I tried that ride, gaining 85lbs and no real cut phases. I did pause at times but I can tell you going straight up made me eventually feel like shit health wise. Not to mention gaining weight quickly like that made me one clumsy mother fucker bumping in to everything since I didn't really know my body well for that size.

If I could rewind time and do it again I would go up slow trying to keep a decent bodyfat rather then a super bulk. Granted at the time it was basically eat like a pig to gain weight.
 
I tried that ride, gaining 85lbs and no real cut phases. I did pause at times but I can tell you going straight up made me eventually feel like shit health wise. Not to mention gaining weight quickly like that made me one clumsy mother fucker bumping in to everything since I didn't really know my body well for that size.

If I could rewind time and do it again I would go up slow trying to keep a decent bodyfat rather then a super bulk. Granted at the time it was basically eat like a pig to gain weight.

Agreed, first cycle just ate everything in sight and got up to 230 but was close to 20% and looked big in sweaters and loose clothes. But anything else I looked like a blob. Then when I came off I had to cut to lose the fat/water and lost all my size and it played with my head, it was depressing seeing all that work disappearing! Now my motto is if I can't see my abs, I will recomp. It's not a race to a goal weight anymore, more so looking good all the way there:cool:
 
This is why I think you should not continually bulk, I read this article a long time ago and I know put it in place after every comp, I can tell you for me it works, not only that but being lean presents less side effects from compounds we might choose to use. I hope you find it interesting, enjoy.

The prime is a very valuable tool to have for any cycle- This process creates a very anabolic environment so muscle tissue can grow at a fast rate when you start a cycle, there are plenty of ways this process can be done, When the prime is done correctly you will not believe how quickly the muscle gains come on straight from the start of any cycle,

In simple terms you simply diet down slowly, just like you do before a comp but a lot more slowly, the main objective isn't to lose bf but to create this special environment a lot of BB's who have done comps will understand this process and how much can be obtained at this special stage, Dorian was a big believer in this process and would be straight back into the gym after big shows taking advantage of this valuable stage.

I have tried many different ways with my own body to find out which one suits me better and i prefer to cycle my carbs 3 low 1 high, this will create a very anabolic environment for muscle tissue to grow, the muscle receptors get highly excitable and upgrade and able to accept more glucose and because glucose levels are not full in the muscle the result is more deposited into the muscle when you start the cycle and increase the food, this environment builds muscle tissue very quickly, if this is done correctly and timed right when you start the cycle, growth is amazing, i feel priming is a must when considering any cycle but it does work and is ideal towards short cycling.

With the carb prime rotation process i follow 3 days low carbs(40% less than normal) 1 day high (15% higher than normal) You must have a basic stable diet which you have ran for a few weeks before doing such a process, i feel this isn't to harsh on your muscle tissue and the 1 high carb day offsets any potential metabolic slowdown, which is extremely useful in laying down metabolic boosting muscle or at least saving it. if this process is not done right you will lose muscle tissue so careful planning is needed to hold on to all the muscle gains and only fat loss and putting your body into the correct environment is achieved, when any kind of priming is done an increase in protein/aminos acids will help to maintain the current muscle tissue, also GH would benefit in helping this process, the high carb/low carb rotational prime diet also upgrades the receptors cites on muscle tissue for insulin , this changes the body's ability to store carbs as glycogen in muscle tissue rather than fat. The priming works far better if its done over a longer period of time, your after burning unwanted body fat and maintaining muscle tissue and a slow reduction in carbs towards the cycle start, will create an ideal environment for huge muscle gains. Also the last 5 days to the run up to the start of the cycle should be low carbs (40%).

Another way of priming is the slow reduction of carbs within your diet over 6-8 weeks or longer, make sure protein is increased in any of the priming methods so muscle loss is stopped or at least kept to a minimum, when ever the prime is done it creates an environment for muscle tissue to grow very quickly so when you do start your cycle all this coupled with a AAS and all the other compounds you use and the increase in food intake makes this an ideal environment for muscle tissue to grow and huge tissue gains are experienced.

The idea is to create an environment, and you simple take advantage of the condition and use it to spring board into a cycle, there are certain things what must be in place so you don't receive muscle tissue loss before the cycle but when its done correctly the gains are amazing, its a excellent tool to have on any cycle. I feel a lot of newbies think that AAS is the whole key to building the perfect body but its not, its just one tool for the job there are many other things what come into play to help the process of building muscle and priming is one of them.
 
With me last few times I bulked was post contest. First one I was 202lb on stage. Blew up to 235 or so after like 2 months but just recomp from there, ended up fairly lean for offseason 240lb before dieting for next comp. next comp I was 220 lb onstage but was like 228 before drying out. Sitting at 255 now comp was October been around same weight since december just been gradually recomping. I'm an endomorph I get chunky easy so it's easier for me then staying lean whole time
 
This is why I think you should not continually bulk, I read this article a long time ago and I know put it in place after every comp, I can tell you for me it works, not only that but being lean presents less side effects from compounds we might choose to use. I hope you find it interesting, enjoy.

The prime is a very valuable tool to have for any cycle- This process creates a very anabolic environment so muscle tissue can grow at a fast rate when you start a cycle, there are plenty of ways this process can be done, When the prime is done correctly you will not believe how quickly the muscle gains come on straight from the start of any cycle,

In simple terms you simply diet down slowly, just like you do before a comp but a lot more slowly, the main objective isn't to lose bf but to create this special environment a lot of BB's who have done comps will understand this process and how much can be obtained at this special stage, Dorian was a big believer in this process and would be straight back into the gym after big shows taking advantage of this valuable stage.

I have tried many different ways with my own body to find out which one suits me better and i prefer to cycle my carbs 3 low 1 high, this will create a very anabolic environment for muscle tissue to grow, the muscle receptors get highly excitable and upgrade and able to accept more glucose and because glucose levels are not full in the muscle the result is more deposited into the muscle when you start the cycle and increase the food, this environment builds muscle tissue very quickly, if this is done correctly and timed right when you start the cycle, growth is amazing, i feel priming is a must when considering any cycle but it does work and is ideal towards short cycling.

With the carb prime rotation process i follow 3 days low carbs(40% less than normal) 1 day high (15% higher than normal) You must have a basic stable diet which you have ran for a few weeks before doing such a process, i feel this isn't to harsh on your muscle tissue and the 1 high carb day offsets any potential metabolic slowdown, which is extremely useful in laying down metabolic boosting muscle or at least saving it. if this process is not done right you will lose muscle tissue so careful planning is needed to hold on to all the muscle gains and only fat loss and putting your body into the correct environment is achieved, when any kind of priming is done an increase in protein/aminos acids will help to maintain the current muscle tissue, also GH would benefit in helping this process, the high carb/low carb rotational prime diet also upgrades the receptors cites on muscle tissue for insulin , this changes the body's ability to store carbs as glycogen in muscle tissue rather than fat. The priming works far better if its done over a longer period of time, your after burning unwanted body fat and maintaining muscle tissue and a slow reduction in carbs towards the cycle start, will create an ideal environment for huge muscle gains. Also the last 5 days to the run up to the start of the cycle should be low carbs (40%).

Another way of priming is the slow reduction of carbs within your diet over 6-8 weeks or longer, make sure protein is increased in any of the priming methods so muscle loss is stopped or at least kept to a minimum, when ever the prime is done it creates an environment for muscle tissue to grow very quickly so when you do start your cycle all this coupled with a AAS and all the other compounds you use and the increase in food intake makes this an ideal environment for muscle tissue to grow and huge tissue gains are experienced.

The idea is to create an environment, and you simple take advantage of the condition and use it to spring board into a cycle, there are certain things what must be in place so you don't receive muscle tissue loss before the cycle but when its done correctly the gains are amazing, its a excellent tool to have on any cycle. I feel a lot of newbies think that AAS is the whole key to building the perfect body but its not, its just one tool for the job there are many other things what come into play to help the process of building muscle and priming is one of them.

I know the gentleman very well that wrote this, I believe in it and utilize it. The nutritional prime is a valuable tool that is vastly underutilized. Glad you shared this here.
 
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