From trt to 1st cycle

[tyriekfv]

[laikang Peptide] TREN Ace [ Jan 8th 2026] Doing 3 week titration 50mg, 75mg, 100mg final
[WWB] MASTERON 200mg (test reports show 249mg) [Oct 2025] 249mg per week to begin will titrate to 350mg if labs are good at week 8
Test Cyp 200mg/ml PRESCRIBED will titrate up to 300 if labs are good at week 4

My goal is a lean bulk hopefully continuing my bf drop to about 12% and final weight to 200-210 I'm 5'10

I will begin on feb 16th. Baseline before cycle labs will be run feb 14th. My current test level is at ~1246 free 31.8 igf1 339 a1c 5 cholesterol 188 E2 was 46 before the hcg which I've been on for 3 weeks and labs were ran today to check new E2, test, LH/FSH levels. I've been running labs consistently once a month from the start of trt with anabolicinsights and those required by my pcp.

I began my journey in Sept at 270 pounds and 36% bf. And 49 years of age. My wife and I had just had our son in May and I said enough was enough. I am already old, I want to be fit and agile to coach my son in sports and keep up with my younger wife. And why not get back in shape for me too? I started with a full physical and hormone wellness check. A1c 5.6 cholesterol 210, test 240. Very fuckin bad. Today I stand at 225 16.5% bf on 120mg trt dose and 500iu 3x week hcg. 2iu daily hgh Reta , mots c, tb500 bpc 157. I can't say it's been easy, but it's been fun! I know I should wait until I reach a lower bf, but tbh my diet is pretty dialed. My training is pretty dialed. Mwf weights, cardio 5x a week. I'm ready. Wish me luck?

 

[Duplo]

First cycle, 3 compounds?

Start simple..

 

[Athleticfreak]

[laikang Peptide] TREN Ace [ Jan 8th 2026] Doing 3 week titration 50mg, 75mg, 100mg final
[WWB] MASTERON 200mg (test reports show 249mg) [Oct 2025] 249mg per week to begin will titrate to 350mg if labs are good at week 8
Test Cyp 200mg/ml PRESCRIBED will titrate up to 300 if labs are good at week 4

My goal is a lean bulk hopefully continuing my bf drop to about 12% and final weight to 200-210 I'm 5'10

I will begin on feb 16th. Baseline before cycle labs will be run feb 14th. My current test level is at ~1246 free 31.8 igf1 339 a1c 5 cholesterol 188 E2 was 46 before the hcg which I've been on for 3 weeks and labs were ran today to check new E2, test, LH/FSH levels. I've been running labs consistently once a month from the start of trt with anabolicinsights and those required by my pcp.

I began my journey in Sept at 270 pounds and 36% bf. And 49 years of age. My wife and I had just had our son in May and I said enough was enough. I am already old, I want to be fit and agile to coach my son in sports and keep up with my younger wife. And why not get back in shape for me too? I started with a full physical and hormone wellness check. A1c 5.6 cholesterol 210, test 240. Very fuckin bad. Today I stand at 225 16.5% bf on 120mg trt dose and 500iu 3x week hcg. 2iu daily hgh Reta , mots c, tb500 bpc 157. I can't say it's been easy, but it's been fun! I know I should wait until I reach a lower bf, but tbh my diet is pretty dialed. My training is pretty dialed. Mwf weights, cardio 5x a week. I'm ready. Wish me luck?

Is the right picture you’re saying you’re at 225lbs and 16bf %

Also completely agree with previous post, get rid of Tren and Mast for your first ever cycle. Actually you should only be doing 200-250mgs test cyp tops if your current physique is the one top right.

Read up in here. Lots of valuable information.

 

[BigDadd7]

Why?

 

[tyriekfv]

First cycle, 3 compounds?

Start simpl

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Why not?

 

[hellerhiwater]

Why not?

there's a few reasons ive seen kicked around, but imo the biggest and best reason is to be able to identify issues or side effects.

if you up the test dose to "beyond natural" doses for the first time, and it gives you severe acne or maybe very high BP, if you did that at the same time as introducing two other compounds for the first time how do you know which to adjust or take out to correct the course?

add one compound at a time and ride it for a few weeks to gauge your response to it.

another reason ive seen is that you are super sensitive to androgens when doing a first cycle, and many can get a lot out of high testosterone only. so if you can get x amount out of a relatively safe bioidentical hormone, why not ride that as far as you can before adding in harsher, more foreign compounds?

you will likely never find anyone on meso to agree with or get behind the idea of any amt of tren on a first cycle. the stuff is so toxic and insane, ppl tend to preach against it heavy. to my eyes, it seems warranted. its been called divorce in a bottle by many...just something to keep in mind.

 

[tyriekfv]

This

there's a few reasons ive seen kicked around, but imo the biggest and best reason is to be able to identify issues or side effects.

if you up the test dose to "beyond natural" doses for the first time, and it gives you severe acne or maybe very high BP, if you did that at the same time as introducing two other compounds for the first time how do you know which to adjust or take out to correct the course?

add one compound at a time and ride it for a few weeks to gauge your response to it.

another reason ive seen is that you are super sensitive to androgens when doing a first cycle, and many can get a lot out of high testosterone only. so if you can get x amount out of a relatively safe bioidentical hormone, why not ride that as far as you can before adding in harsher, more foreign compounds?

you will likely never find anyone on meso to agree with or get behind the idea of any amt of tren on a first cycle. the stuff is so toxic and insane, ppl tend to preach against it heavy. to my eyes, it seems warranted. its been called divorce in a bottle by many...just something to keep in mind.

This I can get behind and understand your reasoning. It's why I've done 2 things. Starting low and using an Ace ether. If I'm not feeling it, and by that I mean handling it well, I'm just dropping it. I only have 1 vial of 100mg for this reason. I hear all the negative all the time. But I like my lessons learned the hard way. . But, once again, I'm not married to it and I don't have an addictive personality. Don't drink, don't smoke, don't do drugs. Never have. YOLO at 50 sounds insane, but at this point I have more behind than in front. Gotta live and love whats left.

 

[tyriekfv]

Ancillaries are:
Telmisartan
Nebivolol
Ezetimibe
Pita
Fish oil
Multi
Vit D k2
Zinc
Tudca
Nac
P5p
Citrus berg
Citrulline
Caritine
Naringin
Cialis
Peptides:
Reta
Motsc
Bpc157 / tb500
Hgh
Hcg

 

[tyriekfv]

Is the right picture you’re saying you’re at 225lbs and 16bf %

Also completely agree with previous post, get rid of Tren and Mast for your first ever cycle. Actually you should only be doing 200-250mgs test cyp tops if your current physique is the one top right.

Read up in here. Lots of valuable information.

Yes 228 16%

 

[tyriekfv]

A few images to show Im being real about my numbers. I have a health coach and take scale pics, now hume pics mostly once a week on Sundays. Here's the latest. The weight here shows 233. But im in a refeed week. But still clean so bf is still decreasing.

 

[hellerhiwater]

I like my lessons learned the hard way.

You’re in the company of many newcomers to the world of PEDs with this idea. Granted a lot of them are 30 years younger than you, but it’s a common sentiment.

A hard lesson with test might be gyno, water balloon bloating, or 2 weeks of ED.

A hard lesson with tren could be a life-altering criminal charge, permanent kidney damage, idk. Just seems like the one of the worst options for getting a hard lesson.

Have you ever tried any other 19-nors? Why not start with a similarly doses regimen of NPP just to gauge your response to that class of hormone?

I am a bit tired so excuse me if it’s in the thread and I just missed it, but you absolutely need the in-depth kidney and liver blood panels done before trying tren at your age. As well as a whole host of other markers that i don’t have on the top of my head, but that are readily available all over the thread.

just be careful, smart, and patient. You had the discipline and patience to lose all that weight, give yourself the future you deserve by being patient one more time and listening to some of the input you’re getting here.

Disclaimer: I have never cycled, done tren, nor am I experienced with any PED: I am simply regurgitating information I’ve read here and other places—mixed with a little common sense.