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rob3412

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well, i ordered my sust/deca for my first cycle was expecting to do 500 mg a week of sust and 300 mg deca, but there was a problem with my order. should i re order? or stick wtih 250 sust a week and 300 mg deca a week . i was expecting to gain 15-20 with my current cycle, but i dont think i can gain much with what i have...? what u guys think? stick with it or wait for another order of 250 sust. als0 what could i expect to gain with what i have now on average... if i work out properly eat everything i can (good diet)
 
rob3412 said:
well, i ordered my sust/deca for my first cycle was expecting to do 500 mg a week of sust and 300 mg deca, but there was a problem with my order. should i re order? or stick wtih 250 sust a week and 300 mg deca a week . i was expecting to gain 15-20 with my current cycle, but i dont think i can gain much with what i have...? what u guys think? stick with it or wait for another order of 250 sust. als0 what could i expect to gain with what i have now on average... if i work out properly eat everything i can (good diet)

My first cycle was only 250mg Sust/wk, and I gained ~20lbs in 10 weeks. Personally, I think you would still see good results and probably gain 15-20 lbs. with what you have...if your diet is good and you bust ass. However, if you can resolve the problem w/ your order, why not wait and bump the test up? I am sure you are dying to start, but, maybe you should wait for your extra gear. Hopefully you have some anti-e's and something for PCT too.

BTW...what are your stats?

peace,

Glock19
 
Glock19 said:
My first cycle was only 250mg Sust/wk, and I gained ~20lbs in 10 weeks. Personally, I think you would still see good results and probably gain 15-20 lbs. with what you have...if your diet is good and you bust ass. However, if you can resolve the problem w/ your order, why not wait and bump the test up? I am sure you are dying to start, but, maybe you should wait for your extra gear. Hopefully you have some anti-e's and something for PCT too.

BTW...what are your stats?

peace,

Glock19

6'1 193 11 percent body fat.
yea, what do u recommend i should take a week, i know if i was on the 500 mg sust and 300 mg deca. i would do 2 shots a week 150 deca and 250 sust 2 each shot, but only having sust 250 x1 and deca 300 mg x1.. not sur ewhat to take
 
rob3412 said:
6'1 193 11 percent body fat.
yea, what do u recommend i should take a week, i know if i was on the 500 mg sust and 300 mg deca. i would do 2 shots a week 150 deca and 250 sust 2 each shot, but only having sust 250 x1 and deca 300 mg x1.. not sur ewhat to take

I would wait for the extra test bro, and do it like you said. You don't want to "settle" for something and then think to yourself..."what if I would have taken 500mg"...you know?

What is your reasoning behind not getting the extra test? With your frame, you would blow up like an SOB if you waited, trained hard, and ate right. Also, remember...this is a huge commitment you making for yourself...don't take it for granted. Make sure you have everything you need and get after it. And, make sure you are getting proper rest too.

Do you have any anti e's? What about clomid for PCT?
 
Glock19 said:
I would wait for the extra test bro, and do it like you said. You don't want to "settle" for something and then think to yourself..."what if I would have taken 500mg"...you know?

What is your reasoning behind not getting the extra test? With your frame, you would blow up like an SOB if you waited, trained hard, and ate right. Also, remember...this is a huge commitment you making for yourself...don't take it for granted. Make sure you have everything you need and get after it. And, make sure you are getting proper rest too.

Do you have any anti e's? What about clomid for PCT?
yea im ordering my pct stuff today, clomid,nolva, and hcg
 
rob3412 said:
yea im ordering my pct stuff today, clomid,nolva, and hcg

Good. Never start w/o everything. I forgot to ask...how old are you and how long have you been training for?
 
im 20 going on 21 (yea i know young) made a thread about taht , but ive made my mind up and once i do that its hard to change it. anyways ive been lifting seriously for about almost 3 years now. i went from 160 to 193. ive been liftint total for about 7 years but not hardcore only for past 3 years.
 
yeah some more info would help....

but from the info i do have, 250mg ew is too low of an amount...i wouldnt go lower then 400mg of test ew...with 250mg youll get shut down, and wont really benefit that much from the test....and i def would never do more deca then test, unless you want to find out what deca dick is.....!

what i would do is, wait until u have more sust, and do 500mg ew and 300-400mg of deca ew....i dont like sust, since it has fast acting esters in it, to me it should be done atleast 3times per week, which many wont want to do...im at a point where i use prop ,susp, winny, etc...which are all fast acting, so many shots bother me very little now a days...
with the sust, i would front load 1000mg the 1st week, and then 500mg ew for 10 weeks, no need to front load the deca.....

you also asked what you could expect to gain,,,,now thats something only God could answer....even with a good diet, and routine, you are not promised to gain a whole lot....i gain mass just looking at dumbbells....but thats just me, i know guys that lift with all they have, all the time 100%, and cant gain size for anything in the world....so for me, 500mg ew of test, ill gain easily 15-20lbs in 10 weeks....but you may only see 10lbs....still great, because the avg man gains about 5lbs a yeah with training, so even 5lbs of mass in 10weeks is very good,.....

this is ur 1st cycle, this will be your greatest cycle ever, so dont screw it up, with low dosages, or with poor eating.....
if u want to bulk up, eat everything in sight, and i mean everything, this will def help you get the most out of ur cycle......

and wait for all ur gear to be in hand....i would even add some dbol, and do the classic,,,dbol, test, deca cycle......but thats just what i would recomend....
be safe, do things thinking of your health 1st, and youll be fine.....LP
 
bro ur man and ull do what you want,....but i would wait another year atleast..but again thats just me,,...so if you have ur mind made up, be careful, and like i said, put your health 1st.....!!!!!! LP
 
rob3412 said:
im 20 going on 21 (yea i know young) made a thread about taht , but ive made my mind up and once i do that its hard to change it. anyways ive been lifting seriously for about almost 3 years now. i went from 160 to 193. ive been liftint total for about 7 years but not hardcore only for past 3 years.

I understand bro. But, I would def. bump the test up to 500mg. I have never run more deca than test in a cycle, and, would not recommend it. I know you are eager to begin, but you need to seriously consider getting some more test. Is it a money issue that is causing you not to order more??? If so, there are plenty of sources out there with great deals on Sus. What kind of sus are you planning to take?
 
Glock19 said:
I understand bro. But, I would def. bump the test up to 500mg. I have never run more deca than test in a cycle, and, would not recommend it. I know you are eager to begin, but you need to seriously consider getting some more test. Is it a money issue that is causing you not to order more??? If so, there are plenty of sources out there with great deals on Sus. What kind of sus are you planning to take?
nah its the person i got my test from .. messed up my order... i paid for x2 test but he only gave me x1.. and says i gotta wait till my next order and says 250 is fine, but i disagree... im gonna give a talk to him i mean.. i didi pay for 500 mg test so i think i should get it...
 
rob3412 said:
nah its the person i got my test from .. messed up my order... i paid for x2 test but he only gave me x1.. and says i gotta wait till my next order and says 250 is fine, but i disagree... im gonna give a talk to him i mean.. i didi pay for 500 mg test so i think i should get it...

That is bullshit bro. I would demand that he gave me my shit! Is this a known source, or one of your buddies? What brand of Sus did you order?
 
Glock19 said:
That is bullshit bro. I would demand that he gave me my shit! Is this a known source, or one of your buddies? What brand of Sus did you order?
known source, but im not gonna give out his name... he has helped me alot and actually gave me a good price.. but the point was we agreed on a price for a product and i didnt recieved the product. Super Test 250 250mg/10ml (sust blend) Tornel
 
rob3412 said:
known source, but im not gonna give out his name... he has helped me alot and actually gave me a good price.. but the point was we agreed on a price for a product and i didnt recieved the product. Super Test 250 250mg/10ml (sust blend) Tornel

I still think that is bullshit! I understand that sources are human and mess orders up sometimes, but, if you paid the man for a product and he didn't send you everything, then he should send the rest. That is just bad business bro. And to make things worse...he tells you he won't send you the rest of the order until the next time??? I have a few Golden Triangle bottles of Sus I can help you out for cheap if you are interested.
 
Glock19 said:
I still think that is bullshit! I understand that sources are human and mess orders up sometimes, but, if you paid the man for a product and he didn't send you everything, then he should send the rest. That is just bad business bro. And to make things worse...he tells you he won't send you the rest of the order until the next time??? I have a few Golden Triangle bottles of Sus I can help you out for cheap if you are interested.
doesnt matter the missed email explaied everything it was my fault i guess for not being able to see the email. either way ill be on 500 mg sust thanks guys
 
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