GE-TM E-Meth "Primo"

[fit2beking]

As a "veteran" and a rep for a BioLogics with all due respect Stretch has a vested interest and an ulterior motive in posting a "GETM review".

Placing him in this untenable position is not a wise decision, IMO.

Big Ben or MANDs are GTG IMO.

I don't know if he has an ulterior motive or not. I would like to think not. If the results came back GTG would you still thnk this? I think that answer would be No. Now if they didn't I can see how this can be an issue. And one could say that he may have alterior motives. Let's let it play out and see what happens.

 

[fit2beking]

I don't appreciate the assertion that my results would be tainted by personal financial interests.

Even if you are correct in your statement that the bunk products came from a reseller, that does nothing to change the responsibility of Ge-TM. You even stated that biologic should be responsible to Herc's customers, when Herc was NOT selling biologic gear. The difference is glaring.

I agree 100% it is GE TM responsibility.

 

[Stretch]

I don't know if he has an ulterior motive or not. I would like to think not. If the results came back GTG would you still thnk this? I think that answer would be No. Now if they didn't I can see how this can be an issue. And one could say that he may have alterior motives. Let's let it play out and see what happens.

My post history clearly shows that I hate Ge-Tm. I have discussed this privately with numerous members, and they will all tell you that I clearly state; I have no reason not to like them, I just don't.

If I wanted to bury Ge-Tm dishonestly it would be easy. I have all the equipment, and the connections, necessary to revial whatever I wanted into Ge-Tm vials. I would vial up an eyelash take a pic and circulate it. Repeat that process with several different particulate items over the span of 6 months and Ge-Tm is no more. At least not on Meso.

Point is, if I wanted to discredit Ge- Tm by any means necessary, there are more efficient, and more certain ways of doing so.

So now, I am going to attack this a different way. Watch this. If you liked Ge-TM and they are selling crap gear, you are gonna hate that Jim questioned my motives.

Now I am going to buy 5 vials. I need 5 voluteers to help test this source. The 5 voluteers will recieve a vial of Primo direct from Ge-Tm. I will pay for it. The volunteers must get 2 rounds of blood-work, so its going to cost you guys too.

Will these results also be questioned?

 

[Dr JIM]

Of course it's GETMs responsibility AND I've no doubt David will make amends for any errors which occurred on his behalf but your comparing apples to oranges Stretch.

GETM IS YOUR COMPETITOR and as a REP for Biologic on MESO any review will be looked upon with a specter of suspicion.

(And it matters not if said review was good or bad)

Your a REP FELLA!!!!

Why can't you see that I have no idea!

 

[Stretch]

Of course it's GETMs responsibility AND I've no doubt David will make amends for any errors which occurred on his behalf but your comparing apples to oranges Stretch.

GETM IS YOUR COMPETITOR and as a REP for Biologic on MESO any review will be looked upon with a specter of suspicion.

(And it matters not if said review was good or bad)

Your a REP FELLA!!!!

Why can't you see that I have no idea!

I'm a man with integrity who happens to be a Rep. I was a member here for years. I've repped for 7 months now. I could have done the test how I originally wanted to and a large group of people would have looked at the results as valid. Now, thanks to you, I am going to go about it in a different way.

 

[fit2beking]

My post history clearly shows that I hate Ge-Tm. I have discussed this privately with numerous members, and they will all tell you that I clearly state; I have no reason not to like them, I just don't.

If I wanted to bury Ge-Tm dishonestly it would be easy. I have all the equipment, and the connections, necessary to revial whatever I wanted into Ge-Tm vials. I would vial up an eyelash take a pic and circulate it. Repeat that process with several different particulate items over the span of 6 months and Ge-Tm is no more. At least not on Meso.

Point is, if I wanted to discredit Ge- Tm by any means necessary, there are more efficient, and more certain ways of doing so.

So now, I am going to attack this a different way. Watch this. If you liked Ge-TM and they are selling crap gear, you are gonna hate that Jim questioned my motives.

Now I am going to buy 5 vials. I need 5 voluteers to help test this source. The 5 voluteers will recieve a vial of Primo direct from Ge-Tm. I will pay for it. The volunteers must get 2 rounds of blood-work, so its going to cost you guys too.

Will these results also be questioned?

Well there it is! Any takers?

 

[Stretch]

Well there it is! Any takers?

I need 5 and remember to qualify you have to be off of gear right now and able to get precycle bloods to provide a base-line. Then get on cycle bloods, while running primo with nothing else.

Mands is out because of TRT
Ben is out because he never comes off gear.

We need normal people. Guys who have been here for awhile, (for trust) but at the same time, guys who don't live on gear year round.

 

[fit2beking]

I need 5 and remember to qualify you have to be off of gear right now and able to get precycle bloods to provide a base-line. Then get on cycle bloods, while running primo with nothing else.

Mands is out because of TRT
Ben is out because he never comes off gear.

We need normal people. Guys who have been here for awhile, (for trust) but at the same time, guys who don't live on gear year round.

I am out too. I am TRT....Come on guys jump on this please!

 

[kawilt]

How long would you have had to be off the gear?

 

[Dr JIM]

Come on Stretch do you honestly want others, of sound mind and body, to believe a LEAD REP for Biologic is best suited to lead this prove (GETM is GTG or not) CRUSADE?

Do what you wish fella goodness!

 

[Stretch]

Come on Stretch do you honestly want others, of sound mind and body, to believe a LEAD REP for Biologic is best suited to lead this prove (GETM is GTG or not) CRUSADE?

Do what you wish fella goodness!

An honest man is perfect to lead a crusade to determine the veracity of someone else. As I said Jim. The volunteers will order, then forward me payment instructions, and I will pay. That's my only role. Organization and finance. I have no control over the outcomes, so why does my relationship with Biologic even matter.

I understand your point Jim. Completely. Seriously. I know that people on the outside would be like:

WTF You guys trust a rep for a competitor to organize a test to determine the validity of a competing source?

But I don't give a fuck about appearances, I care about the truth and what's really going on. Sure some naysayers will talk shit. I don't care about those that don't know me.

Do YOU believe I would purpose alter the results of any test in order for financial gain?

 

[Stretch]

How long would you have had to be off the gear?

Long enough to provide blood work which shows that you are completely free of any suppression on the HPTA, since suppression of the HPTA yielding lowered TT results will be what we are looking at to determine validity of the PRIMO. It's an imperfect testing method, since if they are using EQ it would show up exactly the same as PRIMO would in our tests.

 

[kawilt]

Let me know what blood work to ask for. I'm going to have some done this Thursday.

I have to log out. Will check in the morning......

 

[prnscrn]

Well there it is! Any takers?

I think all the experimental lab rats have moved all the way to the other side of the cage!!!

 

[bickel29]

It is going to be difficult to find the test subjects for the following reasons:

--the necessary pre-reqs are going to eliminate most of the trustworthy candidates

--there is a definite opportunity cost involved to step up and do this - anyone who already had a cycle planned would have to put that cycle on hold to participate in this.

I hope we find the participants, though, this is quite interesting.

How many weeks do you think that someone who meets the pre-reqs would have to run this?

 

[Stretch]

It is going to be difficult to find the test subjects for the following reasons:

--the necessary pre-reqs are going to eliminate most of the trustworthy candidates

--there is a definite opportunity cost involved to step up and do this - anyone who already had a cycle planned would have to put that cycle on hold to participate in this.

I hope we find the participants, though, this is quite interesting.

How many weeks do you think that someone who meets the pre-reqs would have to run this?

4 weeks.

If no one steps up that shows how 'tight knit' of a community we really have.

I'm volunteering to drop almost $400 to see the truth come out.

 

[1forthegeeks]

Awe man I haven't been following this thread. I just started a week ago.

Good luck I hope someone jumps in there!

 

[shamrockbear1]

Okay I have to come to GE-TM defense here I placed numerous orders and spent some serious bacon more than most guys peroid over 5 years, with them both Pharma grade and there own product. The Pharma grade has to be the best I have seen in the game no bull good prices everything properly package and checks out period! Secondly, their product to my knowledge from what I have used has been good yes it's not Pharma grade it's a ugl but if they operate anything like I have seen I trust them period. I have spend upwards of 5k so if you want me to say there legit, I back them 110 percent this doesn't mean things can't change but in my book they have been amazing, so please let's stop these pathetic 2 post guys claiming they got scammed ... Let's move it along to more pressing issues like training ect... If you would like me to list everything I have gotten I will but the GH alone was awesome yes expensive but real Pharma grade that I have not seen anyone match.

 

[Mckenna2006]

X2 for me as well, Ge-tm one of the best!

 

[Stretch]

Okay I have to come to GE-TM defense here I placed numerous orders and spent some serious bacon more than most guys peroid over 5 years, with them both Pharma grade and there own product. The Pharma grade has to be the best I have seen in the game no bull good prices everything properly package and checks out period! Secondly, their product to my knowledge from what I have used has been good yes it's not Pharma grade it's a ugl but if they operate anything like I have seen I trust them period. I have spend upwards of 5k so if you want me to say there legit, I back them 110 percent this doesn't mean things can't change but in my book they have been amazing, so please let's stop these pathetic 2 post guys claiming they got scammed ... Let's move it along to more pressing issues like training ect... If you would like me to list everything I have gotten I will but the GH alone was awesome yes expensive but real Pharma grade that I have not seen anyone match.

So it's okay if they sell fake UGL primo. As long as the HG line is g2g??

Sounds logical to me.