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Glad the host backed off the somewhat absurd "it's a panic engineered to boost sales. everything will quickly go back to normal" bullshit. Maybe it will, maybe it won't, but "stocking up" is just bringing forward purchases you'd make anyway, and act as "insurance" against supply disruptions. and/or price rises. He remembered 900% price rises after a widespread crackdown.

Of course some vendors have realized even in this environment, lower prices from their existing stock=taking sales from their higher priced competitors. Good old capitalism at work.
I did like the rationalizing on what is to be gained by causing a panic buy since no one will be left to buy your gear once they are stocked up.

To be honest, I'm more concerned about the crack down on small packages as a driving force behind "stocking up" from overseas sources.
 
My thoughts on the UGL space after watching a while.

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I did like the rationalizing on what is to be gained by causing a panic buy since no one will be left to buy your gear once they are stocked up.

To be honest, I'm more concerned about the crack down on small packages as a driving force behind "stocking up" from overseas sources.

I got a lot of "congratulations" for advising a stock up.

The truth Is I didn't foresee this move by the Chinese authorities. My entire premise is based on the impending de minimus crackdown. which is still ahead of us.

If the raws supply doesn't return to normal, the shipping crisis is going to be even more impactful to availability and prices.

A lot of people don't realize the shippers do not want UGL's business, and many "delayed" shipments are Chinese companies discovering this stuff being included with their legit cargo. which is responsible for 99.9% of their profits, returning the illicit stuff to China, and forcing the UGL to find another way to send it. It's happened to QSC several times, and I suspect what caused the issue with GA. QSC is relatively open about it. It happened to Dragon Pharma early in 2024 causing a multi month delay.
 
I had a colonoscopy and they gave me injectable benadryl and fentanyl. I asked the Doc "fentanyl, is this a homeless encampment or the hospital?" He laughed and said its for the discomfort. The benadryl almost knocked me out but once that fentanyl hit, I was bouncing off the walls (opioids get me wired). I now get the fentanyl crisis. When It was over, I realized I was standing in an ally behind Guadalupe's Taco Shop and Tito had a big ass smile.
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So you had two colonoscopies that day?
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I can’t wait to see when you have the epiphany

“I should homebrew”
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Then will start a lab, selling the purest oils out there at a premium;

Readalot spent months lurking on the UGL forums, watching disaster after disaster unfold. Contaminated oils, botched batches, and labs that clearly didn’t care—it was a mess. As a guy with a chemistry background and a knack for doing things right, he couldn’t stand it anymore. One night, after reading another story about an infection from dirty gear, he thought, screw this, I’ll do it myself.

He started small, brewing for himself in a spotless home lab, using pharmaceutical-grade materials and sterile techniques. When he shared his process online, people noticed. They started asking questions, then asking for his oils. That’s when “Asepticus Labs” was born—a no-nonsense operation built on quality and a quiet vendetta against the careless labs he’d seen dominate the forums for too long.

My little short story for you @readalot

Readalot after he makes millions:
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Then will start a lab, selling the purest oils out there at a premium;

Readalot spent months lurking on the UGL forums, watching disaster after disaster unfold. Contaminated oils, botched batches, and labs that clearly didn’t care—it was a mess. As a guy with a chemistry background and a knack for doing things right, he couldn’t stand it anymore. One night, after reading another story about an infection from dirty gear, he thought, screw this, I’ll do it myself.

He started small, brewing for himself in a spotless home lab, using pharmaceutical-grade materials and sterile techniques. When he shared his process online, people noticed. They started asking questions, then asking for his oils. That’s when “Asepticus Labs” was born—a no-nonsense operation built on quality and a quiet vendetta against the careless labs he’d seen dominate the forums for too long.

My little short story for you @readalot

Readalot after he makes millions:
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now that little bit at the end had me"Rolllin" a hardy laugh indeed
 
Finally got a package from this vendor yesterday - 18 days from tracking number sent. Vials on that thin plastic holder that's open on one side, packaged in one bubble envelope inside another bubble envelope. Vials were very clearly labeled individually. Return address screamed sus. Overall I'm giving this a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 35 usd for barebones slow-ish shipping is :/
 
Finally got a package from this vendor yesterday - 18 days from tracking number sent. Vials on that thin plastic holder that's open on one side, packaged in one bubble envelope inside another bubble envelope. Vials were very clearly labeled individually. Return address screamed sus. Overall I'm giving this a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 35 usd for barebones slow-ish shipping is :/
it is actually fast delivery time considered it is international and the time period we in :) enjoy your order
 
Finally got a package from this vendor yesterday - 18 days from tracking number sent. Vials on that thin plastic holder that's open on one side, packaged in one bubble envelope inside another bubble envelope. Vials were very clearly labeled individually. Return address screamed sus. Overall I'm giving this a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 35 usd for barebones slow-ish shipping is :/
18 days coming from China it's fast, it's not amazon you have to dose
 
There will ALWAYS be ways for drug traffickers to facilitate their transportation of goods. That will never stop no matter what the government does or doesn’t do. If there is a demand there will be a supply. It won’t stop and if you believe the government can or will stop it, You should look at the last 60+ years of history. Technology to stop drug trafficking has greatly improved, Yet drug trafficking is at a historic high. The USA of all places is one of the few first world countries to have extremely lax enforcement on prohibited imports. Pretty much every vendor offers free reships to USA and has high clearance rates, I wonder why?

All of you panicked over nothing and ofc when you have panic buying there is shortages, Just like toilet paper. What do you think during covid trees stopped growing? The shortages were manufactured by the MSM making people panic. Just like how they were manufactured here.
 
There will ALWAYS be ways for drug traffickers to facilitate their transportation of goods. That will never stop no matter what the government does or doesn’t do. If there is a demand there will be a supply. It won’t stop and if you believe the government can or will stop it, You should look at the last 60+ years of history. Technology to stop drug trafficking has greatly improved, Yet drug trafficking is at a historic high. The USA of all places is one of the few first world countries to have extremely lax enforcement on prohibited imports. Pretty much every vendor offers free reships to USA and has high clearance rates, I wonder why?

All of you panicked over nothing and ofc when you have panic buying there is shortages, Just like toilet paper. What do you think during covid trees stopped growing? The shortages were manufactured by the MSM making people panic. Just like how they were manufactured here.

No one is saying they'll be unavailable.

Cocaine gets in. For $15,000 a kilo.

When they have to smuggle AAS the way they smuggle other drugs, and not just mail them directly from China like can be done now, prices aren't going to be as low, and odds are, the selection won't be as good as it is right now.

What's going on with raws isn't a manufactured conspiracy to raise prices, and no one knows when China will say "it's ok to make these illegal drugs and sell them to the US" again, or for someone else to start making them.

Buying what you'd buy anyway, while it's cheap and plentiful, doesn't hurt you. It's always a good idea to be prepared for a supply interruption anyway, it has happened many times in the past.

Would hate to be a Primo buyer right now.
 
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No one is saying they'll be unavailable.

Cocaine gets in. For $15,000 a kilo.

When they have to smuggle AAS the way they smuggle other drugs, and not just mail them directly from China like can be done now, the prices aren't going to be as low, and odds are, the selection won't be as good as it is right now.
I don’t think comparing the price of cocaine and the price of testosterone is a good comparison for how much prices will go up once it enters the USA. I’ve said it once before and it is the truth, Food is the most expensive tool among bodybuilders and powerlifters and it always will be. If a vial of testosterone quadruples, it will still be food that is the most expensive part of the life style. A $160 vial of testosterone will last most at least 14 weeks for TRT. That’s $11 a week, I spend more than that on a single meal most days.

We have seen how supply chains can be disrupted and those without livestock are powerless to evade it. There are many things people should be concerned about in the foreseeable future, A lack of drugs is not even on my list.


You got a farm/land? You got a rifle? Then you have a future without dependency on anyone.
 
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He started small, brewing for himself in a spotless home lab, using pharmaceutical-grade materials and sterile techniques. When he shared his process online, people noticed. They started asking questions, then asking for his oils. That’s when “Asepticus Labs” was born—a no-nonsense operation built on quality and a quiet vendetta against the careless labs he’d seen dominate the forums for too long.
In my Readalot-turns-steroid-dealer fantasies, he's more like Walter White from Breaking Bad, coming after all these clowns and delivering vengeance.

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All of you panicked over nonothing
Honestly, I hope you're right bro. But, I wouldn't want to get caught with my pants down.
The shortages were manufactured by the MSM making people panic. Just like how they were manufactured here.
I only disagree with you here bro... MSM had nothing to do with panic buying TP. Have you ever seen the movie Contagion? Those who saw the movie sparked those shortages. How many millions of people saw it back in 2011 and onward?
 
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