Friends Blood Work underdosed?

[Clappincheeks]

My buddy’s taking the follow weekly injections:

Test E 550mgs
Sustanon 300mgs
Npp 300mgs

Do you think the gear is under dosed?

 

[mochul]

Maybe not. Depends on how long is between when the sample is taken and last shot. But why two ester?
Who is the vendor?

 

[Clappincheeks]

recent blood work was 1 month later. I’m not sure why he’s doing 2 different esters, it’s just what he’s currently taking.

The vendor isn’t from meso.

 

[buck]

Without knowing injection schedule and how long since the last shot. I would say the results were likely accurate.

 

[-Maui-]

Maybe not. Depends on how long is between when the sample is taken and last shot. But why two ester?
Who is the vendor?

Only two? ))
Looks like five!

recent blood work was 1 month later

Its looks like under dosed drug. Sorry.

 

[-Maui-]

Without knowing injection schedule and how long since the last shot. I would say the results were likely accurate.

850mg of Testosterone. 4 weeks.
Even if it's six days after the injection... (6 ml???)
Should be more. My opinion.

 

[Clappincheeks]

850mg of Testosterone. 4 weeks.
Even if it's six days after the injection... (6 ml???)
Should be more. My opinion.

he took bloods in June 2023 then 3 weeks prior to the bloods done in Oct he started this cycle. He went in on a Monday and did bloods. Last injection was a Thursday and pinning schedule is:

Monday/Thursday test e .8 CC sustanon .7 CC npp 1CC
Saturday 1cc npp

 

[Isrrike]

Your bloodwork could be capped at a certain number it may be higher than that. By the way this isn’t blue light you don’t have to use that swim bullshit

 

[Clappincheeks]

Your bloodwork could be capped at a certain number it may be higher than that. By the way this isn’t blue light you don’t have to use that swim bullshit

this test isn't capped

 

[petefox]

Perhaps that's just how he metabolizes test, regardless of having 5 esters in him.

Not knowing SHBG or LH/FSH kind of leaves answers on the table. Was he going for Dallas-levels?

 

[Deleted member 127229]

Perhaps that's just how he metabolizes test, regardless of having 5 esters in him.

Not knowing SHBG or LH/FSH kind of leaves answers on the table. Was he going for Dallas-levels?

Dallas's test wasn't MS so it picked up the 19nor he was on, That's why it was something like 55,000ng. Pretty common mistake by the coroner's office. The generally don't test for hormones in autopsies. I've never seen a Testosterone MS test that wasn't capped at 10,000ng

 

[Frozen]

looks decent to me, I sit in the 4k area on about a gram of test. @-Maui- check my posted labs and pictures. You think my test is fake too?? thats a BS answer you’re giving this guy with nothing to back your story.

For the original poster, clappingcheeks, you’re going to lose your conversion rate as you get into higher doses from personal experience. But if he truly is questioning his source, easy fix, go with a trusted source, there’s plenty around

 

[-Maui-]

You think my test is fake too?? thats a BS answer you’re giving this guy with nothing to back your story.

Here's the story.
850mg of testosterone minus the mass of esters is about 700mg of test per week, when the equilibrium concentration is reached.
The male body produces about 10mg of testosterone per day, which gives us 600-800 nmol/L.
So, We inject about 10 times that amount, which means about 100mg is released per day, on average. The tests should reflect that somehow, shouldn't they?
And yes, it correlates with the assays on TRT, where an average weekly dosage of 100mg including the mass of ester gives the physiological norm of testosterone in serum.

О! And I got graphs for you!
50mg and 100mg TE a week, 6 weeks:


250mg TE once:


All this BS called science.

 

[readalot]

600-800 nmol/L.

600 -800 ng/dl


Come over to my dose response thread. We will have some fun.

Tool to Assess your TT dose response --Percentile Curves

Continuing the dose response thread over here. This would be a great place to crowdsource data. https://forums.t-nation.com/t/tool-to-assess-your-tt-dose-response-percentile-curves/277628 https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/readalot-aka-tareload-introduction.134419973/post-3171563 I...

thinksteroids.com

FYI OP check out the graphical tools over there.

 

[readalot]

Not getting much response at Meso yet but patience is a virtue. Looking for all you mass monsters to share your LCMS TT plus FT by equilibrium dialysis data for 1 to 3 g per week of test ester (TC or TE).

Enjoy.

 

[Clappincheeks]

Here's the story.
850mg of testosterone minus the mass of esters is about 700mg of test per week, when the equilibrium concentration is reached.
The male body produces about 10mg of testosterone per day, which gives us 600-800 nmol/L.
So, We inject about 10 times that amount, which means about 100mg is released per day, on average. The tests should reflect that somehow, shouldn't they?
And yes, it correlates with the assays on TRT, where an average weekly dosage of 100mg including the mass of ester gives the physiological norm of testosterone in serum.

О! And I got graphs for you!
50mg and 100mg TE a week, 6 weeks:
View attachment 267888

250mg TE once:
View attachment 267889

All this BS called science.

these graphs are based on TRT

 

[readalot]

 

[-Maui-]

600 -800 ng/dl

My mistake!
Recalculated the units for MESO, but didn't change their name.

Come over to my dose response thread. We will have some fun.

Sounds great! I'm in!

 

[Frozen]

These graphs are BS in the form of what we are doing my friend.

These mass monsters aren’t using
“LCMS TT plus FT by equilibrium dialysis data”

They’re doing the same shit over and over and over and over again, eat, sleep, train, drugs, repeat

 

[readalot]

These graphs are BS in the form of what we are doing my friend.

These mass monsters aren’t using
“LCMS TT plus FT by equilibrium dialysis data”

They’re doing the same shit over and over and over and over again, eat, sleep, train, drugs, repeat

Thanks for that. Insightful. Perhaps I will find one. You never know.

I run into this alot LMFAO.

“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”

- Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher