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Many of you lied about "exit scams", seeking to stir up anxiety among current customers and scare off future ones.

Stirring baseless discontent as a form of entertainment and clout seeking is a disturbing pattern coming from a couple of members,

Since we're on a quest for transparency, I may decide to follow you around, posting quotes demonstrating to all what negative influences you are here at MESO. Perhaps it's something the administration should take up.

Why don't you harm reduction warriors take your zeal over there as well?

Go for it.
We are interested
 
Price gouging is considered anti-social behavior across the civilized world. Especially when a seller who makes big claims about his customer service engages in it so blatantly. And then makes up BS excuses for why it was absolutely necessary. When none of the other sources seem to consider it necessary.
Hmm.

I guess my view of an illicit black market is different than other folks. I fully expect sources to charge as much as the market will allow. I expect them to act as rational profit maximizing individuals and adjust based on market conditions.

If none of the other sources deem it necessary, GA will end up pricing himself out if he doesn’t adjust. Unless the market believes he offers something worth paying a premium for.

Said otherwise, the market will speak and he will adjust or die.
 
QSC and others stopped selling oils. Not likely as a way to provide you with a better bargain in the future, but to see where prices go and not sell remaining stock too inexpensively.

Many of you lied about "exit scams", seeking to stir up anxiety among current customers and scare off future ones.

Stirring baseless discontent as a form of entertainment and clout seeking is a disturbing pattern coming from a couple of members,

Since we're on a quest for transparency, I may decide to follow you around, posting quotes demonstrating to all what negative influences you are here at MESO. Perhaps it's something the administration should take up.

Let's try and have some intellectual honesty here. This mass psychosis is a sight to behold. A real mob mentality led by people, some who have never been customers, seeking attention for themselves.

Q now has multiple reports of mislabeled, and unlabeled products. That sounds like it could lead to serious problems for members.

Why don't you harm reduction warriors take your zeal over there as well?

Because you know you'll get your asses handed to you (again) and don't have the guts you pretend to here.

GA, in the future bag your domestic oils, post updates regarding delays and close each with a date when the next update will follow to reassure buyers. Problems solved.

For those who don't like the prices, shop elsewhere. GA will either lose sales and rethink the prices, or the market will decide it's worth it and buy from him.

GA has been a good source, treated MESO members well, and earned respect over a long period of time. While every source must be held to high standards and correct mistakes, there's no reason to be targeted for destruction like this, especially when compared to other sources here, who haven't been nearly the good neighbor GA has.
thank you!!! couldnt been explained better!

be careful though now they would attack you.
 
Price gouging is considered anti-social behavior across the civilized world. Especially when a seller who makes big claims about his customer service engages in it so blatantly. And then makes up BS excuses for why it was absolutely necessary. When none of the other sources seem to consider it necessary.
You are the one that spreads lie and false information mate. My customer service is on point and we do still strive to give the best customer service out there. Your just upset about an price increase. People running out of stock, no raws = no production . price will increase expect it to happen it is sooner than you think, we not the only one who increase our prices!

Yes there have been issues recently, just an bad period of timing where all happened to be at once.

1. China raw issue, massive arrests -
2. US election
3. Black november
4. Big volume of packages from china that is going out.
5. These 2 months is one of the most busiest months for the postal offices, so delay may appear! Be aware of that.

6. We have not let one of our not receive their order yet. So you here complaining about price and keep providing false information dont make it bette.
 
QSC and others stopped selling oils. Not likely as a way to provide you with a better bargain in the future, but to see where prices go and not sell remaining stock too inexpensively.

Many of you lied about "exit scams", seeking to stir up anxiety among current customers and scare off future ones.

Stirring baseless discontent as a form of entertainment and clout seeking is a disturbing pattern coming from a couple of members,

Since we're on a quest for transparency, I may decide to follow you around, posting quotes demonstrating to all what negative influences you are here at MESO. Perhaps it's something the administration should take up.

Let's try and have some intellectual honesty here. This mass psychosis is a sight to behold. A real mob mentality led by people, some who have never been customers, seeking attention for themselves.

Q now has multiple reports of mislabeled, and unlabeled products. That sounds like it could lead to serious problems for members.

Why don't you harm reduction warriors take your zeal over there as well?

Because you know you'll get your asses handed to you (again) and don't have the guts you pretend to here.

GA, in the future bag your domestic oils, post updates regarding delays and close each with a date when the next update will follow to reassure buyers. Problems solved.

For those who don't like the prices, shop elsewhere. GA will either lose sales and rethink the prices, or the market will decide it's worth it and buy from him.

GA has been a good source, treated MESO members well, and earned respect over a long period of time. While every source must be held to high standards and correct mistakes, there's no reason to be targeted for destruction like this, especially when compared to other sources here, who haven't been nearly the good neighbor GA has.
Are you dumb? Calling out the warning signs of an exit scam does not constitute lying when it turns out not to materialize. Most packs were showing as never leaving China, and no touchdowns happened for a long time.

The source claimed there was nothing to worry about, when now he admits that reships are needed in many cases. So concern about packs not going out was justified, especially when considering the events in China along with the source's erratic behavior at the time.
 
Who was it that increased prices and for what?
I did increase my prices, so did others. Understandable, supply and demand. no raws - no production - no stock , surviving mode at the moment until the raw shortages is gone.

if back to normal we will of course adjust our prices to normal but for the time being now sorry.
 
Are you dumb? Calling out the warning signs of an exit scam does not constitute lying when it turns out not to materialize. Most packs were showing as never leaving China, and no touchdowns happened for a long time.

The source claimed there was nothing to worry about, when now he admits that reships are needed in many cases. So concern about packs not going out was justified, especially when considering the events in China along with the source's erratic behavior at the time.
If you look back in the very early stage of this, you will see that i made an announcement about the upcoming delay of shipping from China and that orders from 25th october till 5th november would be sent an week later as the raw issue in China was very new and no one could send orders out plus the US election and black november added into this make it more delayed.

who the hell will make an exit scam and increase their prices?
 
Are you dumb? Calling out the warning signs of an exit scam does not constitute lying when it turns out not to materialize. Most packs were showing as never leaving China, and no touchdowns happened for a long time.

The source claimed there was nothing to worry about, when now he admits that reships are needed in many cases. So concern about packs not going out was justified, especially when considering the events in China along with the source's erratic behavior at the time.
Not to mention, we have at least one report of the supposed reship using the same tracking. Meaning the pack was never shipped to begin with.
 
Hello guys,

We see a that orders is started to move, which is excellent. A lot of reship tracks have been provided so far, if you haven't received one reship track please email Jennifer. Only for the remaining ones that havent updated.

Thank you.
 
You are the one that spreads lie and false information mate. My customer service is on point and we do still strive to give the best customer service out there. Your just upset about an price increase. People running out of stock, no raws = no production . price will increase expect it to happen it is sooner than you think, we not the only one who increase our prices!
My statements were accurate, see below. Other sources did not increase their prices, except for a tiny ~10% increase on two of the products of one of the sources. Nothing comparable to what you did.

You are the one who is lying to cover his ass. Just own up to your greedy behavior and I won't see the need to call out your weaselly lies.



Technically QSC only postponed for the next few days while they figure out their current stocks and don't oversell. Intl prices have not gone up. I haven't looked at their domestic prices yet. SSA is indeed back to oils and tabs and prices are the same except a slight increase on test E. SRY is back to oils and tabs no price increase. HYB is selling oils and tabs no price increase.
 
Not to mention, we have at least one report of the supposed reship using the same tracking. Meaning the pack was never shipped to begin with.
i would like to see evidence of that lol. if thats correct i will have jennifer apologize here.

if you get an tracking number, then expect it to be shipped out. we dont keep your orders lol.
 
My statements were accurate, see below. Other sources did not increase their prices, except for a tiny ~10% increase on two of the products of one of the sources. Nothing comparable to what you did.

You are the one who is lying to cover his ass. Just own up to your greedy behavior and I won't see the need to call out your weaselly lies.
yes i did increase my prices i am not denying that either.

supply and demand.

no raws = no production
current stock = not knowing when restock will happen
last stock = who knows?

will prices be adjusted back to normal? that will time show.
 
Are you dumb? Calling out the warning signs of an exit scam does not constitute lying when it turns out not to materialize. Most packs were showing as never leaving China, and no touchdowns happened for a long time.

The source claimed there was nothing to worry about, when now he admits that reships are needed in many cases. So concern about packs not going out was justified, especially when considering the events in China along with the source's erratic behavior at the time.
There were a host of folks screaming exit scam. Not calling out warning signs. Legitimately screaming exit scam.

GA let people know there would be a shipping delay between certain dates. Everyone knew there was shit going down in China.

GA wasn't the only source who has had shipping issues. Basically every Chinese source has had instances of shipping issues during that time period.

This is fucking witch hunt it's ridiculous.
 
Hmm.

I guess my view of an illicit black market is different than other folks. I fully expect sources to charge as much as the market will allow. I expect them to act as rational profit maximizing individuals and adjust based on market conditions.

If none of the other sources deem it necessary, GA will end up pricing himself out if he doesn’t adjust. Unless the market believes he offers something worth paying a premium for.

Said otherwise, the market will speak and he will adjust or die.
i dont see anything wrong with any sources titrating prices to meet supply/demand.


Holy shit this thread is fucking insufferable. My god. Some of y'all are the biggest fucking crybabies and drama instigators it's unbelievable.

Let's focus on the fucking important shit, yea?

1) Better shipping packaging; containment so if a vial breaks, box doesn't get wet.
agreed, this is my only gripe right now, ive got a bunch more GA packs in the mail, I truly hope this leaking pack was a rarity. i dont really care about the long ship times, other vendors have easily surpassed month long ship times in the last 6 mos.
 
Fine I fucking deleted it. That retard pisses me off. Recommend fucking NAPS! Everyone know that shit is the worst to buy from and the history.
I agree with you. NAPS BLOWS. Not arguing about that at all.

There is just a certain level of trust implied in DMs and I feel that no matter tempers and anger, respect of that is important or it's lost forever.

Just my opinion. People can do as they please. Free world, free market, is what it is.
 
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