GH and IGF levels weird

[Jimmyhoffa59]

so i was running MS blue tops GH..for a few weeks at 4iu a day..I stopped for 2 days and had my blood drawn for labs @THE VA for my endocrinologist..I stopped because I'm hoping to get on pharma GH.
I can't post my results yet but over the phone my RN said my GH levels were almost undetectable like .012 some shit...but my IGF levels were super high like 450 or some craziness...

How is that possible? What does that mean? Thanks for your input.

 

[mghoward74]

When you find out lmk, cause I'm going to the same thing at my VA

 

[kawilt]

This is interesting! Why hasn't somebody done this before? Getting both tests done instead of just the Igf-1 or serum? Has anybody seen a HGH test on Privatemedlabs?

 

[dmt31]

This is interesting! Why hasn't somebody done this before? Getting both tests done instead of just the Igf-1 or serum? Has anybody seen a HGH test on Privatemedlabs?

yeah they have a gh serum test, i've taken two of them. the igf test is like 3 times as expensive.

 

[dmt31]

so i was running MS blue tops GH..for a few weeks at 4iu a day..I stopped for 2 days and had my blood drawn for labs @THE VA for my endocrinologist..I stopped because I'm hoping to get on pharma GH.
I can't post my results yet but over the phone my RN said my GH levels were almost undetectable like .012 some shit...but my IGF levels were super high like 450 or some craziness...

How is that possible? What does that mean? Thanks for your input.

you had stopped, therefore you wouldn't show up with much serum gh at all if any, that shouldn't be a surprise. basic protocol for gh serum test is to take 10iu IM 3 hours prior to blood draw.

oh, and mike is just reselling chinese generic kefei's, you can get the same product (Probably same source quite frankly) directly from HGHpower for a third of the price.

 

[kawilt]

It is said the GH serum test can be effected by some peptides and the Igf-1 level test is a better gage.

 

[dmt31]

It is said the GH serum test can be effected by some peptides and the Igf-1 level test is a better gage.

igf can be effected by some pep's as well. they both have their flaws. without a baseline to know what your igf was before, then it's hard to tell. I have also read that igf levels can be effected by certain AAS. I have no idea how accurate that is but i can try to find the article.

that said, in the end GH would need proper ms/hplc to determine its validity, even more so than AAS does. i usually get a serum test first, as it is easy to get, quick, and cheap. if the serum test comes back good, i then go get an igf test to see if i am at teh very least reasonably above the natural high end of the range. at that point, i'm pretty satisfied if they both come back good, but you still never know quite frankly.

to get a more accurate igf reading as well, you need to be only for several weeks to allow the gh to build up in your system and build up your igf. again, aas, if you're on cycle or even on trt can apparently elevate igf as well. so everything has to be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[hotdog23]

so i was running MS blue tops GH..for a few weeks at 4iu a day..I stopped for 2 days and had my blood drawn for labs @THE VA for my endocrinologist..I stopped because I'm hoping to get on pharma GH.
I can't post my results yet but over the phone my RN said my GH levels were almost undetectable like .012 some shit...but my IGF levels were super high like 450 or some craziness...

How is that possible? What does that mean? Thanks for your input.

It means you have some fire ass generics. GH has a half life of like 6 hours.... So if you stopped two days before you would have NONE in your system

Now IGF levels do not return to baseline for weeks after GH use is stopped. Most of growth hormones effects are mediated by the increase in insulin like growth factor

These are good things... Very very good

 

[hotdog23]

It is said the GH serum test can be effected by some peptides and the Igf-1 level test is a better gage.

GH serum cannot. IGF can. The only pep that can elevate IGF like this is cjc DAC , but in this case it would also show up on his serum as it raises GH trough levels, he would have a serum much higher than he did. And IME you KNOW when u inject DAC , the ghrh preps I've tried are unmistakeable upon inject

 

[hotdog23]

BUMP for all the generic haters


But srsly 90% is junk but there is some good shit out.. Decent*** shit out

Edit: 95%

 

[Jimmyhoffa59]

Well I have another 100iu of the same shit left if someone can make an offer, I'll accept Bitcoin.

 

[hotdog23]

Well I have another 100iu of the same shit left if someone can make an offer, I'll accept Bitcoin.

Why don't you want it... ?

 

[Jimmyhoffa59]

I ran out of money to buy a full six months worth, Mike Strong sucks dick, im going to get on pharma from my endocrinologist. I even have sealed packs of slin pins to send with it.