Furiouswo's quest to get big

[Docd187123]

If your tren is good, you might gain some small amount of fat but your body composition will still look markedly better IMO. On tren I was eating 4000cals and losing weight. At 4500cals I maintained my weight. And at 4700cals plus an extra 2000cals at 2am from ice cream, cereal, and PBnJ I was gaining a few pounds but still looking better than before. All in all it was a hell of a ride and worth it

 

[FuriousWO]

I haven't even mentioned the Sunday re-feed of 6-7000 calories lol

 

[Docd187123]

And for reference I am 5'10" started off at 198lbs, went down to 189lbs and back up to 196 for a final weight but a MUCH MUCH better 196 lol.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Full hormonal panel with igf included is $120.

Privatemdlabs? What's the name of the that test? I haven't seen it..

 

[Docd187123]

I haven't even mentioned the Sunday re-feed of 6-7000 calories lol

I may have missed this but are you bulking? If so you don't need the refeed for physiological down regulation of metabolism hormones like you would on a cut but it can help you get some cals at the end of the week if you missed some earlier in the week or you want to load up on carbs for a good workout lol

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Had a full workup it's on page 3, I think. IGF level was 203. So 400 will be kick ass!

I think the GH will help shed any fat I may accumulate and also increase the efficiency of processing of food. Couple that with the fina and I think I'll be golden. This is a bulk and I'm going to gain some fat but I can cut that off later, just don't want to get excessive fat. I can dial it back if it becomes a problem. Trust me coming from "fatassery" I'm paranoid of body fat, I'll keep an eye on it.

You may gain a little fat the first few weeks but once the fina hits full stride it should eat it up.

 

[hotdog23]

Privatemdlabs? What's the name of the that test? I haven't seen it..

@CeymoreButtz ?

Full hormonal panel is what I thought but maybe not the name. And yes privatemd had it couple months ago I know

 

[hotdog23]

I haven't even mentioned the Sunday re-feed of 6-7000 calories lol

Workin on this right now! Jimmy John where u at bruh?!

 

[FuriousWO]

I may have missed this but are you bulking? If so you don't need the refeed for physiological down regulation of metabolism hormones like you would on a cut but it can help you get some cals at the end of the week if you missed some earlier in the week or you want to load up on carbs for a good workout lol

It's a bulk but Sunday I'm just going to eat, not with reckless abandon, but to get in extra calories. I shouldn't miss many the rest of the week. I've been practicing eating and regularly hitting 4500-5000. You think it's not needed to get in extra once a week?

 

[rigs03]

As I understand it with the real deal (not generics) I can gain mass at 4iu ed. With generics 6-8iu is required. At least this is the advice I've received from a few members that have experience with both. I'm a GH noob completely unless you count so bunk shit from Astro last year [emoji17] so I asked for a lot of advice on this part. Way to expensive to fuck around with it.

Okay cool yea man I'm still learning too. Are you taking any peptides along with it?

 

[OdieM]

Yep eat up while you can and put it on. Once the FINA hits it becomes a chore to eat and your calories will go down. That's ok though you'll harden up. For me it's a balancing act. I hardly ever get the same calories in I did the day before. Sometimes more, sometimes less. If I see unwanted weight then I clean it up for a few days. I gained 75% of my weight the first 3-4 weeks for the record. Now I'm at a crawl.

 

[rigs03]

It's a bulk but Sunday I'm just going to eat, not with reckless abandon, but to get in extra calories. I shouldn't miss many the rest of the week. I've been practicing eating and regularly hitting 4500-5000. You think it's not needed to get in extra once a week?

Not necessary but obviously won't hurt especially w the tren and gh you'll stay lean I'm sure!

I've actually found myself doing almost the opposite . Tracking cals and worrying about stuffing my face as the clock ticks down before bed every day can take a mental toll on me. I a started to just eat whatever (within reason) and not worried about tracking it. I knew I was still over maintenance so wasn't hurting the bulk overall but gives a little break from that uncomfortably full feeling.

 

[Docd187123]

It's a bulk but Sunday I'm just going to eat, not with reckless abandon, but to get in extra calories. I shouldn't miss many the rest of the week. I've been practicing eating and regularly hitting 4500-5000. You think it's not needed to get in extra once a week?

I see.

The whole idea behind a "true"/structured refeed is to up regulate hormones that control your appetite and metabolism that down regulate during hypocaloric times or calorie deficits. The body senses not enough energy coming in so things like leptin, ghrelin, TSH, T4/T3, peptide YY, etc all work against you to prevent much weight loss. A refeed, specifically a high carb maintenance level calories or higher refeed will reverse this. The key is the carbs but the calories are important also.

You're not going to experience this during a bulk bc you're always hypercaloric or in a calorie surplus. You may enjoy it, you may catch up on missed cals/meals, you may use it to get extra cals for the week, etc all that is fine I'm just saying it's not needed like during a cut.

 

[FuriousWO]

Okay cool yea man I'm still learning too. Are you taking any peptides along with it?

No peptides but seriously thought about it. I've read I could squeeze out an extra 4-8iu daily of natural GH pulses. The deciding factor came from reading a few successful peptide protocols, it's too much pinning and food timing way complicated. Maybe another time but now I've got enough going on.

 

[FuriousWO]

Not necessary but obviously won't hurt especially w the tren and gh you'll stay lean I'm sure!

I've actually found myself doing almost the opposite . Tracking cals and worrying about stuffing my face as the clock ticks down before bed every day can take a mental toll on me. I a started to just eat whatever (within reason) and not worried about tracking it. I knew I was still over maintenance so wasn't hurting the bulk overall but gives a little break from that uncomfortably full feeling.

Yah I was doing that too trying to slam in calories at the end of the day. It really helped to have a plan and prep the food in advance. It's simple and repeatable, plus things I like or better yet things I don't hate yet to eat

 

[FuriousWO]

Awesome night in the gym. All this consistent food is making me stronger without a doubt. My elbows have been feeling good too.
Shoulders
Db Press
35x10,
45x10x10
50x7x6

Smith mil press
70x10
90x10
110x7x6x7

Seated Db Side Lat
15x10x10
20x10x8

Cable Side Lat (FST 30-45sec rest)
15x12
10x12x12x12x11x11x12

Bent Over Db Rear Delt
25x12x12
30x10x10

Rev Cbl Xover (FST 30-45sec rest)
30x12x12x12
40x10
30x11x12x12

Traps
Shrugs 45 Plate Fail Set (3)
30
25
23

Upright Row (FST 30-45sec rest)
90x12x12x12x12
80x12x12x12

 

[CeymoreButtz]

@CeymoreButtz ?

Full hormonal panel is what I thought but maybe not the name. And yes privatemd had it couple months ago I know

Hormone Panel Unisex on Private MD Labs is what I'm thinking you are looking for. It is 152 but with discount goes to 130 something.

Description:
This panel contains the following tests:
-Lipid Panel
-Complete Blood Count (CBC) w/ Differential
-Estradiol
-Insulin Growth Factor (IGF-1)
-Comprehensive Metabolic Profile (CMP) (includes eGFR)
-Testosterone, Free (Direct) With Total Testosterone, LC/MS-MS
-Thyroid Profile

 

[FuriousWO]

For today's entry I made a photo log of my meal plan so use (thanks Alex) could all follow along with the joys of "Eat big to get big"







Also not pictured were two iced Americanos from the local coffee shop. When it's all said and done its
8 eggs
6 cups whole milk
4 scoops protein powder
12oz London broil steak
20oz chick breast
1 cup rice cooked
1/2 cup steel cut oats, measured dry then cooked
1 banana
1/2 can organic black beans rinsed well
4oz baked sweet potato
2 apples
1/2 cup natural peanut butter

 

[deepsouthiron]

Love your log bro. Keep it up

 

[rigs03]

I have never thought about cooking the oats before putting into shake. Any reason you do this? Easier to blend/mix?